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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    We should argue this in a debate thread, I seriously think Shino can >Neji.. He is severely underrated.

    Shino is underrated.
    I think he is very underrated too, but putting him up against Neji is a bad idea. Its simply a bad matchup for him. Put him with any other K11 member besides Lee and Neji and I think he would do great. Neji and Lee are a bit too hax for Shino's style of fightning.
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    Absorbing chakra through skin is a lot different than absorbing chakra in a jutsu . Plus samehada can't even stop all
    The damage from a jutsu . I DOubt the bugs would be able to absorb rotation before they are killed
    From getting swatted away by it . Also neji can now throw his gentle fist through
    Vacuum palm according to wiki , so he would hit shino before shino could send his bugs out . Neji is also much faster than shino anyway
    Oh lord.. You're going to make me have to debate.

    Samehada has been seen in part 1 to absorb chakra by touching his opponent (Kisame did this to Naruto as shown in Part 1) .. This gave us all the speculation that Samehada would be able to absorb jutsu.. Which is does.. So why couldn't Shino's bugs do the same.. Exactly, they can.. Chakra is Chakra no matter how you look at it..

    Also, as seen in the fight with Zaku, Shino was able to summon an army of bugs in a matter of seconds that not even the crowd saw them before it was to late.. Zaku even was being penetrated by Shino's chakra eating bugs even after being aware that they were on the many surroundings around him..

    Where is it shown that Neji is faster than Shino? Let's take this into a debate thread? I'll vs you and fastrthnwind.. All though him alone will be hard. Best Neji fanboy on this forum.
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    I think he is very underrated too, but putting him up against Neji is a bad idea. Its simply a bad matchup for him. Put him with any other K11 member besides Lee and Neji and I think he would do great. Neji and Lee are a bit too hax for Shino's style of fightning.
    If neji is a bad matchup
    Then so is Hinata ..
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    We should argue this in a debate thread, I seriously think Shino can >Neji.. He is severely underrated.

    Shino is underrated.
    Shino is indeed factually and logically underrated by nature... V.V
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    Oh lord.. You're going to make me have to debate.

    Samehada has been seen in part 1 to absorb chakra by touching his opponent (Kisame did this to Naruto as shown in Part 1) .. This gave us all the speculation that Samehada would be able to absorb jutsu.. Which is does.. So why couldn't Shino's bugs do the same.. Exactly, they can.. Chakra is Chakra no matter how you look at it..

    Also, as seen in the fight with Zaku, Shino was able to summon an army of bugs in a matter of seconds that not even the crowd saw them before it was to late.. Zaku even was being penetrated by Shino's chakra eating bugs even after being aware that they were on the many surroundings around him..

    Where is it shown that Neji is faster than Shino? Let's take this into a debate thread? I'll vs you and fastrthnwind.. All though him alone will be hard. Best Neji fanboy on this forum.

    Data book made by Kishi himself states he's far superior in speed . Neji is equal to lee in speed in data book . Of course that's lee without gates
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

    Quote Originally Posted by DrProof View Post
    Oh lord.. You're going to make me have to debate.

    Samehada has been seen in part 1 to absorb chakra by touching his opponent (Kisame did this to Naruto as shown in Part 1) .. This gave us all the speculation that Samehada would be able to absorb jutsu.. Which is does.. So why couldn't Shino's bugs do the same.. Exactly, they can.. Chakra is Chakra no matter how you look at it..

    Also, as seen in the fight with Zaku, Shino was able to summon an army of bugs in a matter of seconds that not even the crowd saw them before it was to late.. Zaku even was being penetrated by Shino's chakra eating bugs even after being aware that they were on the many surroundings around him..

    Where is it shown that Neji is faster than Shino? Let's take this into a debate thread? I'll vs you and fastrthnwind.. All though him alone will be hard. Best Neji fanboy on this forum.
    Pffft ill vs you myself. Anyways Shino is a long range type fighter. there is evidence there that he doesnt need to be fast to utilize his style of fighting. Neji on the other hand, has been training with team guy the fastest team in the village. Even their databook stats in speed cant be comparable.

    3 vs 4.5? A whole 1.5 points? Its almost laughable how much faster he is than Shino. Not only that but his byakugan can keep track of all of Shinos bug, which eliminates Shinos elements of surprise, which is key to his fighting style.
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxSikes View Post
    Data book made by Kishi himself states he's far superior in speed . Neji is equal to lee in speed in data book . Of course that's lee without gates
    Link to databook?

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    Pffft ill vs you myself. Anyways Shino is a long range type fighter. there is evidence there that he doesnt need to be fast to utilize his style of fighting. Neji on the other hand, has been training with team guy the fastest team in the village. Even their databook stats in speed cant be comparable.

    3 vs 4.5? A whole 1.5 points? Its almost laughable how much faster he is than Shino. Not only that but his byakugan can keep track of all of Shinos bug, which eliminates Shinos elements of surprise, which is key to his fighting style.
    which databook stats are those? Not that stats even matter now lmao. You think you can take me in a debate? I like your confidence brother. I shall make the thread if you really want this. Do you accept? :rofl:
     
         
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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    Pffft ill vs you myself. Anyways Shino is a long range type fighter. there is evidence there that he doesnt need to be fast to utilize his style of fighting. Neji on the other hand, has been training with team guy the fastest team in the village. Even their databook stats in speed cant be comparable.

    3 vs 4.5? A whole 1.5 points? Its almost laughable how much faster he is than Shino. Not only that but his byakugan can keep track of all of Shinos bug, which eliminates Shinos elements of surprise, which is key to his fighting style.
    Plus shino sucks at taijutsu . Having bad speed and bad taijutsu against neji is very bad . I beliee shino only has 1.5 in taijutsu . That's very bad . All neji has to do is vacuum palm shinos chakra points from far away , close the distance , and gentle
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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

    1. Neji

    2. Lee

    3. Shino

    4. Shikamaru

    5. Sai

    6. Hinata

    7. Choji

    8. Sakura

    9. Kiba

    10. Ten Ten

    11. Ino

    Naruto obviously number one. Forgot to add him.
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxSikes View Post
    Plus shino sucks at taijutsu . Having bad speed and bad taijutsu against neji is very bad . I beliee shino only has 1.5 in taijutsu . That's very bad . All neji has to do is vacuum palm shinos chakra points from far away , close the distance , and gentle
    Fist 64 palm
    Him .
    he doesn't suck in Taijutsu.. the Databook stats aren't even updated, and or accurate (hence the non upgrade).. I can prove to you that he doesn't lack in taijutsu, maybe not on a level that of Neji's or Lee's, but he isn't inferior by that much.
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    Link to databook?



    which databook stats are those? Not that stats even matter now lmao. You think you can take me in a debate? I like your confidence brother. I shall make the thread if you really want this. Do you accept? :rofl:
    Why can't you
    Do it here, plus the data books have been loaded
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    K11 in narutopedia. Shinos bugs most likely cannot absorb chakra from
    Jutsu . Other wise he would have the power of preta and
    Samehada . That wouldn't be too fair . They can only
    Absorb chakra from
    Human bodies unless
    You prove otherwise with
    Direct manga proof . Plus the drain takes a long
    Time.
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    Link to databook?



    which databook stats are those? Not that stats even matter now lmao. You think you can take me in a debate? I like your confidence brother. I shall make the thread if you really want this. Do you accept? :rofl:
    Here is the link to someone who has updated the databooks:
    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=224731

    Anyways, you think all I do is talk when it comes to Neji? You obviously haven't seen me really debate for him. I know when it is more likely that Neji will lose a fight, but trust me, this isnt one of them.
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    he doesn't suck in Taijutsu.. the Databook stats aren't even updated, and or accurate (hence the non upgrade).. I can prove to you that he doesn't lack in taijutsu, maybe not on a level that of Neji's or Lee's, but he isn't inferior by that much.
    The datebook was
    Updated right before
    Pain fight I believe right ? It was post
    Time
    Skip anyway and shino still
    Only has 1.5 lol !
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    Here is the link to someone who has updated the databooks:
    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=224731

    Anyways, you think all I do is talk when it comes to Neji? You obviously haven't seen me really debate for him. I know when it is more likely that Neji will lose a fight, but trust me, this isnt one of them.
    Nejis speed alone trumps shino lol . If lee can beat shino then sk
    Can neji cause they are equal in speed
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

    Nice list but I think Shikamaru should be above Sai. Only because Shikamaru's intelegence.
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

    Quote Originally Posted by fastrthnwind View Post
    Here is the link to someone who has updated the databooks:
    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=224731

    Anyways, you think all I do is talk when it comes to Neji? You obviously haven't seen me really debate for him. I know when it is more likely that Neji will lose a fight, but trust me, this isnt one of them.
    Shino's name isn't even in there.. So they didn't update his stats.. Or did I miss his name somewhere in there? (Nvm checked Narutowikia for stats lol.. Shino is weak as hell in Taijutsu, but still I don't think numbers matter as much as feats do)

    Eh I don't care what you do really when it comes to Neji, for all I know you could be another Draegod as sad as it sounds..
     
         
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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    Shino's name isn't even in there.. So they didn't update his stats.. Or did I miss his name somewhere in there? (Nvm checked Narutowikia for stats lol.. Shino is weak as hell in Taijutsu, but still I don't think numbers matter as much as feats do)

    Eh I don't care what you do really when it comes to Neji, for all I know you could be another Draegod as sad as it sounds..
    http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Shino_Aburame there go to abilities . His data book is there . It's also
    Updates
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

    Mind if i join in on this debate. I am a neji fan but i have Shino for winning this fight by draining all of neji's chakra.
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    Mind if i join in on this debate. I am a neji fan but i have Shino for winning this fight by draining all of neji's chakra.
    Eh I don't mind i'll make the thread shortly, got to walk my girlfriend home get a little side action maybe, and i'll come back and well do this.
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    Shino's name isn't even in there.. So they didn't update his stats.. Or did I miss his name somewhere in there? (Nvm checked Narutowikia for stats lol.. Shino is weak as hell in Taijutsu, but still I don't think numbers matter as much as feats do)

    Eh I don't care what you do really when it comes to Neji, for all I know you could be another Draegod as sad as it sounds..
    I cant believe you actually said that. I held you in higher regards than most people, but saying im an alt of Draegod just because my opinion differs from yours and because my favorite charactor is Neji is very low in my book.
     
         

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    Mind if i join in on this debate. I am a neji fan but i have Shino for winning this fight by draining all of neji's chakra.
    Your lying badly first of all, your not a neji fan at all just checked your
    Posts all of them . None of them say anything about you
    Being a neji fan . Your tryig to suck up
    To drproof.

    Nejis chakra wot be drained lol
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    I cant believe you actually said that. I held you in higher regards than most people, but saying im an alt of Draegod just because my opinion differs from yours and because my favorite charactor is Neji is very low in my book.
    Ya I dont know what's wrong with him
    As well, he usually doesn't respond like that
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

    Quote Originally Posted by fastrthnwind View Post
    I cant believe you actually said that. I held you in higher regards than most people, but saying im an alt of Draegod just because my opinion differs from yours and because my favorite charactor is Neji is very low in my book.
    I was joking man, you're really taking all this serious lol?

    Oh lord.. So much sensitivity, i'll be going I guess.. I thought we all could handle a little aggressiveness since we are all man.
     
         

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    Re: k11 rankings with SAI

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    I was joking man, you're really taking all this serious lol?

    Oh lord.. So much sensitivity, i'll be going I guess.. I thought we all could handle a little aggressiveness since we are all man.
    You are making it seem serious by the way you are posting it.

    I can forgive and forget if its just a joke, but at least put a smiley or something to make it seem like your joking.
     
         
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    I was joking man, you're really taking all this serious lol?

    Oh lord.. So much sensitivity, i'll be going I guess.. I thought we all could handle a little aggressiveness since we are all man.
    Lmao aggressiveness on a forum ?
     
         

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