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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Gaara is a bad match up for Kakashi. Gaara's techs are on too huge a scale for Kakashi to counter.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Izuna Kakashi Senju View Post
    That Naruto probably wouldn't have been able to beat them at 100%.
    and how do we know this?!? Naruto has defeated many others with more experience than himself
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirigaya Kazuto View Post
    Gaara is a bad match up for Kakashi. Gaara's techs are on too huge a scale for Kakashi to counter.
    That is what people don't understand.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Gaara obviously wins,kamui isnt goin to save kakashi when he faces a sand tsunami which gaara can one panel easily.this isnt a contest gaara for sure. For those saying kakashi is faster than gaara, gaara's sand is much faster than kakashi,and lightening is no longer a problem,neither is water,so kakashi has nothing at all. Gaara mid diff
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by genii96 View Post
    Gaara obviously wins,kamui isnt goin to save kakashi when he faces a sand tsunami which gaara can one panel easily.this isnt a contest gaara for sure. For those saying kakashi is faster than gaara, gaara's sand is much faster than kakashi,and lightening is no longer a problem,neither is water,so kakashi has nothing at all. Gaara mid diff
    his fan-base cant accept this
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by genii96 View Post
    Gaara obviously wins,kamui isnt goin to save kakashi when he faces a sand tsunami which gaara can one panel easily.this isnt a contest gaara for sure. For those saying kakashi is faster than gaara, gaara's sand is much faster than kakashi,and lightening is no longer a problem,neither is water,so kakashi has nothing at all. Gaara mid diff
    Yes, his sand was extremely fast at the kage summit and now that oonoki has lightened it it is definitely faster than Kakashi.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    Simply because he was able to compete even Itachi in a jutsu speed combining water wall, water clone, hiding under water all that in an instant, and even reacted to Itachi's explosiv clone when kurenai couldn't even follow:
    No one has shown to be faster than him in jutsu speed/handseals besides from Itachi. Sakura and Naruto even said it was too fast for them to follow and that they needed somehow to stop him using his hands to have a chance to get the bells.


    Chidori was already able to break thru his ultimate defense(the same move he used against Deidara) and wound him pretty badly. Sand has already been proven to be weak against Chidori whether he is in his Shukaku form or when he uses all his sand to protect himself creating that ultimate defense, and Raikiri is even stronger than Chidori, so do the math
    Itachi is smarter than Gaara, has Sharingan to see handseals or chakra, and has also great insight in a fight, but even him was caught by Kakashi's clone in more than one occasion. Same goes for Pain(who even has the ultimate dojutsu Rinnengan). If even Itachi, or Pain were caught by Kakashi's clone, it's not Gaara who would be an exception.

    Kamui on the other hand has shown to be not predictable at all since even a self Kamui user like Tobi(with Sharingan and Rinnengan activated) didn't even noticed when Kakashi warped the clone, when he said before that he would pay attention on it.

    So good luck for Gaara who besides the fact has not shown something even closer to Obito's insight or reaction feats, even has no knowledge on the jutsu


    The weakness i was talking about is this. Gaara only has a limited amount of sand that stays in his gourd, and it's with that sand that he attacks and defend himself, his own sand being faster and stronger than the normal sand you see in the desert. He needs all his sand to create the ultimate defense. That's why when he uses it to attack, he can't defend himself completely with his own sand. If he attacks, it will create a hole in his defense like we can see here. So if you notice something like this, you can use Gaara's sand against himself for example by introducing small explosiv tags in it when he uses it to attack, so that at the moment he defends himself, he could receive the blast of it, exactly what Deidara did. But that's only one method of using Gaara's sand against himself since there are others
    That's what any neutral person who read the manga and know how the ninja world works in narutoworld would say.

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    why r u guys talking bout only strengh strengh strengh. in other ways for eg.in experience,kakashi is greater,bt in looks gaara is way cooler,hotter n kawaiier!!
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    I think you're severely underestimating Kakashi's battle experience. He can quickly evaulate a situation and with his sharingan it raises that ability. Kakashi was at a Jounin level when he was at the age Naruto was when he was a Genin. (kakashi was around 13 during the episodes when it showed how he acquired his sharingan). I think that counts for a lot. He's one of Konoha's strongest ninja currently, and he certainly ranks high with strongest ninja of Konoha ever.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Kakashi can use hidden mist technique then use a clone as a decoy then go come up from underground and hit Gaara with a Raikiri.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Izuna Kakashi Senju View Post
    Kakashi can use hidden mist technique then use a clone as a decoy then go come up from underground and hit Gaara with a Raikiri.
    wow! Yeah this will bet Garra, who happens to be a Kage.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    wow! Yeah this will bet Garra, who happens to be a Kage.
    I gave an example of what Kakashi would use as when he fought Itachi(who is on kage level) he used hidden mist technique to mess up Itachi's vision and use a clone feint to attack him. Plus who apart from Gaara is kage level in the hidden sand village?
     
         
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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Izuna Kakashi Senju View Post
    I gave an example of what Kakashi would use as when he fought Itachi(who is on kage level) he used hidden mist technique to mess up Itachi's vision and use a clone feint to attack him.
    it's a nice little trick, but wouldn't fool anyone, especially one who has sand that could sense his presence.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Kamui can take out a whole Bijuu.

    Kakashi used it to teleport a transformed Bee.

    Gaara's sand shield is limited his actual sand only has enough to make that sphere around him.
    A Bijuu is way bigger than a tiny sand sphere.
    Meaning Kakashi can send Gaara and his shield right in to the next dimension.

    That's not a win though over time yeah because Gaara would obviously die of old age.
    However Gaara would be away from the ground and any extra sand meaning just his sand shield sand.
    Kakashi can warp in to the dimension, use the first gate, Raikiri through the sand shield and kill Gaara.

    Raikiri is a more powerful penetrating technique than Chidori, which could get through the sand.
    Raikiri would go through it like it was butter.

    Kakashi wins this.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Firstly I would be lying if I said gaara stomps but I think high difficuly for gaara since the radius of his sand is roughly a meter judging from the gaara rock lee fight however he can extend it; even if kakashi was to break through the sans its only his hand tjats lightning infused as for his arm well its stuck in the sand.

    Kamui poses the biggest thrreat of all since it can warp sizes of a tailed beast but in saying that coulkdnt gaara just put sand infront of the kamui?? If not the arial fighting is better for him, also having said tjat if kakashi warps something that big it exasts him to the point of collapse. Sand tsunami is huge and like some people said 'kamui' , He ca only use kamui so many times and people seem to forget minerals in the ground which he can make sand from so his supply is limitless
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Boskarta View Post
    Kamui can take out a whole Bijuu.

    Kakashi used it to teleport a transformed Bee.

    Gaara's sand shield is limited his actual sand only has enough to make that sphere around him.
    A Bijuu is way bigger than a tiny sand sphere.
    Meaning Kakashi can send Gaara and his shield right in to the next dimension.

    That's not a win though over time yeah because Gaara would obviously die of old age.
    However Gaara would be away from the ground and any extra sand meaning just his sand shield sand.
    Kakashi can warp in to the dimension, use the first gate, Raikiri through the sand shield and kill Gaara.

    Raikiri is a more powerful penetrating technique than Chidori, which could get through the sand.
    Raikiri would go through it like it was butter.

    Kakashi wins this.
    after wrapping the bijuu Kakashi was exhausted and this was after receiving chakra fully restored. So seeing as Garra likes starting with a Tsunami, Kakashi wrapping that would exhaust him and he would even wrap it all.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Kakashi's stamina has increased as he was able to fight V2 jins and Obito for a long period of time and he has improved with his use of Kamui lately using it at least 4 or 5 times a day now. He has the advantage in Ninjutsu as his speed in hand seals was unreadable from Naruto and Sakura who came back from two and a half years training with two of the Legendary Sannnin. His Intelligence is said to surpass a tactical genius such as Shikamaru Nara PartI, and his taijutsu is said to surpass PatI Rock Lee who gave Gaara trouble. And Kakashi always has a plan in battle and analyses his opponents abilities and usually uses a clone to test the opponent before confronting them and was able to figure out how to harm Obito and only two people before him were able to figure this out Konan and Minato. He would be able to analyse Gaara's strategy and then capitilise on it using distrations such as Lightining beast running jutsu or Water Dragon jutsu then using a Lightning clone he would use Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique to rob Gaara of his freedom then Kamui him.
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by Izuna Kakashi Senju View Post
    Kakashi's stamina has increased as he was able to fight V2 jins and Obito for a long period of time and he has improved with his use of Kamui lately using it at least 4 or 5 times a day now. He has the advantage in Ninjutsu as his speed in hand seals was unreadable from Naruto and Sakura who came back from two and a half years training with two of the Legendary Sannnin. His Intelligence is said to surpass a tactical genius such as Shikamaru Nara PartI, and his taijutsu is said to surpass PatI Rock Lee who gave Gaara trouble. And Kakashi always has a plan in battle and analyses his opponents abilities and usually uses a clone to test the opponent before confronting them and was able to figure out how to harm Obito and only two people before him were able to figure this out Konan and Minato. He would be able to analyse Gaara's strategy and then capitilise on it using distrations such as Lightining beast running jutsu or Water Dragon jutsu then using a Lightning clone he would use Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique to rob Gaara of his freedom then Kamui him.
    U say it like its that simple
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTailedSage View Post
    U say it like its that simple
    I'm not saying it will be simple whoever wins will win with high edging to extreme diff
     
         

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    Re: How is Kakashi>Garra?!?! I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTailedSage View Post
    Firstly I would be lying if I said gaara stomps but I think high difficuly for gaara since the radius of his sand is roughly a meter judging from the gaara rock lee fight however he can extend it; even if kakashi was to break through the sans its only his hand tjats lightning infused as for his arm well its stuck in the sand.

    Kamui poses the biggest thrreat of all since it can warp sizes of a tailed beast but in saying that coulkdnt gaara just put sand infront of the kamui?? If not the arial fighting is better for him, also having said tjat if kakashi warps something that big it exasts him to the point of collapse. Sand tsunami is huge and like some people said 'kamui' , He ca only use kamui so many times and people seem to forget minerals in the ground which he can make sand from so his supply is limitless
    Agreed.
     
         

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