The End All Debate on the SO6P

[Prime Rib]

First off your assuming
2nd off that is not proof
3rd the uzumaki clan are decendants of the sage beccause the senju and them married into each other having offspring dumb ****

[Tebows Youth Group]

how can u say this ?? kakashi said that about nagato but it was false ... i say it about so6p .... prove me wrong

We see it on the Juubi. That is the only origin that makes sense. I get where people are coming from when they say he had Rinnengan pre Juubi fight, but htink about it. Refer to what I said a litle earlier responding to some one else about this same issue.

[AlexXx]

that proofs that the rikudou sennin is a totally beast. without ninjutsu and rinnegan fighting against juubi.
look at now. with all their modes and eyes cant handle an incomplete juubi.

[Ghost of Uchiha]

Yes, after he beat the Juubi, he could use CT. Then he sealed the Juubi's body.

wouldnt the reningan be removed the instant he unsealed the juubi ?? Honest query

[10023213]

poweful sealing tech : RDS

Increadible Life force : Surviving a fight with kumara (like the 1st)

Special chakara : not special but minato had obvoiusly strong chakara

i hence prove minato to be a uzumaki

surviving a fight with kurama does not mean you have incredible life force lol it just means you can fight well

where does it state minato had strong chakra...as a matter of fact it only states that about kushina and naruto

it states that minato is a namekaze...

[Ghost of Uchiha]

We see it on the Juubi. That is the only origin that makes sense. I get where people are coming from when they say he had Rinnengan pre Juubi fight, but htink about it. Refer to what I said a litle earlier responding to some one else about this same issue.

it isnt a reningan sir i repeat . its a 9 t sharingan

[Tebows Youth Group]

but bro u cant deny that ... N i respect ur theory ... n it maybe true ....as it is a manga for 10 yr old ... it is we teens n young adults who overthink it

I dont know about that. We see the sex jokes, extremely complicated scenarios (Izanami). And metaphors that pertain to very adult themes. The audience may range to younger people, but thats just because they are easily influenced. Kishi doesn't pander to them.

[Tebows Youth Group]

it isnt a reningan sir i repeat . its a 9 t sharingan

Look at it carefully. The sharingan Tomae rest on the ripple patterens of the Rinnengan.

[10023213]

that proofs that the rikudou sennin is a totally beast. without ninjutsu and rinnegan fighting against juubi.
look at now. with all their modes and eyes cant handle an incomplete juubi.

that's why naruto needs sealing tec
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=247925

[Ghost of Uchiha]

surviving a fight with kurama does not mean you have incredible life force lol it just means you can fight well

where does it state minato had strong chakra...as a matter of fact it only states that about kushina and naruto

it states that minato is a namekaze...

ya ik ... but only person who survived a fight with 9 tails was 1st hokage N he had increadible life force that even small part of his dna can regrow arms...

N why would a person with weak chakra be made the hokage

[Tebows Youth Group]

that proofs that the rikudou sennin is a totally beast. without ninjutsu and rinnegan fighting against juubi.
look at now. with all their modes and eyes cant handle an incomplete juubi.

Haha exactly! He was apparently amazing.

[AlexXx]

1st link
still better then vs threads

[Ghost of Uchiha]

that's why naruto needs sealing tec
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=247925

he has one of the best sealing techs ie torrie seal use it

[yellowxflash]

You made some good points, but you're essentially saying the sage an uzamaki essentially powerless, goes up against the jubi with a stick and just seals it as simple as that

[10023213]

ya ik ... but only person who survived a fight with 9 tails was 1st hokage N he had increadible life force that even small part of his dna can regrow arms...

N why would a person with weak chakra be made the hokage

who says it's weak either, i could just be normal
and it's because he's good at fighting of course....you don't need strong chakra just to fight well

he has one of the best sealing techs ie torrie seal use it

obviously didn't read the thread but tell me how he's gunna use something that big on someone that's not even half the size of the kyuubi...

[Ghost of Uchiha]

Look at it carefully. The sharingan Tomae rest on the ripple patterens of the Rinnengan.

Ok 3t sharingan has 1 ripple

obviously 9t sharingan will have 3 ripple

or u want 9 t all in one ripple ... ewww

[Prime Rib]

Time to put facts and Proof on the table, go re read the manga when it says the UZUMAKIS clan has always been long distant realitives of the senju clan, And heres a perfect example and the truth, Hashirama and mito married each other, just llike most members did

[Necromancer4276]

Okay, I see your point. But, I never said he could? I dont know what the Juubi was capable of, but I will say this. His eyes, were passed down from the Juubi, I have explained why I think so. And another interesting thing is with the Senju. What is their trademark ability? The wood release. And what have we come to learn about the Juubi? He is basically nature personified. I find it odd that their ability is so closely related to nature when the Juubi was basically nature itself.

I just don't see how the juubi's eyes could be passed down to the sage's children when kushina's jinchuriki abilities were not. Also as far as we have seen, only Hashirama could do Mokuton, as even his brother and granddaughter could not.

I have believed however that RDS was the seal used, and has been passed down through the uzumaki, but perhaps to add to your thread, you could theorize that Creation of all things was a Jinchuriki ability? As the juubi was said to have created the world and the SO6P used this ability to create the tailed beasts? Just a thought.

[Ghost of Uchiha]

who says it's weak either, i could just be normal
and it's because he's good at fighting of course....you don't need strong chakra just to fight well

As a matter of fact u need strong chakara to be good at fighting .... remember that uchiha n senjus were the best clans ... why??

exceptional chakara

[Ghost of Uchiha]

who says it's weak either, i could just be normal
and it's because he's good at fighting of course....you don't need strong chakra just to fight well




obviously didn't read the thread but tell me how he's gunna use something that big on someone that's not even half the size of the kyuubi...

imagine so6p how does u use a sealing tech on a thing so big without defeating it first with ninjutsu

[Tebows Youth Group]

You made some good points, but you're essentially saying the sage an uzamaki essentially powerless, goes up against the jubi with a stick and just seals it as simple as that

Not at all. I think he was incredibly powerful, I make this point in the thread. We don't know exactly what he was capable of, but we do know he had a very powerful seal.

[Tebows Youth Group]

Ok 3t sharingan has 1 ripple

obviously 9t sharingan will have 3 ripple

or u want 9 t all in one ripple ... ewww

No, I think youre misunderstanding what I was saying. The sharingan has no ripples. The tomae of regular sharingan users dont have ripples like the rinnengan. Those ripples on the Juubi are the Rinnengan.

[Baka Sennin]

Not at all. And ghost uchiha i am answering you here as well.

The Uzumaki have incredible life force

Special Chakra

Power sealing techniques

Sure, Lee can't use ninjutsu but he possesses none of these other things.

Ghost again, these are bad arguments. I am open for debate, but please try to omit those statements. You know they dont have merit.

, what i meant was if you think they're incapable of using ninjutsu like rock lee, or if perhaps it's a clan tradition started by the sage for them to focus on fuinjutsu, much like say the nara clan focus on shadow binding techniques.

personally i think the uzumaki are basically fuinjutsu masters and they never bothered to master other types of ninjutsu.

[Ghost of Uchiha]

Not at all. I think he was incredibly powerful, I make this point in the thread. We don't know exactly what he was capable of, but we do know he had a very powerful seal.

isnt it the tori seal ... i have people calling naruto the next so6p coz he uses the same seal as him

[10023213]

As a matter of fact u need strong chakara to be good at fighting .... remember that uchiha n senjus were the best clans ... why??

exceptional chakara

oh really


if i'm not mistaken hashirama>madara, senju>natural uchicha and it did not say the younger son had powerful chakra....it said nothing about powerful chakra

imagine so6p how does u use a sealing tech on a thing so big without defeating it first with ninjutsu

it's probably impossible to defeat it with ninjutsu and that's why he sealed it right away

just like how madara was too strong and the kages were moorly trying to seal him and not defeat him...if something is too strong then your only option is to seal it and that's why sealing tecs>edos