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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenUzumaki View Post
    He did use susanoo although it wasn't perfect. Like I already said before, maybe using wood style is better than EMS technique against a tailed beast. Hashirama could capture almost every tailed beast easily because Mokuton is their weakness (absorbs chakra).
    This is obvious, but your missed my question. I am asking, why has Madara not used his 'Eternal Mangekyō' techniques since being resurrected? Susano'o is the final power realized when the prerequisites have been actualized, so why has he not shown these ocular powers that enabled him to awaken Susano'o. For all the readers know, they could be quite an effective counter against Naruto and company.

    Edit: Moreover; in this fight, Madara has done more to him than Naruto has to Madara.
     
         
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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Ok so let's clear a matter. Despite what the manga says, Madara is not going all out. Edo Madara has unlimited chakra. Meaning? He can create 25 Susanoo clones, but because chakra is distributed evenly and his chakra is inexhaustible that would mean his clones also have the option of using Perfect Susanoo. And Surely, while Kurama can match one PS, can he match 26?

    Similarly, with the only suiton user present, and with ample wood around I am rather confused as to why he does not use his Katons?

    Additionally, meteors falling from the sky would surely propose a problem for Naruto.

    As would being attacked with a string of Yasaka Magatamas.

    Tbb's and theoretically all of the Kyuubi's cloak could be absorbed by Preta Path, and it would seem that in the Presence of the Juubi Naruto cannot channel Sage Mode.

    The pollen from Advent World of Flowering Trees has yet to make an appearance.

    And No attempt to put anyone in genjutsu has been made.

    No mind games to be played.

    Just this use of a basic Susanoo and Hashi's wood dragon.

    And if him and Obito were really co-operating, Obito would have first separated Kakashi and took him to the other dimension, where they would have double teamed him and killed him. Then come back for Gai, then Naruto.
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Microsword57 View Post
    I do not think you guys realize no matter what scan you find Madara complimenting them or even showing the slightest amount of struggle he always says "they." Naruto is not doing this alone and with the effort the others are putting in it pretty shameful to delete their achievements. Gai has actually done more to Madara than Naruto.
    True. It is more than just Naruto.
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Microsword57 View Post
    If I know the combination to your school locker and my eyes later get destroyed or removed. Can I not still tell you how to open the locker?
    how can madara talk out a traing lesson? LMAO

    a lock is nothing but a code and you just tell them which direction to turn and to start on "0"
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Microsword57 View Post
    I do not think you guys realize no matter what scan you find Madara complimenting them or even showing the slightest amount of struggle he always says "they." Naruto is not doing this alone and with the effort the others are putting in it pretty shameful to delete their achievements. Gai has actually done more to Madara than Naruto.
    Actually, we've not seen the entired fight since most of the fight happened during the FB, but from what we've seen, Naruto was even dealing with both Edo Madara and Obito in some panels where he had to worry about his comrades
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    plot hole then

    madara didnt have rinnegan at the time

    nagato had it
    Madara gave him the rinnegan soooooo f*ck you mean
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    just answer the simple question

    why hasnt madara captured naruto if he is stronger?
    better question why don't you go ask kishi, gtfo asking me dumbass questions that are obviously something only kishi can answer hell if kishi wanted he can change the whole story and Naruto could end with Madara winning and that will be that, your asking kishi based questions to fans now what logic is that.
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazzilla88 View Post
    Ok so let's clear a matter. Despite what the manga says, Madara is not going all out. Edo Madara has unlimited chakra. Meaning? He can create 25 Susanoo clones, but because chakra is distributed evenly and his chakra is inexhaustible that would mean his clones also have the option of using Perfect Susanoo. And Surely, while Kurama can match one PS, can he match 26?

    Similarly, with the only suiton user present, and with ample wood around I am rather confused as to why he does not use his Katons?

    Additionally, meteors falling from the sky would surely propose a problem for Naruto.

    As would being attacked with a string of Yasaka Magatamas.

    Tbb's and theoretically all of the Kyuubi's cloak could be absorbed by Preta Path, and it would seem that in the Presence of the Juubi Naruto cannot channel Sage Mode.

    The pollen from Advent World of Flowering Trees has yet to make an appearance.

    And No attempt to put anyone in genjutsu has been made.

    No mind games to be played.

    Just this use of a basic Susanoo and Hashi's wood dragon.

    And if him and Obito were really co-operating, Obito would have first separated Kakashi and took him to the other dimension, where they would have double teamed him and killed him. Then come back for Gai, then Naruto.
    manga stated perfect susano is equal to A BIJUU stop overrating

    tbb can break meteor (oonoki stop the first meteor with his hands.....HIS HANDS!!!!!!!)

    naruto destroyed wood before...naruto isnt dumb enough to stand in the pollen
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    how can madara teach obito rinnegan tech BEFORE obito had rinnegan??????????? GTFO andread the manga
    I highly suggest that you are the one to go and read the manga. I do not know how Madara had managed to teach Obito how to use the tech's but it was stated in a scan, a scan that came from the manga, manga > you. Beside's maybe he copied the tech's using his sharingan, unlikely, but anything is a possibility at this point.
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Varrah View Post
    This is obvious, but your missed my question. I am asking, why has Madara not used his 'Eternal Mangekyō' techniques since being resurrected? Susano'o is the final power realized when the prerequisites have been actualized, so why has he not shown these ocular powers that enable him to awaken Susano'o. For all the readers know, they could be quite an effective counter against Naruto and company.
    I have no idea, he is the master of the sharingan, who knows, maybe he's better with the amaterasu than Sasuke and what about Tsuki? You obviously know I don't have the answer for you. Ask Kishi.
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    how can madara talk out a traing lesson? LMAO

    a lock is nothing but a code and you just tell them which direction to turn and to start on "0"
    If I recall Jiraiya trained Konan to use Origami the way she does, but does not possess such techniques.
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Great Sage of Uchiha View Post
    better question why don't you go ask kishi, gtfo asking me dumbass questions that are obviously something only kishi can answer hell if kishi wanted he can change the whole story and Naruto could end with Madara winning and that will be that, your asking kishi based questions to fans now what logic is that.
    LMFAO

    madara didnt capture naruto because he isnt strong enough...your dont need a masters degree to understand that dumba*z

    i dont give a f*ck what kishi COULDVE did...HE DIDNT DO AND MADARA FAILED TO CAPTURE NARUTO/KILLER BEE
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazzilla88 View Post
    Ok so let's clear a matter. Despite what the manga says, Madara is not going all out. Edo Madara has unlimited chakra. Meaning? He can create 25 Susanoo clones, but because chakra is distributed evenly and his chakra is inexhaustible that would mean his clones also have the option of using Perfect Susanoo. And Surely, while Kurama can match one PS, can he match 26?

    Similarly, with the only suiton user present, and with ample wood around I am rather confused as to why he does not use his Katons?

    Additionally, meteors falling from the sky would surely propose a problem for Naruto.

    As would being attacked with a string of Yasaka Magatamas.

    Tbb's and theoretically all of the Kyuubi's cloak could be absorbed by Preta Path, and it would seem that in the Presence of the Juubi Naruto cannot channel Sage Mode.

    The pollen from Advent World of Flowering Trees has yet to make an appearance.

    And No attempt to put anyone in genjutsu has been made.

    No mind games to be played.

    Just this use of a basic Susanoo and Hashi's wood dragon.

    And if him and Obito were really co-operating, Obito would have first separated Kakashi and took him to the other dimension, where they would have double teamed him and killed him. Then come back for Gai, then Naruto.
    1. Despite what the manga says, despite what kishi wrote? I don't even..

    2. His chakra replenish but his maximum chakra level stay the same, why do you think he wants the Juubi to use Tsuki despite ''infinite chakra'' ? This means he can't put all 25 clones in perfect form, except with the Juubi's chakra

    3. Bijuu Dama or simply avoid it.

    4. , ''basic use''
     
         
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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Microsword57 View Post
    If I recall Jiraiya trained Konan to use Origami the way she does, but does not possess such techniques.
    :sy::sy::sy::flaw:

    konan ALREADY had the jutsu, j-man just helped her practice...like kakashi did with naruto rasengan training

    by your logic: i guess j-man can use flying thunder god since he trained minato
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    manga stated perfect susano is equal to A BIJUU stop overrating

    tbb can break meteor (oonoki stop the first meteor with his hands.....HIS HANDS!!!!!!!)

    naruto destroyed wood before...naruto isnt dumb enough to stand in the pollen
    He was dumb enough to get calt by nagato
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    maybe we all need a moment collect our breath breathe in and out and have a nice cup of tea or a bowl of ramen to soothe our

    minds inner peace as Shifu says inner inner peace
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    Actually, we've not seen the entired fight since most of the fight happened during the FB, but from what we've seen, Naruto was even dealing with both Edo Madara and Obito in some panels where he had to worry about his comrades
    While this is an impressive feat the thread is referring to specifically Naruto himself giving Madara trouble in capturing Naruto when infact it is his comrades that is keeping him from capture. I could easily talk about how Naruto would have been capture without the help of his comrades chapters back but that would be irrevelent to Madara. Naruto has shown nothing towards Madara directly that should give people the impression Naruto is causing major problems for Madara. Considering Madara has only really attacked Naruto with the wood dragon which was released with the help of Guy. Naruto causing the Susanoo sword was a great feat but Madara was attacking Killer B.
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForbiddenUzumaki View Post
    I have no idea, he is the master of the sharingan, who knows, maybe he's better with the amaterasu than Sasuke and what about Tsuki? You obviously know I don't have the answer for you. Ask Kishi.
    I don't need to, for the author has already implied Madara's ocular powers some time ago. Furthermore; to the OP, what do you hope to gain by this type of thread? I'm curious.
     
         
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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by muutobirama3rdraikagemizu View Post
    He was dumb enough to get calt by nagato
    lol good one

    but kishi did that to have itachi save the day

    TOO BAD MADARA ISNT VERY SMART HIMSELF, he challenged killer bee and naruto and now madara is salty lol
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    :sy::sy::sy::flaw:

    konan ALREADY had the jutsu, j-man just helped her practice...like kakashi did with naruto rasengan training

    by your logic: i guess j-man can use flying thunder god since he trained minato
    You misunderstand. What I am saying is that Jiraiya trained her to use her Origami skills as a weapon without using the Jutsu. No Konan did not possess Paper Jutsu until Jiraiya stepped in. She was skilled an Origami like any normal human could be with practice but I can not turn my Origami into Ninjutsu and that is what Jiraiya trained her to do[1]. Neither of the 3 had knowledge on how to use Ninjutsu and they asked Jiraiya to teach them Ninjutsu[1]. Flying Thunder God is a completely different case. Jiraiya did not teach Minato that Jutsu or how to obtain such a Jutsu that was Minato using Jiraiya's Jutsu to advance himself. What you claim my logic is, is exactly what my Statements and "Logic" is disproving. You misunderstand my comments.
     
         
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