Future War Suggestions

[ReXii]

Spam is not saying a joke...spam is randomly posting. I takes the fun out of it and makes the threads that should be like 2 pages long transform into a 16 page spread about beans and their color. Spam is a problem, yes.

One time i had green beans, then orange ones, we live in crazy times Scorps....Crazy times.

look at the thread where rexii came to konoha we simply waited for him to hit the barrier

*Cough*
Zero waited for me to hit the barrier, and to be fair its only cause we agreed on making a point.

[-Broly-]

Spam is not saying a joke...spam is randomly posting. I takes the fun out of it and makes the threads that should be like 2 pages long transform into a 16 page spread about beans and their color. Spam is a problem, yes.

your a mod your SUPPOSED. to say stuff like that I think people just need to lighten.up.a bit

@rexii HURR DURR reported as spam that was so unneeded I.hope you get an.infraction lmao
how do you know that we won't start doing that all the time lol

[ReXii]

your a mod your SUPPOSED. to say stuff like that I think people just need to lighten.up.a bit

@rexii HURR DURR reported as spam that was so unneeded I.hope you get an.infraction lmao
how do you know that we won't start doing that all the time lol

Because i can guarantee if i said in that thread, "The minute i get to konoha borders i'm throwing motherflipping F ranks at the village".
Things would have went quite differently, see thats me defending the responses, its as unfair to launch nukes from the borderlands as it is to have ten members mysteriously waiting.
You see where i'm going with this?

TL;DR

Your all phucked up.

[Alternative]

Never again do i wish to see the words "You are Minato the leafs yellow flash and i know all about your FTG technique"
That is pretty much the pinnacle of Metagaming, unless your a Kirabi or fourth raikage bio its unlikely you ever seen the attack!
Rant over.
You should just try to combine blizzards and SY rules together and release them ASAP.

Aren't you now the yellow flash of the premium village?

But anyway, I'm not entirely sure what everyone means by 'metagaming'. People suddenly knowing of all the techniques someone possesses? I'm assuming it's that, and with some cases it's fair. Minato was known for his Flying Thunder God technique throughout all of the Narutoverse, Hashirama was known for his Wood Release, Raikages for their Nintaijutsu abilities etc. They're known as legends, so of course people would have heard of their techniques. They may not know entirely of their techniques just from not ever confronting them, but they would have at least heard of you.

[ReXii]

Aren't you now the yellow flash of the premium village?

But anyway, I'm not entirely sure what everyone means by 'metagaming'. People suddenly knowing of all the techniques someone possesses? I'm assuming it's that, and with some cases it's fair. Minato was known for his Flying Thunder God technique throughout all of the Narutoverse, Hashirama was known for his Wood Release, Raikages for their Nintaijutsu abilities etc. They're known as legends, so of course people would have heard of their techniques. They may not know entirely of their techniques just from not ever confronting them, but they would have at least heard of you.

That is metagaming, basically knowing a reply to an action based on something you as a person know, not you as a character know.
Like that stuff with Minato, look at it this way, his own students thought he used body flicker on that Iwa ninja, Kakashi had no idea he was holding a FTG kunai otherwise he would have called for help sooner, it had to be explained to him afterwards, basically if his own student didn't know, nearly everyone that had faced him is presumed dead except A&B, and out of those it seemed to be only A who figured the FTG out completely until the end of that fight.
How could anyone know, most just thought he was insanely fast, like shisui, maybe his other eye contained a S/T technique the oppposite of kamui that teleported him to whatever location his focal point was focused on, maybe nobody understood that either so he got the name shisui of the body flicker based on that?
You see what i mean, you as a person know how the FTG works, how Amaterasu and Sage mode, and Blast wood, etc etc, you know how it all works, but to use that knowledge even though your bio does not have it, that is metagaming and it's unfair.

[Scaze]

I'm sorry but spam is the very least of the problems its barely even a problem. Sometimes spam even helps take some of the steam off I'm a tense situation. Hoe many people have you seen clamor that spam OS a huge problem in the NW? because your the first I've seen to male this big of a deal. The godmodding and metagaming I agree on though like when konoha went to kumogakure EVERYONE in kumo was suddenly at the gate for no reason lol like when itachi and kisame came to konoha NO ONE knew they were there until kakashi.spotted them I believe

Sorry, I forgot. Spam solves problems, it doesn't in any way make it harder to get a grasp on the situation and thus organize the situation. Neither does it make it harder for anyone who has been slightly inactive to catch up on the war. Spam keeps everything streamlined so that everyone can know exactly what's going on. Spam is just so informative that it's absolutely necessary. Please excuse me for my brain fart, for a moment there I thought spam was the cause of some things that just didn't need to happen in the NW. After all little to no spam results in threads or wars that become annoying and boring and eventually get closed/ended prematurely, like this; http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=271800 & this http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=252749 , and doesn't result in a end that was awesome and successful. Not successful like those that were graced by spam such as this; in fact I can't find an exceptionally good example among the abundance of threads in the NW, maybe because I can't be asked to read through all of those wonderful RP posts.

Of course everybody loves those funny, witty jokes that are occasionally off topic, but really how many of those are needed in a thread? If all spam was just those witty jokes, it'd be about 5 posts per thread. That's not so bad at all.

Sorry if this came across as a bit aggressive, just trying to get my point across. o_o
Of course no spam doesn't mean things will immediately get better, but at least you can know exactly what's going on. It doesn't make reading through a thread that's being used to attack your village so tedious and it can make it easier for people to organize and for sensei's to judge.

[Alternative]

Well to be totally fair, people would have heard rumors of this sort of thing throughout our Ninja World. Even if me as my 'character' wouldn't know of Minato's FTG for example, if there were a battle going on in Kiri regarding this Minato and they made it back alive, it could be considered intel on their abilities.

[ReXii]

Well to be totally fair, people would have heard rumors of this sort of thing throughout our Ninja World. Even if me as my 'character' wouldn't know of Minato's FTG for example, if there were a battle going on in Kiri regarding this Minato and they made it back alive, it could be considered intel on their abilities.

Of course but that intel is only as valid as can be reasoned, someone couldn't return and say exactly what the FTG does unless they managed to deduce it and survive during the conflict and make it back to tell you, If i teleported behind someone thanks to a seal placed on them and they survived the attack, what as a bio would they know?

The answer is simple.

"He somehow got behind me so fast i couldn't follow it and attacked me."

Look at Tobi, Minato tagged him he had no idea, he teleported to him and stabbed him with a kunai and used the contract seal, Tobi had no idea how he done so, he actually just chose to flee with no further information on what happened, this is Tobi his former student if anyone understood his technique to some degree it should have been him no?

[-Haku Yuki-]

Of course but that intel is only as valid as can be reasoned, someone couldn't return and say exactly what the FTG does unless they managed to deduce it and survive during the conflict and make it back to tell you, If i teleported behind someone thanks to a seal placed on them and they survived the attack, what as a bio would they know?

The answer is simple.

"He somehow got behind me so fast i couldn't follow it and attacked me."

Look at Tobi, Minato tagged him he had no idea, he teleported to him and stabbed him with a kunai and used the contract seal, Tobi had no idea how he done so, he actually just chose to flee with no further information on what happened, this is Tobi his former student if anyone understood his technique to some degree it should have been him no?

well thats because kishi didn't want to make minato easily countered my rp person could easily say

"he's thrown a kunai with strange markings on them best to keep an eye on it it may be fuuin jutsu or something" then when you teport to i i could say " i see the markings are like a point he can transport to this point at any time)

frankly everyone taht fought him should have seen this right away unless they missed the kunai or choose to ignore it but had kishi have everyone like a just figure it out he wouldn't have been taht op would he?

[pradattauchiha]

Well to be totally fair, people would have heard rumors of this sort of thing throughout our Ninja World. Even if me as my 'character' wouldn't know of Minato's FTG for example, if there were a battle going on in Kiri regarding this Minato and they made it back alive, it could be considered intel on their abilities.

There is one more thing that is positive in you're topic. It will actually make use of the character more important and kind'a cool. You need to actually work and learn to know about others. Adds realism according to the Narutoverse logic. Also, I assume the data can be shared by people who have actually seen the person using those abilities with their villagers. It will Kind'a damage the point of having every person risk themselves for it, but will decrease the so called "Meta-Gaming"
I assume Training with the person holding the bio's or fighting with them will be good enough? Not sure about the training part.

One more point. SPAM is a topic of focus and it can be solved pretty easy. How? Punish those who do spam. People may say, "So what? Will mods infract or ban everyone" But that is the point. Why not read rules before posting.

[ReXii]

well thats because kishi didn't want to make minato easily countered my rp person could easily say

"he's thrown a kunai with strange markings on them best to keep an eye on it it may be fuuin jutsu or something" then when you teport to i i could say " i see the markings are like a point he can transport to this point at any time)

frankly everyone taht fought him should have seen this right away unless they missed the kunai or choose to ignore it but had kishi have everyone like a just figure it out he wouldn't have been taht op would he?

This is wrong on a lot of levels, for example, you can't assume markings are automatically a fuuinjutsu, you also can't deduce from a fuuinjutsu that he can teleport to the location at any time, not unless you manage to actually turn your head in time to see him appear at the kunai.
Now obviously for speed reasons the Raikage was able to follow his appearance and see the he grabbed the kunai, he also saw the second kunai spin past him a second before Minato reappeared and attempted to stab him holding the kunai that was flying past him.
That made it more obvious in regards to the nature of the FTG technique, but unless you have that sort of vision and speed enough to realize then usually after witnessing two uses of the FTG one directly behind you, then your already dead anyway.
I mean A would probably be dead right now if not for B's help.

There is one more thing that is positive in you're topic. It will actually make use of the character more important and kind'a cool. You need to actually work and learn to know about others. Adds realism according to the Narutoverse logic. Also, I assume the data can be shared by people who have actually seen the person using those abilities with their villagers. It will Kind'a damage the point of having every person risk themselves for it, but will decrease the so called "Meta-Gaming"
I assume Training with the person holding the bio's or fighting with them will be good enough? Not sure about the training part.

One more point. SPAM is a topic of focus and it can be solved pretty easy. How? Punish those who do spam. People may say, "So what? Will mods infract or ban everyone" But that is the point. Why not read rules before posting.

This is all circumstancial, if you have fought me in the ninja world, against my Minato, saw my FTG gathered some info on it, during the fight of course.
And lived to tell the tale then yes, if you have a Minato bio, then no neither of us would know, which is why i wear battle armor actually so people don't say "I recognise you" But obviously nobody reads bio's anymore anyway.
Training with them again no, unless i used or explained the FTG to you while training you for some unexplained reason.
Basically you can only use what your bio has seen, you can't fight Hashirama and know how his wood techniques work, even if you have "heard" of them.
Because you could hear he uses wood but have no idea how he uses it, does he extend it from his body? Does he create it from the floor? Can it only be created around him? What are the strengths if it? Is it flexible or stiff? So on so forth.
Just hearing about something doesn't give you all that knowledge by default.

[-Haku Yuki-]

This is wrong on a lot of levels, for example, you can't assume markings are automatically a fuuinjutsu, you also can't deduce from a fuuinjutsu that he can teleport to the location at any time, not unless you manage to actually turn your head in time to see him appear at the kunai.
Now obviously for speed reasons the Raikage was able to follow his appearance and see the he grabbed the kunai, he also saw the second kunai spin past him a second before Minato reappeared and attempted to stab him holding the kunai that was flying past him.
That made it more obvious in regards to the nature of the FTG technique, but unless you have that sort of vision and speed enough to realize then usually after witnessing two uses of the FTG one directly behind you, then your already dead anyway.
I mean A would probably be dead right now if not for B's help.

why couldn't i? i see a kunai with markings on it is it for decortion? i don't think so so logically as fuuinjutsu have seals and marking on them that kunai might aswell so its a possablty you wouldn't be willing to ignore and yeah i would keep my eye and atteion on the kunai because it might be an attack

also everyvillage has had a minatio bio konoha had dante with the bio after all and gin-san

[ReXii]

why couldn't i? i see a kunai with markings on it is it for decortion? i don't think so so logically as fuuinjutsu have seals and marking on them that kunai might aswell so its a possablty you wouldn't be willing to ignore and yeah i would keep my eye and atteion on the kunai because it might be an attack

also everyvillage has had a minatio bio konoha had dante with the bio after all and gin-san

This is my point, what does your character Haku know about fuuinjutsu?
Do you have fuuinjutsu mastered? Can you understand the kanji of Fuuinjutsu?
How do you know the kanji isn't related to a KG, how do you know its not the kanji for explode, and its simply an exploding tagged kunai?
Can you read the kanji on a kunai as it flies at blurred speeds past you?

The reasons you are making are the very core of Metagaming, Konoha had Minato bio? But its not my bio, my Minato is my own, knowledge of someone else's bio is invalid because we are not clones even if we are the same person, for the sake of RP you act like you don't know, because your bio should never encounter clones full stop.
It's all used to gain an unfair advantage, by your deductions i could simply say i know all ice jutsu...Because i'm an ice master...I recognise all sharingan genjutsu because i have all of them, none of the basic 5 suprise me because i have that mastered.
I can read and understand all fuuinjutsu because i am a fuuin master.
You see how unfair that could be if used?

[-Haku Yuki-]

This is my point, what does your character Haku know about fuuinjutsu?
Do you have fuuinjutsu mastered? Can you understand the kanji of Fuuinjutsu?
How do you know the kanji isn't related to a KG, how do you know its not the kanji for explode, and its simply an exploding tagged kunai?
Can you read the kanji on a kunai as it flies at blurred speeds past you?

The reasons you are making are the very core of Metagaming, Konoha had Minato bio? But its not my bio, my Minato is my own, knowledge of someone else's bio is invalid because we are not clones even if we are the same person, for the sake of RP you act like you don't know, because your bio should never encounter clones full stop.
It's all used to gain an unfair advantage, by your deductions i could simply say i know all ice jutsu...Because i'm an ice master...I recognise all sharingan genjutsu because i have all of them, none of the basic 5 suprise me because i have that mastered.
I can read and understand all fuuinjutsu because i am a fuuin master.
You see how unfair that could be if used?

everyninja has a basic under standing of fuuinjutsu thats not exatcly a hidden ninjutsu only few people know of so i would know enough to know that markings might indicate fuuinjutsu pretty sure in the ninja acadenmy they would teach you each form of ninjutsu maybe not kekki genkai but fuuin jutsu would be on that list as they might have to counter it someday and afte ryou drop the bio it's assumed your new bio doesn't know of it your using two differnt things old bio knowledge and bios in a village knowledge.
and maybe thats why there should be a one canon bio to person rule

[ReXii]

everyninja has a basic under standing of fuuinjutsu thats not exatcly a hidden ninjutsu only few people know of so i would know enough to know that markings might indicate fuuinjutsu pretty sure in the ninja acadenmy they would teach you each form of ninjutsu maybe not kekki genkai but fuuin jutsu would be on that list as they might have to counter it someday and afte ryou drop the bio it's assumed your new bio doesn't know of it your using two differnt things old bio knowledge and bios in a village knowledge.
and maybe thats why there should be a one canon bio to person rule

Your wrong, only a few ninja have an understanding of fuuinjutsu, it is hidden ninjutsu, the Uzumaki clan, Minato, Kakashi, Obito, Orochimaru.
Those are some of the only ninja ever shown to have any understanding of fuuinjutsu.
Considering Fuuinjutsu are Kanji, japanese letters, the only understanding of them would be by reading them.
Look at the curse mark, only Kakashi understood what it was, had they taught them about Fuuinjutsu, everyone present would have realized that sasuke had activated a fuuinjutsu containing stored dark chakra.
But everyone just stood gawping at him like "What the hell just happened"
Fuuinjutsu is directly related to Kinjutsu, in a way yin and yang are, fuuinjutsu is the pinnacle of hidden techniques pretty much, a very select few ninja use kinjutsu and fuuinjutsu, fuuinjutsu are light based in some ways, sealing techniques, Kinjutsu are dark based revival techniques.
Assuming everyone knew fuuinjutsu they wouldn't need sealing teams in the ninja war in the manga would they?
Everyone could just seal the edo's.

[Reborn]

Well, SY's rules were updated a bit since they were tested inside Konoha. But for all those who didn't actually participate or got contact with it, the truth is that they are only a set of limitations and "control" over the Ninja World events.

Things you can expect:

-No village defenses
-No village destruction until the war is won/lost
-No free movement. Each village will have a set number of stages (borderlands (commong to all), border, village walls, inner village, Kage mansion) and the opponents will battle through the defenders in each stage. Much like when in the manga they went after Sasuke and each ninja held back one of the sound four, the same will happen here. if 5 defenders exist in that stage but 8 attackers appear, 3 may chose to carry on and the other 5 will only carry on when they defeat their opponnent.
-War will lose much of the "freedom" to be a bit more restricted much like a tournament. It will go smoother.
-All fights will be regulated in terms of arguing, reply times, rules of conduct, etc.
-Arguments will be dealt with in a thread for it under strict rules and guidelines to avoid flame and spam.
-RP/Movement will be done in separate threads, one for each stage while battles will be on other threads.
-When no consensus is found, fights will always be 1vs1.
-movement will only be possible on foot and above ground.
-a severe "respect" rule will be established where neutral senseis and RP Mod's words will not be contested and argued directly upon.

And many other minor things but this is the main "view" of it.

I'm going to be the advocator for the reading impared and say that if the rest is more complex than I think that'll trip more people up than actual moves and counters in fights >_> lol

But on a real note, I agree with most of the rules up there but the one I specifically find problem with is the 1v1 match ups. I don't feel that all matches should be strictly 1v1, in a real war/invasion like situation shinobi aren't all fighting individuals. I mean if we look at the war in the manga we see teams and squads dealing with single shinobi or other teams and squads. KB and Naruto fought Nagato and Itachi and now we have Naruto, KB, Gai and Kakashi fighting against Obito and Madara.

I'm not suggesting we have large scale team battles like 3v3 or anything, but I feel some leway can be given to have team battles, 2v1 or 2v2. It would probably get messy if we got higher than that and such like with 3v2 or 3v3. However it could be fun, the fair team play or the disadvantaged team vs. the advantaged team to give a suspencful edge etc, etc.

I can't remember what you're reasons were before. I can't recall if it was in the thread where Lili and Sharingdork were coming or if it was somewhere else. I remember you said something as to why fights should be conducted 1v1 but I really don't think that's using the RP to the fullest extent especially when not all members have the best suit of skills individually but seem to work better in teams. It would be just like not fighting your opponents to the fullest. I can see the issues with organization, getting people to respond in accordance with their turns; some people losing interest and not responding; people getting preoccupied with other matters in rl, preventing them from fighting. In cases like that, it becomes irritating, however when both parties are really into it and they do their part the team battles can be pretty good. In the cases where somebody doesn't respond, I've seen more than once people commanding bios for others during inability for one member to participate. I'm not suggesting that this be done throughout the fight but maybe for a certian turn limit (where the inactive person would usually respond) like 2 or 3 and then if not you could simple proclaim that bio dead or incorperate something like Hazama's comatose/full coma state and just let the other member be what they will without their teammate as a result. That's just my opinion on the matter.

[-Haku Yuki-]

Your wrong, only a few ninja have an understanding of fuuinjutsu, it is hidden ninjutsu, the Uzumaki clan, Minato, Kakashi, Obito, Orochimaru.
Those are some of the only ninja ever shown to have any understanding of fuuinjutsu.
Considering Fuuinjutsu are Kanji, japanese letters, the only understanding of them would be by reading them.
Look at the curse mark, only Kakashi understood what it was, had they taught them about Fuuinjutsu, everyone present would have realized that sasuke had activated a fuuinjutsu containing stored dark chakra.
But everyone just stood gawping at him like "What the hell just happened"
Fuuinjutsu is directly related to Kinjutsu, in a way yin and yang are, fuuinjutsu is the pinnacle of hidden techniques pretty much, a very select few ninja use kinjutsu and fuuinjutsu, fuuinjutsu are light based in some ways, sealing techniques, Kinjutsu are dark based revival techniques.
Assuming everyone knew fuuinjutsu they wouldn't need sealing teams in the ninja war in the manga would they?
Everyone could just seal the edo's.

thtas because most of them were un expirenced 12 year olds all the jonins saw it and udner stood it right away. they knew it was orochimarus curse seal.

[ReXii]

thtas because most of them were un expirenced 12 year olds all the jonins saw it and udner stood it right away. they knew it was orochimarus curse seal.

Kakashi was the only one to understand it, and again the evidence was easy enough to come by, Orochimaru attacked him, he has a seal on his neck when it activates he becomes monstorously powerful.
Nothing to amazing there, they got all this information prior to making any judgement, do you see what i mean?
When i use the FTG the only time it can be deducted in my opinion is when they actually seal me teleport to the kunai, like actually watch me do it.
Not when a seal flies past them, oh look a seal....He must be able to teleport to that seal, i mean ninja do that all the time hurr durr...

[Alternative]

Iirc the fourth raikage speculated Minato jumps to one of his FTG kunai, not knowing they were marked just from seeing it once. I may be wrong, but this is how I interpreted it when I saw it in the manga. And it's not like it's impossible to get away from something like that. Remember the stunt we pulled on Konoha with all the shadow clones?

But you're right. Hearing about someone is one thing, knowing how it works on the other hand is totally different.

If this metagaming thing were to come into effect, I think it should be based on what that particular bio has come across. Your first bio may have fought a wood user and survived, your second bio still wouldn't know unless they've come into contact with the first bio with this 'intel' or have previously fought one.

[ReXii]

Iirc the fourth raikage speculated Minato jumps to one of his FTG kunai, not knowing they were marked just from seeing it once. I may be wrong, but this is how I interpreted it when I saw it in the manga. And it's not like it's impossible to get away from something like that. Remember the stunt we pulled on Konoha with all the shadow clones?

But you're right. Hearing about someone is one thing, knowing how it works on the other hand is totally different.

If this metagaming thing were to come into effect, I think it should be based on what that particular bio has come across. Your first bio may have fought a wood user and survived, your second bio still wouldn't know unless they've come into contact with the first bio with this 'intel' or have previously fought one.

The first part is nearly correct but the key element is missing, A charged Minato, Minato flicked a kunai past him, he then teleported to a kunai in a tree on the left hand side, A's punch missed he gawped over to the left noting Minato on the tree, then a heartbeat after he hears Minato grab the kunai and slash towards him, B pushes him aside saving him.
A then thinks to himself, that he is jumping between the marked kunai, this is only after having all this information presented to him.
But he did have a full view of all kunai, even without understanding fuuinjutsu you could deduct it in that situation, but the key problem is people reply differently to metagame then they would, If my Tobirama bio throws a few kunai people will dodge deflect counter with kunai of there own.
But on Minato never in a million years will they let a kunai near them, they have to be tricked which is fun and why i do like Minato, but still its not fair to RP like that.

[pradattauchiha]

This is all circumstancial, if you have fought me in the ninja world, against my Minato, saw my FTG gathered some info on it, during the fight of course.
And lived to tell the tale then yes, if you have a Minato bio, then no neither of us would know, which is why i wear battle armor actually so people don't say "I recognise you" But obviously nobody reads bio's anymore anyway.
Training with them again no, unless i used or explained the FTG to you while training you for some unexplained reason.
Basically you can only use what your bio has seen, you can't fight Hashirama and know how his wood techniques work, even if you have "heard" of them.
Because you could hear he uses wood but have no idea how he uses it, does he extend it from his body? Does he create it from the floor? Can it only be created around him? What are the strengths if it? Is it flexible or stiff? So on so forth.
Just hearing about something doesn't give you all that knowledge by default.

@Bolded: Reasonable.

why couldn't i? i see a kunai with markings on it is it for decortion? i don't think so so logically as fuuinjutsu have seals and marking on them that kunai might aswell so its a possablty you wouldn't be willing to ignore and yeah i would keep my eye and atteion on the kunai because it might be an attack

also everyvillage has had a minatio bio konoha had dante with the bio after all and gin-san

This is my point, what does your character Haku know about fuuinjutsu?
Do you have fuuinjutsu mastered? Can you understand the kanji of Fuuinjutsu?
How do you know the kanji isn't related to a KG, how do you know its not the kanji for explode, and its simply an exploding tagged kunai?
Can you read the kanji on a kunai as it flies at blurred speeds past you?

The reasons you are making are the very core of Metagaming, Konoha had Minato bio? But its not my bio, my Minato is my own, knowledge of someone else's bio is invalid because we are not clones even if we are the same person, for the sake of RP you act like you don't know, because your bio should never encounter clones full stop.
It's all used to gain an unfair advantage, by your deductions i could simply say i know all ice jutsu...Because i'm an ice master...I recognise all sharingan genjutsu because i have all of them, none of the basic 5 suprise me because i have that mastered.
I can read and understand all fuuinjutsu because i am a fuuin master.
You see how unfair that could be if used?

I completely agree on this one. Sorry Haku, but his point is valid. I mean we have seen Dante's FTG ability and such but not Rexxi's. The point is, even if the techniques are same, a person can't GodMode and know them all. Why not let it depend upon the bio of a person? Different bio's = Different knowledge about them. Also agreed about the Fuin part. One without knowledge about seals and Kanji how can yo just Know about them. :shrug: I am lame at explaining but I hope you get what I meant

[-Haku Yuki-]

The first part is nearly correct but the key element is missing, A charged Minato, Minato flicked a kunai past him, he then teleported to a kunai in a tree on the left hand side, A's punch missed he gawped over to the left noting Minato on the tree, then a heartbeat after he hears Minato grab the kunai and slash towards him, B pushes him aside saving him.
A then thinks to himself, that he is jumping between the marked kunai, this is only after having all this information presented to him.
But he did have a full view of all kunai, even without understanding fuuinjutsu you could deduct it in that situation, but the key problem is people reply differently to metagame then they would, If my Tobirama bio throws a few kunai people will dodge deflect counter with kunai of there own.
But on Minato never in a million years will they let a kunai near them, they have to be tricked which is fun and why i do like Minato, but still its not fair to RP like that.

doesn't help taht you die if your hit >_> according to the jutsus damage -.-

[ReXii]

doesn't help taht you die if your hit >_> according to the jutsus damage -.-

Of course, but thats why i had to pass a long ass battle test against two sensei to earn the right to use the bio, i mean i didn't go through all that to be metagamed at every turn, i would have just made a sharingan like every other metagamer and used the following sentence.

"My sharingan see's your chakra enter the [earth/sky/mold in your stomach/water] using that knowledge i predict you are going to use a [wind/fire/earth/lightning/water] and prepare to use [Insert elemental weakness to there element] and overpower your technique heading on towards you.

[Scorps]

well, to Haku and to Rexii I must point out somethings to both sides:

-Cannon wise, even a tenten bio has knowledge of fuin. Here weapon methods are fuin. And all bios in NB can use basic fuuin by taking a scroll and unsealing a weapon stored in it. That is fuuin. So, its not actually a "hidden" ability. It may be hard to grasp and master, yes, but its part of the ninjas basic knowledge much like e-Rank ninjutsu. Even an explosive tag is nothing more than an application of fuuin.

-FTG isn't exactly, 100% fuuin but rather a self summoning contract. You summon yourself to the tag you put in somewhere. The target is a seal basically because you have your chakra there and need it as a beacon to summon yourself into. When you summon an animal, you use your blood as the "connector" to the contract. Every summon has his blood on the contract as well. And the contract is nothing more than a big, elaborate application of fuuin. Minato does it with or better yet, through his individual chakra. Thus why its a seal. Its inner workings are a mix of both summoning and fuuin. So, saying its only one or the other isn't accurate.

As for the whole metagaming thing... Rexii you yourself fall under than same old "mistake". We all do at times. Its normal. Its an RP forum game. Example: I make you see butterflies. Ok... you immediately think its a gen and react to it and what not...Well, what if i was a bug user using butterflies? or they were my cannon contract? or they were papper tags transformed into butterflies to fool you? Yet, we alolow it to some degree. Its called adapting the manga to fit the RP and making it work.

Reborn, 2vs2 battles don't work because sadly 8 out of 10 roleplayers don't show the ability to conduct that type of battle without leading to an endless streak of arguments. Time frame becomes too easiy to mess with. Restrictions become a pain. And in essence the fight becomes a mayhem. But they won't be...forbidden. If both parties agree, then yes. But if they can't find an understanding, the simplest, more viable option will be enforced.

Guys, this type of free for all war and RP doesn't work. Simple. So it mus be conducted in a viable manner and forget a bit about the realism part of the cannon side of things. We can't say 30 ninjas attack at once a village vs 30 defenders. Nor 4 vs 10 nor any other number we might find reasonable. The RP is an interpretation and an application of Narutoverse. but we need to shape things to make them viable and work, otherwise it won't. It wouold be cool that we could fololow and make it work and such but we can't. So we need to shape it to fit our context and to fit our context things need to be editted to make it work. And that will make it so that fights will need to be as simple as possible and as much organization and guiidelines will be enforced as possible otherwise...nothing happens but flames ...

[Zero Kelvin]

-War will lose much of the "freedom" to be a bit more restricted much like a tournament. It will go smoother.

Say I prove to the RP Mods that I'm responsible enough to handle some 'free roleplay', would it be possible for me and others who have done the same to do some actual roleplaying?
Honestly, I see the point of this rule, but it saddens me greatly that it's needed in the first place.