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    Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    He has not been shown to be able to counter sound genjutsu.
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Jiraiya is weaker than the likes of Minato/Nagato/Kakashi etc But your logic is flawed, Minato has no "shown" to be able to counter sound genjutsu. Yet Jiraiya admit that Minato was far superior.

    and you're comparing him to Uchiha Madara who is noticeably superior to any of the shinobi listed above.
     
         
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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Toad Song is a match-ender against anyone but Kabuto, fellow SM users (Sages seem to be immune) and Suigetsu.

    LANDING IT is the problem.
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    He will never pull that off on Madara..
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Quote Originally Posted by KidGamer65 View Post
    He will never pull that off on Madara..
    Don't underestimate JIRAIYA!

    THIS ISWHAT HAPPENS IF YOU UNDERESTIMATE JIRAIYA:


    But you're probably right...
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Quote Originally Posted by KidGamer65 View Post
    He will never pull that off on Madara..
    Haha... And why? Your logic kabutos genjutsu would work on itachi but here you just say it wont work on madara who not even ever shown any genjutsu knowledge, you are funny
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi8179 View Post
    Haha... And why? Your logic kabutos genjutsu would work on itachi but here you just say it wont work on madara who not even ever shown any genjutsu knowledge, you are funny
    Go read my post in the thread fanboy.

    Madara will kill him before he sets it up.
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Hater or rather troll
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi8179 View Post
    Hater or rather troll
    , no counter I see...keep on riding on Itachi's nuts.
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Ha, i dont need counter to a troll who states tayuya can beat susanoo, how about perfect susanoo?
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi8179 View Post
    Ha, i dont need counter to a troll who states tayuya can beat susanoo, how about perfect susanoo?
    , the manga showed Tayuya's Genjutsu immoblizing them and putting down Susanoo...are you blind? can you read? are you stupid?

    See this retard? Susanoo was taken down by Tayuya's Genjutsu. If you still disagree, you are disagreeing with Kishimoto himself.
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Wtf are you blind this is INCOMPLETE VERSION f***ing moran
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi8179 View Post
    Wtf are you blind this is INCOMPLETE VERSION f***ing moran
    You are a dumbass, the sound caused the Susanoo to go down, the sound caused them to lose their focus, Susanoo does not stop sound, so Full Susanoo will go down also...damn you're stupid.
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    You do release they are holding back did you smartass?
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi8179 View Post
    You do release they are holding back did you smartass?

    Ok? Does that matter? Them going all out isn't going to stop them from hearing the sound.....lol, read the manga before attempting to debate.

    Holding back or not Itachi loses, simple as that.
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Without holding back means tostsuka from the start and kabuto sealed
    end of disscusion
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi8179 View Post
    Without holding back means tostsuka from the start and kabuto sealed
    end of disscusion
    Kabuto dodged Susanoo arrow, which is faster than Totsuka, so he can dodge Totsuka.
    http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/579/15

    You fail so hard, Itachi fanboy.
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    What makes you think its faster troll? He hits oro instant from long range
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    if madara hears the complete song he is done for :scorps:, susanoo is helpless against sound genjutsu, but then again he most likely will not able to pull it off against perfect susanoo
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi8179 View Post
    What makes you think its faster troll? He hits oro instant from long range
    Considering Orochimaru was standing still, it isn't much of a feat to hit something standing still, Totsuka has no speed feats that allows it to hit Kabuto.

    Kabuto dodges it, or he just turns into water.
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    You are comparing Jiraiya to a person who was stronger then 5 Kage?
    Against EMS Madara is not enough 1 Sannin. Put Tsunade and Orochimaru and probably they still loose.
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    One sec oro talks another gets hit by surprise it doesnt look slow to me even knowing what he looked the same direction from where gets hit he was surprised, so bullshit
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi8179 View Post
    One sec oro talks another gets hit by surprise it doesnt look slow to me even knowing what he looked the same direction from where gets hit he was surprised, so bullshit
    He wasn't surprised cause he got hit, he was surprised cause he was going to get sealed....and I see you've failed to counter both my claims...when you have an intelligent response reply to my post in the DSM Kabuto vs. Itachi thread, because I'm not gonna derail this thread any longer.
     
         

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    Re: Sm Jiraiya > Current Madara without Edo?

    jiraiya genjutsu took too much time, and give aways there location to the enemy, that being said his enemy is madara who so far have show crazy offensive move. and i think this is his weakest move and it more powerful than jiraiya SM fire style
     
         

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