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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sage mode Tobi View Post
    Naruto has already faired well against the rinnegan techs.Twice.
    three times

    nagato twice
    and obito's 6 paths
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    NaruXSaku, such a bad loser, no sportsmanship whatsoever, admit defeat. Your statemet's which you proudly believe as facts have been proven as a false/ opinion since page 3, lol.
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Of Thy Soul View Post
    NaruXSaku, such a bad loser, no sportsmanship whatsoever, admit defeat. Your statemet's which you proudly believe as facts have been proven as a false/ opinion since page 3, lol.
    what?? i wasnt proved wrong

    your still here? i told you i was busy lol

    you made like 20 post in this thread and NONE was about the thread

    go to sleep or something lol
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by RasenUchihaChaos View Post
    well he has to deal with naruto kurama gai bee and hachi while obito was fooling around with kakashi u act like naruot is

    doing all the work yet he has others helping if it was just him and kurama they both be toast by now nice crunchy

    blackened toast with grape jelly and nice crispy bacon and eggs
    dude it cant happen that way even if naruto and kurama war fighting obito and madara he wont get crunchy or whatever
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    anything CAN be done

    1. this is kishi's manga and anything will happen

    2. i just proved that madara didnt have rinnegan to teach obito with

    3. i just proved obito never had rinnegan until he fought konan

    4. i just proved talking ALONE cant teach an ability

    5. it doesnt matter what anyone says, kishi ill give madara and obito all rinnegan trchs IF he chooses to...and if not, then we will not see madara and obito use the abilities

    6. the point was that i prove that kishi has plothole AND if madara and obito does have the abilities, it'll be because KISHI wants them to have...not because madara TALKED about it

    7. i could go even deeper into the story (logically) and say "how did madara learn rinnegan techs???? madara was on his deathbed, so how did he get up and train with rinnegan WHILE connected to the gedo mazo??? madara couldnt even move....he slept all day"
    Number four is incorrect.
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Varrah View Post
    Number four is incorrect.
    i just proved it correct...go back and read while i go to sleep lol
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by PuppyDogGeneral View Post
    Other Jutsu Edo Madara has not used against Naruto:

    Preta path + techs
    Nakara path + techs
    Human Path + techs
    Deva Path + techs
    Animal Path + techs
    Asura Path + techs

    Perfect Susano'o
    Those are worthless as long as Naruto has someone as strong as him backing him 2v1, which is the exact situation if Madara went out and attacked Naruto.
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    i just proved it correct...go back and read while i go to sleep lol
    No; its incorrect. You only made a premature assertion.

    A person can learn by only hearing, for a visual example does not need to be present in order for someone to learn. It may be helpful, but it is in no way required.
     
         
    Last edited by Varrah; 11-24-2012 at 06:35 AM. Reason: Grammatical Error

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    next week i want to know what happen to the 5 kage.. ^__^
    i really excited to see tsunade die!!!
    hahahaha
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    what?? i wasnt proved wrong

    your still here? i told you i was busy lol

    you made like 20 post in this thread and NONE was about the thread

    go to sleep or something lol
    (ςô_¬) You were making me laugh a little bit, But you've become plain lame ever since you started pretending to be trolling, Telling everyone pretty much the same thing:

    LMFAO

    Blahh blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah
    blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
    blah blah blah

    And lol.
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mannequin View Post
    (ςô_¬) You were making me laugh a little bit, But you've become plain lame ever since you started pretending to be trolling, Telling everyone pretty much the same thing:

    LMFAO

    Blahh blah blah blah blah blah blah blahblah blah
    blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
    blah blah blah

    And lol.
    because im not gonna keep typing these long posts just to keep repeating myself to the same people so i started joking until another debater decided to come

    but the thread died down
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Madara is just ridiculously over rated people think he preformed just how he does with Edo when he fought Hashirama. By now Madara would be dead Multiple times. - Tsuande- Gai - Chakra Deprivation.
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    The fact that madara said hes serious doesnt mean he just go on spamming jutsu like a kid, he summoned da Gedo and u say he doesnt know his own eye ?
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Madara at that time knew everything about the rinnegan,he was just to use them.... He absorbed naruto rasengan right ? So taught him that ?
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Funny thing here is that he haven't used his full powers yet, only like two techniques. If he fought like he did to the kages then it would be over, but plot because Naruto is main
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Oh really may be madara's was thinking him fodders.but naruto is just of his lvl.
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    going with madara just sparing naruto i mean if he kills the host hes gotta wait and he dont got time to wait for a new host plus i mean kinda bullshit how kakashi and guy magically get revived by the nine tails when kakashi should have been done a long time ago with his chakra strain. Seriously if madara can beat the hell out of kages like that hes def holding back on naruto
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    it all back to this.. naruto needs the kyuubi its like destiny for them to be as one, naruto without kyuubi aint that s trong to face up madara. also madara could as well be fighting easy, hashirama clearly is stronger than naruto, so yeah madara just chilling
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    i belive that the rinegan techs and perfect susanoo is'nt what's needed to fight a perfect jin. As we all know susanoo is very slow and with a kamui user on the battle field you don't wanna be stagnant.. So i think most of madara's tech can't fully used in this situation.. And of cos if madara wasn't edo naruto would be ranked above him..
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    do you have proof that madara has MASTERED rinnegan??????????? NO

    madara can only use preta path, and sage mode>preta path

    and kyuubi>=perfect susano
    That's only half kyubi chakra so don't think > perfect susano or there is no point trying to say sasuke will be = Naruto
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Because Naruto is the main character, that's why.
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Yes, without edo tensai he is not in top3
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    Naruto and bee would be captured right now if it wasn't for that hirudora
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    madara is using 10% of his power if not less.....
     
         

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    Re: Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

    *Sigh*. Here we go again. There is a difference between fighting capure and fighting to kill. In fighting to kill you do not care about your opponent's well being because you want them dead. In fighting to capture you want to opponent alive therefore you do not use extreme force, but what is enough to capture them. Example Kisame's trade mark ability which is absorbing chakra, is why he was said to be the best person to capture jinchrucki's in akatsuki because his abilities best suites this form of capture.

    In the first image below, Kakashi clearly states that, in previous meeting's capturing akatsuki member's was not an option because they were too dangerous. The higher level the opponent the more difficult it proves to capture them because whilst they are attacking with all their might, you are restricting your ability, abilities that if you use you could kill them, therefore not achieving the aim of the fight;




    He later clarifies if there that here that he needs technique's/abilities that are in line with capture;



    Both these two image's was them talking about capturing Itachi.


    Deidora even stipulated it here clearly that fighting to capture is always harder then fighting to kill;



    Dediora claims that not killing Gaara was harder. He couldn't go full out therefore you have to capture your opponent whilst restricted to abilities that will not kill them.


    Current Naruto even with the aim of killing would prove a very difficult task, capturing would prove even more difficult and note that madara's aim was to capture both him and Bee. Madara couldve achieved the aim of capturing or killing Naruto if it was 1 vs 1 with not too much difficulty, he has all the tools to do so and ill go as far as saying mokuton madara is enough to capture naruto in a 1 vs 1 fight.

    We have seen madara's mokuton ability against the kage's and there were full scale, here. Naruto's yang element will just make madara's mokuton which is already on very high scale even stronger like it did to yamato here.

    We have even seen that madara's Mokuryu, which aim is to absorb kurama's chakra even react to naruto yang energy and grew tress just like it did to yamato's mokuton.

    Here;


    Mokuton madara > naruto. When madara's mokuton is on a very high scale. It doesnt help naruto when his strongest form, makes madara's mokuton even stronger.

    Add the Ems ability to this therefore 25 mokuton clones which gets powered by naruto's yang energy, plus gets even greater durability feat from being protected by susano. Did the mention the original madara has full susano activated. So naruto is now battling 25 mokuton clones who can use and due to his form, would have these clones attack stronger, but are also protected by susano and i suppose can use yasaka's magatama if needed, plus the original madara. Then you have his Gunbai which has already deflected a mini tbb from bm naruto's clone.

    Ems + mokuton madara > rofl stomps naruto into oblivion.

    Add the rinnegan. Madara has already shown Gakido path. Able to absorb jinton. Naruto's shroud would provide food for madara's Gakido path. He claimed to have thought Tobi the rikoudou technique which is the 6 path's and has already shown us two path's the first was Gakido and the second is Tendo Path. He used banshou tennin in conjunction with susano to pull 2 metoer's, he later used tendo's levitation ability to arrive at the Tobi fight. Tobi later was about to demonstrate Ningendo path and rip out naruto's soul, i suppose he wanted to use the same strategy as kabuto, when he was using Nagato, here. Use Ningendo path, then revive them later with Jigokudo path

    He also has izanagi, which he said he thought Tobi and if needed since he has both clan's ability in his, gets the availability of complete izanagi and believe me there has been techniques hyped to be invincible but if you know what complete izanagi is, that is the closest thing to the most powerful technique.

    Madara might be overrated when compared with rikoudou sennin however if you know what edo madara is you'll lol hard at those who say hashirama can defeat him. I just don't even bother with that fanbase

    Mokuton + Ems + Rinnegan, disembowels naruto with No difficulty, whether the aim is to capture or kill
     
         
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