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    kakashi and gai> any of 5 kages READ READ READ READ READ READ please

    I'm not saying they beat all of them in 1v1. i'm saying, kakashi is higher in the top than any kage, and that gai is higher in the top that any kage.

    So, i'm saying, in a 1v1 raikage vs kakashi, kakashi looses, BUT, if you rank them, kakashi is higher in the top.

    Gai looses in a 1v1 against gaara, BUT, if you rank them, gai is higher in the top.

    Look how they're fighting obito, madara and the juubi (jubii = 100 PS and 10000 mokuton susano clones)
    They have proven to be very strong (both kage material)

    So my top list would be:

    1-Kabuto (with edo tensei)
    2- Edo madara
    3- Obito
    4- Hashirama
    5- Nagato
    6- Naruto
    7- Sasuke
    8- Itachi
    9- Minato
    10- Bee
    11- Orochomaru
    12- Kakashi
    13- Gai
    14 -3rd raikage
    15- A

    iF we're saying that A is the strongest kage, (IMO he is) , then if kakashi and gai are higher than him in the top, then they're higher than all of the current kages
     
         

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    Ofc, agreed
     
         

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    No
     
         

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    Re: kakashi and gai> any of 5 kages READ READ READ READ READ READ please

    Gai over 3rd Raikage? Are you crazy?
     
         

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    Re: kakashi and gai> any of 5 kages READ READ READ READ READ READ please

    Gai loses against Gaara? What?
     
         

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    Re: kakashi and gai> any of 5 kages READ READ READ READ READ READ please

    juubi=100 ps no juubi=10 ps since its only ten bijuu also no that top ten is hidious but i agree with every thing else this is a top 10

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    1. Uchiha Madara



    Make no mistake, there is only one other true Rikudō beside the original Sage, and that man is Uchiha Madara. He is the only other to awaken the Rinnegan. Similarly, no other individual has amassed the raw knowledge that Madara has collected. He is arrogant, however, like Orochimaru to an extent, but just like Orochimaru, he is a scientific genius. Most of the greatness surrounding the modern incarnation of the Rinnegan is, in fact, Madara's personal creation. The black rods used to control tailed beasts and Pain, the Gedō Mazō statue, and the Zetsu army that challenged the united world were all invented by Uchiha Madara. And while it is implied that Hashirama defeated Madara at the Valley of the End, it is also stated that his wife, Mito, helped control Kurama, and thus presumably turned the tides of battle at that point. However, even in a desolate situation, Madara manipulated the cirumcstances into taking his first steps toward godhood. Concurrently, Madara possesses in invincible, immortal body that replenishes his Hashirama-amounts of chakra at superhuman rates, allowing him to ceaselessly exercise the full power of the Senju, Uchiha, and Rikudō.
    2. Uzamaki Naruto


    Putting Kurama's full power into perspective is not easy. Hiruzen Sarutobi in his prime couldn't seem to injure Kurama with Konoha at his back. Minato ultimately died in order to counterbalance Kurama's overwhelming power. Nagato was having difficulty suppressing only eight of the nine tails in his ultimate jutsu, Chibaku Tensei. Kurama alone countered the bombs from five combined tailed beasts. And yet Naruto's power does not begin or end with Kurama, which is, incidentally, amplified by a perfect Jinchūriki channeling it into sophisticated ninjutsu. Naruto is also a perfect Sage and thus a master of the Senju power, who has also perfected the elemental Rasengan, the apex of spatial and elemental ninjutsu itself. He is an absurdly powerful individual, limited solely by his youth and brash nature.
    3. Uchiha Obito



    It was by mere chance that Obito came across Madara, but in him, Madara found a worthy apprentice, one that he taught nearly everything he knew, and entrusted with him all of his crafted tools. In Obito, Madara placed his absolute trust as a partner. The power of Hashirama flows through Obito's body and grants him prodigious, and nigh unlimited access to his Mangekyō, as well as the legendary Mokuton. Since then, Obito has meticulously added to Madara's armory by contracting the slaughter of the Uchiha clan and collecting dozens, if not hundreds, of Sharingan to be used for their own purposes. Aside from Madara, Obito is closest to achieving the individual power of the original Rikudō by demonstrating remarkable talent in Senju and Uchiha powers, as well as high degrees of intelligence in skill in various, if not all, ninja areas. With his second Edo Tensei version of Pain at his finger tips, and ultra-efficient Izanagi, Obito is an absolute beast to behold.
    4. Uzamaki Nagato


    Nagato was entrusted with Madara's eyes, and while not a genetic Rikudō himself, his bodily power seemed to rival that of Hashirama. Consequently, Madara's eyes have never seemed to exhaust Nagato like practically every other eye transplants seen in the manga. Unfortunately, it was the lack of genetic prerequisites that resulted in Nagato's weakness: he was horribly crippled after trying to access too much of Madara's power. Dozens of black rods were mercilessly impaled through Nagato's body, permanently impairing his ability to move in life, and forever emaciating him. However, seemingly after being unhooked from Gedō Mazō postmortem, Nagato was able to repair his body and absorb the chakra of a tailed beast. In that state, Nagato achieved power that could rival anybody on this list, given his decades of experience with the legendary Rinnegan, but a lifetime of being unable to move still presented an exploitable weakness to his defenses.
    5. Senju Hashirama



    You'll come to notice that most of the ninja above Hashirama have supplemented themselves with Hashirama's power. Incidentally, Hashirama is, in my opinion, the single strongest individual to ever exist (barring Rikudō) to rely on nothing but his own innate power. He is Superman. Implanting just a few of this man's cells has given ninja superhuman stamina and ability. His power is so overwhelming that he could bend tailed beasts to his will, and at one time had the majority of them under his control, similar to how Obito does in the modern day. Moreover, Hashirama was not just a hax meathead, but is implied to have been a devastatingly talented, diverse, and intelligent ninja, as he evidently invented and employed mass-genjutsu so powerful that it had left Sarutobi Hiruzen blind and helpless. Madara said that the Shodai Hokage was the only ninja that he had ever admired, and even to this day, Madara and the common people alike believe that only Hashirama could possibly challenge Madara's overwhelming dominance. Such was his legend, his power.
    6. Uchiha Sasuke


    Sasuke possesses extremely powerful illusions despite his specialty being ninjutsu, and he has demonstrated ridiculous versatility and inventiveness in his usage of Susano'o, Amaterasu, and raitons. Having created handfuls of A-ranked techniques, as well as an S-ranked technique, and developing unique spatial formations of Amaterasu, such as his Amaterasu orb and sword, Sasuke's creative genius is immense. Concurrently, I have him placed here (despite his arguably superior arsenal to those above him) because of the rage and pride that impairs his decisions in battle, but I suspect that he will soon shed his brashness, and return to the genius tactics and mindset employed by his Hebi incarnation now that he is finding peace with Itachi's deception.
    7. Yakushi Kabuto



    Kabuto once claimed that he was closer to the power of the Rikudō Sennin than anybody had ever been, and I believe him. In terms of knowledge and fighting power, Uchiha Madara and dozens of others on this list were his loyal soldiers before his Edo Tensei was released. Moreover, distinct from Orochimaru, who himself had Hashirama as an Edo Tensei, Kabuto took strides to develop his individual power to rival that of even the greatest legends. In terms of Senju ability dealing with life force and bodily energy, Kabuto could breathe his life force into the inanimate and command them as his allies. He had developed bodily regeneration and resillience that surpassed that of Hashirama and Tsunade, and possessed nearly inexhaustible stamina through his perfection of senjutsu. Moreover, he invented many devastatingly powerful and unique genjutsu and ninjutsu with his frighteningly potent sage chakra. His weakness was solely in his mind, and that is ultimately what defeated him and dismantled his nearly invincible undead army of legends.
    8. Uchiha Itachi


    Itachi inspires a huge fandom because of his almost supernatural level of ninja talent (let's face it, Sasuke has a pertier face.) He executed basic ninjutsu so quickly that the Sharingan couldn't see it, he threw basic weapon vectors so skillfully that Rinnegan shared vision was blinded, he used basic genjutsu to humiliated multiple ninja on this list, his basic battle insight was mistaken for a supersensory ability, and the list goes on and on. Ultimately, there is an undeniable x-factor with Itachi. Kabuto claimed that Itachi's unique mind made him a completely different beast from other Uchiha, Obito confessed to being constantly amazed by Itachi, and while Itachi was the guardian of several allegedly "invincible" and "unavoidable" tools and abilities, his mind was his greatest weapon.
    9. Namikaze Minato


    Minato was said to be the fastest man to ever live, and the greatest ninja that the Raikage had ever met, one whom he thought would never be surpassed. The mere memory of Minato holding a Rasengan forced Killer Bee to catch his breath, and many other powerful ninja that knew the Yondaime Hokage have expressed a belief that only Naruto can surpass him. Additionally, Minato was easily one of the most creative ninja in history, having reverse engineered the tailed beast bomb to create the Rasengan, and similarly having reverse engineered Uzamaki sealing techniques to create his Hiraishin, an S-rank difficulty jutsu. Unfortunately, not unlike other immense geniuses, Minato chose to sacrifice himself for his loved ones, but he nevertheless stands as one of the most sublimely talented and powerful ninja to ever walk the earth.
    10. Mū


    Mū invented the Kekkei Tōta, and possibly invented the flight and invisibility techniques as well. As such, he is certainly a top tier creative genius, and has been blessed with an immense natural gift for chakra sensing too. His most notable hype is after the Alliance heard of Mū's resurrection. The Kages panicked, and unanimously admitted that only Ōnoki was capable of defeating Mū, largely because Mū had taught Ōnoki nearly everything he knew. Yet when the time came, the invisible Mū taunted that Ōnoki, in his old age, would certainly die if he did not call for help from the Kazekage, and I believed him. Moreover, while the 2nd Mizukage and Mū fought to a stalemate, and are within the same tier of greatness, I feel that Mū's superior hype and attitude warrants him a higher position. However, there is a noteworthy de-hyping of the Tsuchikages, which came in the form of Madara, whom easily subjugated them without his Perfect Susano'o, indicating that the diverse insight and abilities of the mastered dual-Mangekyō are powerful counters to their techniques.


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    obito > naruto
    kabuto with edo tensei >>>>>>> naruto
    naruto fanboy detected, naruto top 2? seriously?
     
         

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    Re: kakashi and gai> any of 5 kages READ READ READ READ READ READ please

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    obito > naruto
    kabuto with edo tensei >>>>>>> naruto
    naruto fanboy detected, naruto top 2? seriously?
    how does obito > bm naruto also naruto stops kabuto before he summons edo
     
         

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    Re: kakashi and gai> any of 5 kages READ READ READ READ READ READ please

    OMFG

    how does naruto touch obito without kakashi's help?
    kabuto dodged a susanoo arrow, he could easely dodge naruto, he can become into water and he can summon edos really fast

    BOOOM

    obito>> naruto
    kabuto>>>naruto
     
         

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    Gtfo 3rd raikage rapes kakashi ans gai at the same damn time
     
         

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    Re: kakashi and gai> any of 5 kages READ READ READ READ READ READ please

    Quote Originally Posted by ezequielosses View Post
    I'm not saying they beat all of them in 1v1. i'm saying, kakashi is higher in the top than any kage, and that gai is higher in the top that any kage.

    So, i'm saying, in a 1v1 raikage vs kakashi, kakashi looses, BUT, if you rank them, kakashi is higher in the top.

    Gai looses in a 1v1 against gaara, BUT, if you rank them, gai is higher in the top.

    Look how they're fighting obito, madara and the juubi (jubii = 100 PS and 10000 mokuton susano clones)
    They have proven to be very strong (both kage material)

    So my top list would be:

    1-Kabuto (with edo tensei)
    2- Edo madara
    3- Obito
    4- Hashirama
    5- Nagato
    6- Naruto
    7- Sasuke
    8- Itachi
    9- Minato
    10- Bee
    11- Orochomaru
    12- Kakashi
    13- Gai
    14 -3rd raikage
    15- A

    iF we're saying that A is the strongest kage, (IMO he is) , then if kakashi and gai are higher than him in the top, then they're higher than all of the current kages
    Well... I think a 1vs1 senario would leave Obito and Kakashi because they got a dimension that can send anything into. Also maybe the only people that can counter or excape is Minato or Raikage. Of course Naruto pwns
     
         

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    Re: kakashi and gai> any of 5 kages READ READ READ READ READ READ please

    Quote Originally Posted by ezequielosses View Post
    OMFG

    how does naruto touch obito without kakashi's help?
    kabuto dodged a susanoo arrow, he could easely dodge naruto, he can become into water and he can summon edos really fast

    BOOOM

    obito>> naruto
    kabuto>>>naruto
    Well then by your logic, Obito>Kabuto, but yet on your list it says differently.
     
         

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    Re: kakashi and gai> any of 5 kages READ READ READ READ READ READ please

    well, as i like both Kakashi and Guy, i still think Onoki, A and even Tsunade is still a rank above them.. individually, i think they can do a better job against Gaara, well, that is an iffy in my book.. but i think, they'll do well against Mei..
     
         

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