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      Orochimaru vs Tsunade

      Tsunade is current.
      Orochimaru at his best.

      I say Orochimaru. I don't think he can be killed unless you seal him.

      Who wins?
       
           

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      Oro
       
           

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      Orochimaru low diff.
       
           

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      Orochimaru would win
       
           

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      Orochimaru low diff.
      Low Dif? Bro you crazy? I would give him at least high dif geez.
       
           

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      Orochimaru wins high difficulty!

      He would swallow her and take her body.
       
           

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      Never ending battle. But I give the edge to Tsuande
       
           

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      Orochimaru medium difficulty
      only way he loses is by plot
       
           

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      Oro low to no diff.
       
           

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      Re: Orochimaru vs Tsunade

      So here's what I think working under the the ideas provided by the databook. Their prowess in ninjutsu is the same albeit in they are strong in different areas. She is by far better at taijutsu in comparison to him. He is much better at casting genjutsu. They are of equal intellect. He is a whole tier faster than her. She has more stamina than him. He performs hand seals faster than she does.
      • Attack Prevention Technique: is pointless if Tsunade goes ahead and punches the surface Orochimaru has blended into
      • Binding Snake Glare Spell: Her natural strength was great enough to lift Gamabunta's sword, so ripping snakes shouldn't cause too much problems.
      • Body Flame Technique- Too slow and where would he go?
      • Body Shedding- Actually this is very useful. Orochimaru's body was healthy when Tsunade punched him before but he could not shed his skin because of his arms. So he had to quit the fight. Now he can afford being hit by Tsunade but apparently this jutsu takes a lot of chakra.
      • Five Elements Seal- Would require she had an even numbered seal on to be effective.
      • Formation of Ten Thousand Snakes- Problematic however this technique can be cancelled out by heavenly foot of Pain if acted upon immediately.
      • Gathering of Snakes isn't useful because of the nature of Tsunade's attacks in combination with Orochimaru's soft physique technique. So she won't cut his body.
      • Hidden Shadow snake hands would work against Orochimaru if he tries to grab Tsunade with it as there'd only be a repeat like when he tried to grab her with his tongue. If he tries to poison her, her liver will regenerate and render the poison moot. Or she could use the antidote she has in her tools, which she'd probably have anyway because she worked with Oro for so long.
      • Living Corpse Reincarnation: He's not going to use this in the heat of battle but if he does Tsunade has the mental fortitude to attack while impaled, to attack with stomach and respiratory muscles cut, and to overcome a phobia in addition to her precise chakra control I see her breaking free. The obvious counter to this argument is Orochimaru has a 5 in genjutsu and she only has a 3. This is true but she also has better chakra control. It was stated that healing jutus require a lot of chakra and she managed to heal a whole village, while keeping up her transformation technique, and she had summoned Katsuyu which as we've seen with Jiraiya and Naruto large summons take considerable chakra. In the war she has healed her stomach twice (Susanoo Sword and 3 Yasaka Magatamas) and used creation rebirth to heal the wounds from the heavenly transfer technique, in addition to healing the other kages, and breaking through Susanoo and Madara's mokuton clone. Additionally it was also stated that Medical jutsu requires precise chakra control because if the chakra is not controlled effectively the patient can be killed or the justu is ineffective and Tsunade is hailed as the greatest living medic.
      • Summoning Gate and Triple Summoning Gate Rashomon: Kiba and Akamaru put a dent in the single gate in Part I. Tsunade breaks through it.
      • Sword of Kusanagi: Longsword of the Sky- Tsunade needs only grab the sword. As long as it doesn't decapitate her she'll survive if she can regrow vital organs in her abdomen then she should be able to regrow limbs and digits.
      • Temporary Paralysis Technique- Iirc Genin Sasuke and Sakura overcame this technique.
      • Wind Release: Great Breakthrough -If Tsunade is using her chakra to stay on the ground like she did when Pein attacked the village (she was using it to counter shinra tensei) then I see her receiving injuries similar to the heavenly transfer technique which she'd heal.
      • Eight Branches is nothing but very large taijutsu taijutsu. Tsunade would only need to punch the heads as they attack and the damage recieved with byakougou.
      • Then there is Manda and Katsuya. Katsuya would prove useful against the 8 branches technique. Manda also had no jutsus he could bite and coil. For that reason he'd be defeated as well.
      • Body Pathway Derangement could be countered by perhaps a raiton cloak which Oro does not have and his taijutsu and stamina is less than Tsunade's so he could get caught by that.
      • She can fight similar to Kabuto evidenced by
        she wouldn't be able to compare their strength unless they're styles were similar. If Orochimaru got caught in a similar way to Tsunade then he would eventually need to shed his body.
      • Against her strength he would need to shed his body.
      • Against Katsuya's acid he would have to shed.

      My conclusion Tsunade would win
      Edit: The edos might cause a problem but we know Tsunade has a form of fuinjutsu as per her seal on her forehead. Given the fact that she is the oldest living Uzumaki we know with actual connections to members of her clan she probably has other sealing jutsus.
      But the edos do pose an interesting problem. Though she may be able to remove the talisman Oro used to control them when blow to their heads. At which point they'd help her.
       
           
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      Orochimaru takes this high difficulty
       
           

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      Re: Orochimaru vs Tsunade

      Quote Originally Posted by Tazzilla88 View Post
      So here's what I think working under the the ideas provided by the databook. Their prowess in ninjutsu is the same albeit in they are strong in different areas. She is by far better at taijutsu in comparison to him. He is much better at casting genjutsu. They are of equal intellect. He is a whole tier faster than her. She has more stamina than him. He performs hand seals faster than she does.
      • Attack Prevention Technique: is pointless if Tsunade goes ahead and punches the surface Orochimaru has blended into
      • Binding Snake Glare Spell: Her natural strength was great enough to lift Gamabunta's sword, so ripping snakes shouldn't cause too much problems.
      • Body Flame Technique- Too slow and where would he go?
      • Body Shedding- Actually this is very useful. Orochimaru's body was healthy when Tsunade punched him before but he could not shed his skin because of his arms. So he had to quit the fight. Now he can afford being hit by Tsunade but apparently this jutsu takes a lot of chakra.
      • Five Elements Seal- Would require she had an even numbered seal on to be effective.
      • Formation of Ten Thousand Snakes- Problematic however this technique can be cancelled out by heavenly foot of Pain if acted upon immediately.
      • Gathering of Snakes isn't useful because of the nature of Tsunade's attacks in combination with Orochimaru's soft physique technique. So she won't cut his body.
      • Hidden Shadow snake hands would work against Orochimaru if he tries to grab Tsunade with it as there'd only be a repeat like when he tried to grab her with his tongue. If he tries to poison her, her liver will regenerate and render the poison moot. Or she could use the antidote she has in her tools, which she'd probably have anyway because she worked with Oro for so long.
      • Living Corpse Reincarnation: He's not going to use this in the heat of battle but if he does Tsunade has the mental fortitude to attack while impaled, to attack with stomach and respiratory muscles cut, and to overcome a phobia in addition to her precise chakra control I see her breaking free. The obvious counter to this argument is Orochimaru has a 5 in genjutsu and she only has a 3. This is true but she also has better chakra control. It was stated that healing jutus require a lot of chakra and she managed to heal a whole village, while keeping up her transformation technique, and she had summoned Katsuyu which as we've seen with Jiraiya and Naruto large summons take considerable chakra. In the war she has healed her stomach twice (Susanoo Sword and 3 Yasaka Magatamas) and used creation rebirth to heal the wounds from the heavenly transfer technique, in addition to healing the other kages, and breaking through Susanoo and Madara's mokuton clone. Additionally it was also stated that Medical jutsu requires precise chakra control because if the chakra is not controlled effectively the patient can be killed or the justu is ineffective and Tsunade is hailed as the greatest living medic.
      • Summoning Gate and Triple Summoning Gate Rashomon: Kiba and Akamaru put a dent in the single gate in Part I. Tsunade breaks through it.
      • Sword of Kusanagi: Longsword of the Sky- Tsunade needs only grab the sword. As long as it doesn't decapitate her she'll survive if she can regrow vital organs in her abdomen then she should be able to regrow limbs and digits.
      • Temporary Paralysis Technique- Iirc Genin Sasuke and Sakura overcame this technique.
      • Wind Release: Great Breakthrough -If Tsunade is using her chakra to stay on the ground like she did when Pein attacked the village (she was using it to counter shinra tensei) then I see her receiving injuries similar to the heavenly transfer technique which she'd heal.
      • Eight Branches is nothing but very large taijutsu taijutsu. Tsunade would only need to punch the heads as they attack and the damage recieved with byakougou.
      • Then there is Manda and Katsuya. Katsuya would prove useful against the 8 branches technique. Manda also had no jutsus he could bite and coil. For that reason he'd be defeated as well.
      • Body Pathway Derangement could be countered by perhaps a raiton cloak which Oro does not have and his taijutsu and stamina is less than Tsunade's so he could get caught by that.
      • She can fight similar to Kabuto evidenced by
        she wouldn't be able to compare their strength unless they're styles were similar. If Orochimaru got caught in a similar way to Tsunade then he would eventually need to shed his body.
      • Against her strength he would need to shed his body.
      • Against Katsuya's acid he would have to shed.

      My conclusion Tsunade would win
      Did you steal this or... did you have this ready? LOL Nice work. *****.
       
           

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      orochimaru
       
           

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      Re: Orochimaru vs Tsunade

      It would be Oro with High Difficulty I think. We can't say no difficulty. >.> Tsunade isn't that weak. She has her mark, which will save her until it runs out of chakra and she turns into her old form. She has a summoning too.
       
           

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      Hmm... Tsunade has been showing us some impressive moves lately, but I'd have to give it to Orochimaru.
       
           

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      Tsunade, high difficulty.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by mezuki View Post
      Orochimaru medium difficulty
      only way he loses is by plot
      whole series is plot
       
           

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      m.....nah i wont entertain this one.
       
           

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      Did you steal this or... did you have this ready? LOL Nice work. *****.
      thanks. I made this thread a few days ago.
       
           

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tazzilla88 View Post
      So here's what I think working under the the ideas provided by the databook. Their prowess in ninjutsu is the same albeit in they are strong in different areas. She is by far better at taijutsu in comparison to him. He is much better at casting genjutsu. They are of equal intellect. He is a whole tier faster than her. She has more stamina than him. He performs hand seals faster than she does.
      • Attack Prevention Technique: is pointless if Tsunade goes ahead and punches the surface Orochimaru has blended into
      • Binding Snake Glare Spell: Her natural strength was great enough to lift Gamabunta's sword, so ripping snakes shouldn't cause too much problems.
      • Body Flame Technique- Too slow and where would he go?
      • Body Shedding- Actually this is very useful. Orochimaru's body was healthy when Tsunade punched him before but he could not shed his skin because of his arms. So he had to quit the fight. Now he can afford being hit by Tsunade but apparently this jutsu takes a lot of chakra.
      • Five Elements Seal- Would require she had an even numbered seal on to be effective.
      • Formation of Ten Thousand Snakes- Problematic however this technique can be cancelled out by heavenly foot of Pain if acted upon immediately.
      • Gathering of Snakes isn't useful because of the nature of Tsunade's attacks in combination with Orochimaru's soft physique technique. So she won't cut his body.
      • Hidden Shadow snake hands would work against Orochimaru if he tries to grab Tsunade with it as there'd only be a repeat like when he tried to grab her with his tongue. If he tries to poison her, her liver will regenerate and render the poison moot. Or she could use the antidote she has in her tools, which she'd probably have anyway because she worked with Oro for so long.
      • Living Corpse Reincarnation: He's not going to use this in the heat of battle but if he does Tsunade has the mental fortitude to attack while impaled, to attack with stomach and respiratory muscles cut, and to overcome a phobia in addition to her precise chakra control I see her breaking free. The obvious counter to this argument is Orochimaru has a 5 in genjutsu and she only has a 3. This is true but she also has better chakra control. It was stated that healing jutus require a lot of chakra and she managed to heal a whole village, while keeping up her transformation technique, and she had summoned Katsuyu which as we've seen with Jiraiya and Naruto large summons take considerable chakra. In the war she has healed her stomach twice (Susanoo Sword and 3 Yasaka Magatamas) and used creation rebirth to heal the wounds from the heavenly transfer technique, in addition to healing the other kages, and breaking through Susanoo and Madara's mokuton clone. Additionally it was also stated that Medical jutsu requires precise chakra control because if the chakra is not controlled effectively the patient can be killed or the justu is ineffective and Tsunade is hailed as the greatest living medic.
      • Summoning Gate and Triple Summoning Gate Rashomon: Kiba and Akamaru put a dent in the single gate in Part I. Tsunade breaks through it.
      • Sword of Kusanagi: Longsword of the Sky- Tsunade needs only grab the sword. As long as it doesn't decapitate her she'll survive if she can regrow vital organs in her abdomen then she should be able to regrow limbs and digits.
      • Temporary Paralysis Technique- Iirc Genin Sasuke and Sakura overcame this technique.
      • Wind Release: Great Breakthrough -If Tsunade is using her chakra to stay on the ground like she did when Pein attacked the village (she was using it to counter shinra tensei) then I see her receiving injuries similar to the heavenly transfer technique which she'd heal.
      • Eight Branches is nothing but very large taijutsu taijutsu. Tsunade would only need to punch the heads as they attack and the damage recieved with byakougou.
      • Then there is Manda and Katsuya. Katsuya would prove useful against the 8 branches technique. Manda also had no jutsus he could bite and coil. For that reason he'd be defeated as well.
      • Body Pathway Derangement could be countered by perhaps a raiton cloak which Oro does not have and his taijutsu and stamina is less than Tsunade's so he could get caught by that.
      • She can fight similar to Kabuto evidenced by
        she wouldn't be able to compare their strength unless they're styles were similar. If Orochimaru got caught in a similar way to Tsunade then he would eventually need to shed his body.
      • Against her strength he would need to shed his body.
      • Against Katsuya's acid he would have to shed.

      My conclusion Tsunade would win
      Edit: The edos might cause a problem but we know Tsunade has a form of fuinjutsu as per her seal on her forehead. Given the fact that she is the oldest living Uzumaki we know with actual connections to members of her clan she probably has other sealing jutsus.
      But the edos do pose an interesting problem. Though she may be able to remove the talisman Oro used to control them when blow to their heads. At which point they'd help her.
      Wrong on a lot of points, but nice try. (bolded some)

      Oro wins mid diff, I don't know where you got that Oro can't take Tsunade's punches, he TANKED them in part 1 like a champ. Even tsunade was surprised, she wondered why he was conscious.
       
           

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      Wrong on a lot of points, but nice try. (bolded some)

      Oro wins mid diff, I don't know where you got that Oro can't take Tsunade's punches, he TANKED them in part 1 like a champ. Even tsunade was surprised, she wondered why he was conscious.
      He took one punch go back and reread Manga 163-170. He didn't tank anything. The databook says Orochimaru has less stamina than Tsunade. Aside from Orochimaru's arms what was wrong with that body before Tsunade punched him?
      If Kiba and Akamaru in Part 1 can put a dent in Rashomon why can't Tsunade break it? Last I checked her physical strength was greater.
      Tsunade is the granddaughter of Mito Uzumaki and Hashirama Senju.
      My points are all valid.
      Explain the error with sword of the sky.
       
           
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      oro takes this imo
       
           

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      Oro
       
           

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      Tsunade takes this one.
      And Tazzilla is just awesome.
       
           

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      natural(excluding all the experiments on himself) oro vs Tsunade.

      Tsunade low difficulty.
       
           

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