The End All Debate on the SO6P

[Retsu]

if he were uzumaki then that would mean that both senju and uchiha's come from that lineage...

That however is not the case.

[10023213]

i agree with the theory itself.....it's the proof and layout of the thread that was poorly made

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

Bodily isn't a word.

Yeah it is

[Ghost of Uchiha]

we can't be sure if the Elder son's eyes isn't just an ancient rinnegan
i can't read the last line but he won't get sasuke'e eyes possibly rinnegan but naruto is never getting any other eye power

I think thats how the juubi should be defeated with perfect body and perfect eyes . Either sasuke and naruto come together to defeat juubi or naruto kills sasuke and takes his eyes

[Narutofan4203 -in detention-]

if he were uzumaki then that would mean that both senju and uchiha's come from that lineage...

That however is not the case.

he split his eye powers that originated from the Juubi
Juubi + Uzumaki Jinchuriki: Rinnegan
His body came from Uzumaki, this is how senju's are distant relatives of Uzumaki as Uchiha's Juubi
He didn't have a spouse, he used creation of all things just like Juubi
Their distantly related because their body comes from Uzumaki

[Ghost of Uchiha]

he split his eye powers that originated from the Juubi
Juubi + Uzumaki Jinchuriki: Rinnegan
His body came from Uzumaki, this is how senju's are distant relatives of Uzumaki as Uchiha's Juubi
He didn't have a spouse, he used creation of all things just like Juubi
Their distantly related because their body comes from Uzumaki

That theory makes naruto seem more powerful than he is making him the sage

ok i dont think he is hte sage but he is the child of phosphey(idk how to spell it)

[Retsu]

he split his eye powers that originated from the Juubi
Juubi + Uzumaki Jinchuriki: Rinnegan
His body came from Uzumaki, this is how senju's are distant relatives of Uzumaki as Uchiha's Juubi
He didn't have a spouse, he used creation of all things just like Juubi
Their distantly related because their body comes from Uzumaki

I honestly think you're just over thinking it, manga stated that he had two sons, senju and uchiha, and that uzumaki are distantly related to the senju, it'd be stupid at this point to try and say Uzumaki was here first and then senju and uchiha came , but Uzumaki are only distantly related to senju.

And honestly the guy created the basis for all ninjutsu, so of course he's using powerful sealing techs, but this doesn't mean that he's exclusively uzumaki, only that he is indeed the ancestor that they inherited fuinjutsu from.

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

.. Uzumaki's can't use ninjutsu? Yet they're direct descendants of the Senju, and the senju were great in all categories? .. .

dr proof , it was Never said that they were descendants of the senjuu

it was said that senjuu and Uzumaki were Distant relatives

[Narutofan4203 -in detention-]

That theory makes naruto seem more powerful than he is making him the sage

ok i dont think he is hte sage but he is the child of phosphey(idk how to spell it)

He could be the child of the prophecy since Most people believe So6p is a myth in the story, this could mean hes the reincarnation
and Jiraiya called nagato the child of the prophecy because of his Rinnegan so yeah

[Narutofan4203 -in detention-]

I honestly think you're just over thinking it, manga stated that he had two sons, senju and uchiha, and that uzumaki are distantly related to the senju, it'd be stupid at this point to try and say Uzumaki was here first and then senju and uchiha came , but Uzumaki are only distantly related to senju.

And honestly the guy created the basis for all ninjutsu, so of course he's using powerful sealing techs, but this doesn't mean that he's exclusively uzumaki, only that he is indeed the ancestor that they inherited fuinjutsu from.

He didn't create it, he figured out the secrets behind it.
He could possibly the first uzumaki. But what I'm saying is how does a random human spawn rinnegan, and seal the Progenitor..
And following logic as in So6p had a spouse and that's how his two sons were born how are Uchiha and Senju not related? It dosen't make sense

[Ghost of Uchiha]

I honestly think you're just over thinking it, manga stated that he had two sons, senju and uchiha, and that uzumaki are distantly related to the senju, it'd be stupid at this point to try and say Uzumaki was here first and then senju and uchiha came , but Uzumaki are only distantly related to senju.

And honestly the guy created the basis for all ninjutsu, so of course he's using powerful sealing techs, but this doesn't mean that he's exclusively uzumaki, only that he is indeed the ancestor that they inherited fuinjutsu from.

learned not inherited

[Ghost of Uchiha]

He didn't create it, he figured out the secrets behind it.
He could possibly the first uzumaki. But what I'm saying is how does a random human spawn rinnegan, and seal the Progenitor..
And following logic as in So6p had a spouse and that's how his two sons were born how are Uchiha and Senju not related? It dosen't make sense

didnt kakashi said that the reningan was a mutation

Nd as for sealing is concerned the sage had perfect eyes perfect body and the tools

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

Huh no just no the sage had more traits kishi has already proved you wrong

[Narutofan4203 -in detention-]

learned not inherited

neither
jutsu/chakra (except taijutsu) originated from juubi when he used his almighty Yin Chakra to make the world
I believe he split some of his Yang Chakra into uzumaki's, which is why their bodies are so strong and they are good at sealing

[Narutofan4203 -in detention-]

didnt kakashi said that the reningan was a mutation

Nd as for sealing is concerned the sage had perfect eyes perfect body and the tools

kakashi's mutation theory was proven wrong a long time ago

[Retsu]

He didn't create it, he figured out the secrets behind it.
He could possibly the first uzumaki. But what I'm saying is how does a random human spawn rinnegan, and seal the Progenitor..
And following logic as in So6p had a spouse and that's how his two sons were born how are Uchiha and Senju not related? It dosen't make sense

I'm not saying they aren't, but the manga specifically claimed that the Uzumaki were distantly related to the Senju, and it mentioned ONLY the senju by name, it didn't say anything about sages sons, or descendants in general, but Senju. this would lead me to believe that Uzumaki was not always there.

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

This thread should leave absolutely no doubt in people's minds that the Sage was an Uzumaki. The only ones who want to think otherwise are the ones desperately clinging to the idea of him having the Rinnegan before he faced the Juubi, which is some sort of weird fanboyism towards the Sage being born with that eye due to pure chance, which is completely outrageous and impossible!

As for the powers of the Senju and Uchiha, it is obvious that the Sage conceived his children while he was still host of the Juubi and had his Rinnegan along with all the powers in his body granted by the Juubi.

[Narutofan4203 -in detention-]

I'm not saying they aren't, but the manga specifically claimed that the Uzumaki were distantly related to the Senju, and it mentioned ONLY the senju by name, it didn't say anything about sages sons, or descendants in general, but Senju. this would lead me to believe that Uzumaki was not always there.

their body forces comes from uzumaki their technical father was an uzumaki this is why the clans are distant

[Ghost of Uchiha]

kakashi's mutation theory was proven wrong a long time ago

who proved it wrong ?? anyways how do u know more than kakashi ? if u ever study genitics then there is a full chance of the offspring showing new traits which werent in its ancestors .... So one can randomly get a reningan

[Ghost of Uchiha]

their body forces comes from uzumaki their technical father was an uzumaki this is why the clans are distant

Then they would say that the uzumakis were the ancestors of senju not distant reletives

[DonS]

stfu :sy: no just no

this

[Retsu]

Then they would say that the uzumakis were the ancestors of senju not didtant reletives

this is the main point I can't get over, if it were as you say, then why would the manga claim otherwise?

[Narutofan4203 -in detention-]

who proved it wrong ?? anyways how do u know more than kakashi ? if u ever study genitics then there is a full chance of the offspring showing new traits which werent in its ancestors .... So one can randomly get a reningan

Juubi's Unique dojutsu formed all Dojutsu's.
His Yin Chakra made the world, his yin-yang made humans.
No possible way it could be a Mutation, it's Just Uzumaki + Juubi's DNA
this was the first age, no ancestors existed

[Ghost of Uchiha]

Juubi's Unique dojutsu formed all Dojutsu's.
His Yin Chakra made the world, his yin-yang made humans.
No possible way it could be a Mutation, it's Just Uzumaki + Juubi's DNA
this was the first age, no ancestors existed

Ok if it was the first age then u cant say that the sage was a uzumaki coz he had no ancestors . as far as reletives are concerned then he wont be releted to anyone

[Ghost of Uchiha]

Juubi's Unique dojutsu formed all Dojutsu's.
His Yin Chakra made the world, his yin-yang made humans.
No possible way it could be a Mutation, it's Just Uzumaki + Juubi's DNA
this was the first age, no ancestors existed

Sorry bro i dont accept it . i can accept that the sharingan was derived from juubi but the reningan were devine eyes . They cant be created from a monster