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    SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    What do you mean?!

    These two pages show it:


    By "those who came before him", Fukasaku's referring to both Minato and Jiraiya (as shown in the first page).

    So, he did say that Naruto surpassed Minato.
    Because Fukasaku said so, duh.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    maybe
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Simple Math View Post
    if the manga said so, then there's nothing to debate about..
    Agreed.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Um no fail thread.

    He probably ment naruto mastered sage mode better than both of them.

    minato>sm naruto
    Jiraiya>sm naruto
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Simple Math View Post
    if the manga said so, then there's nothing to debate about..
    I want to know if there are any manga panels that can go against this; the Minato 'boys should find it for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Charles View Post
    Um no fail thread.

    He probably ment naruto mastered sage mode better than both of them.

    minato>sm naruto
    Jiraiya>sm naruto
    But Minato wasn't even shown to have SM -__-. If you can prove that he did have Sage Mode, and then prove that Fukasaku was talking about Sage Mode (because he was referring to how Naruto beat down one of the six paths extremely quickly), then I might agree with you.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Simple Math View Post
    if the manga said so, then there's nothing to debate about..
    I agree with this.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    I don't agree with you but can't argue with you since it's a manga fact...
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Charles View Post
    Um no fail thread.

    He probably ment naruto mastered sage mode better than both of them.

    minato>sm naruto
    Jiraiya>sm naruto
    minato had sage mode????
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Charles View Post
    Um no fail thread.

    He probably ment naruto mastered sage mode better than both of them.

    minato>sm naruto
    Jiraiya>sm naruto
    No Minato didn't have Sage Mode. He meant exactly that Naruto in Sage Mode was stronger then them.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Prince Charles View Post
    Um no fail thread.

    He probably ment naruto mastered sage mode better than both of them.

    minato>sm naruto
    Jiraiya>sm naruto
    SM Naruto > Jiraya
    SM Naruto > Minato

    Don't argue with manga facts bro.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by November Nolove View Post
    minato had sage mode????
    My thoughts exactly.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Lemme find the databook page hold on.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    I'm pretty sure he was talking about in terms of Sage Mode. Minato has shown he is stronger than Sage Mode Naruto with FTG.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Simple Math View Post
    if the manga said so, then there's nothing to debate about..
    this
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    I'm pretty sure he was talking about in terms of Sage Mode. Minato has shown he is stronger than Sage Mode Naruto with FTG.
    But Minato doesn't have Sage mode. So what else could he mean. He meant that Naruto is more powerful than either of them.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    I'm pretty sure he was talking about in terms of Sage Mode. Minato has shown he is stronger than Sage Mode Naruto with FTG.
    When did Minato have Sage Mode? Fukasaku must have already known that Naruto surpassed Jiraiya in terms of Sage Mode, because moments earlier before these pages they were training together.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by saw2097 View Post
    But Minato doesn't have Sage mode. So what else could he mean. He meant that Naruto is more powerful than either of them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    When did Minato have Sage Mode? Fukasaku must have already known that Naruto surpassed Jiraiya in terms of Sage Mode, because moments earlier before these pages they were training together.
    That's the point. Minato was unable to learn it because he died and didn't have enough time. His level is zero, SM-wise.

    Jiraiya has been able to learn Sage Mode, but not master it. His Level is 1.

    Naruto has mastered Sage Mode, so his Level is 2.

    Thus, he has surpassed them both in Sage Mode.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    feat wise naruto SM cant beat minato
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    That's the point. Minato was unable to learn it because he died and didn't have enough time. His level is zero, SM-wise.

    Jiraiya has been able to learn Sage Mode, but not master it. His Level is 1.

    Naruto has mastered Sage Mode, so his Level is 2.

    Thus, he has surpassed them both in Sage Mode.
    Prove that Fukasaku was talking about Sage Mode, and not that Naruto just blitzed to save Tsunade from the Asura Path. Then, prove that Minato was going to learn Sage Mode.

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi Minato View Post
    feat wise naruto SM cant beat minato
    But according to those two manga pages, Naruto surpassed both Minato and Jiraiya.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    When did Minato have Sage Mode? Fukasaku must have already known that Naruto surpassed Jiraiya in terms of Sage Mode, because moments earlier before these pages they were training together.
    Your sig simplifies it and you argue against it???
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    he surpassed minato cause he perfected rasengan into rasenshuriken
    he surpassed jiraiya cause he perfected sage mode

    thats all there is to it
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    That's the point. Minato was unable to learn it because he died and didn't have enough time. His level is zero, SM-wise.

    Jiraiya has been able to learn Sage Mode, but not master it. His Level is 1.

    Naruto has mastered Sage Mode, so his Level is 2.

    Thus, he has surpassed them both in Sage Mode.
    I highly doubt that is what he meant. There is nothing in the manga that supports that claim. He meant exactly what he said.
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    Prove that Fukasaku was talking about Sage Mode, and not that Naruto just blitzed to save Tsunade from the Asura Path. Then, prove that Minato was going to learn Sage Mode.
    Prove that Madara can/cannot use Amaterasu & Tsukiyomi...
    C'mon dude, don't be this dumb...
     
         

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by lol99 View Post
    he surpassed minato cause he perfected rasengan into rasenshuriken
    he surpassed jiraiya cause he perfected sage mode

    thats all there is to it
    Only when you can prove that's what Fukasaku was referring to.

    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFang View Post
    Your sig simplifies it and you argue against it???
    You're just mad my sig > your avatar. Anyways, the manga > me, so what am I supposed to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFang View Post
    Prove that Madara can/cannot use Amaterasu & Tsukiyomi...
    C'mon dude, don't be this dumb...
    Off-topic.
     
         
    Last edited by Omnipotent; 11-24-2012 at 03:30 PM.

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    Re: SM Naruto surpasses both Jiraiya and Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    Prove that Fukasaku was talking about Sage Mode, and not that Naruto just blitzed to save Tsunade from the Asura Path. Then, prove that Minato was going to learn Sage Mode.



    But according to those two manga pages, Naruto surpassed both Minato and Jiraiya.
    I can't "prove" it. That's just how I've interpreted it. After all, can you prove he wasn't talking about Sage Mode? Can you prove Minato wasn't in the process of or intended to learn Sage Mode?
     
         

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