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    Re: Irony and my end to Itachi>Nagato/Kabuto arguments

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightbringer View Post
    That's a poor argument. You can't just say he "always" knows what to do. By that logic, he'd be the number 1 character, which he is not. He is amazing at analyzing abilities, but he needs to see those abilities first, as he did with Chibaku Tensei, etc.


    Against Kabuto, he saw what he was capable of and was on the defense. He knows that amaterasu wouldn't work because he seen how sasuke shed his skin. He didn't know Kabuto's speed until he saw him dodge an arrow from Sasuke. He used Izanami because that was the only thing he could do, but if it were 1v1. He wouldn't have seen Kabuto's speed until kabuto attacked him, rather than dodging an arrow, because Sasuke wouldn't be there and Itachi would be on defense.

    He also didn't know about the nature manipulation until Itachi got hit with it......Kabuto's speed can defeat Itachi, because Itachi would simply not be able to react that fast. Yes Itachi is fast at analyzing and hand seals, but we've never seen him have any extraordinary dodging abilities.
    my logic he is as long as he has those weapons, kabuto and pein are god tier and he body bagged both with NEW techniques and strategies

    only person who can beat him for sure is maybe madara through cancelling all his techniques being more powerful and having more battle experience
     
         

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    Re: Irony and an my end to Itachi>Nagato/Kabuto arguments

    Quote Originally Posted by VariaBossX View Post
    No i mean sasuke almost got killed by itachi's tsukiyomi. i can't say this to nagato but i will point out the reaction time for pein and itachi

    this is pein's reaction time while

    itachi's is better. plus both were using different bodies and itachi used 30% chakra to fight
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    Re: Irony and an my end to Itachi>Nagato/Kabuto arguments

    Quote Originally Posted by VariaBossX View Post
    No i mean sasuke almost got killed by itachi's tsukiyomi. i can't say this to nagato but i will point out the reaction time for pein and itachi

    this is pein's reaction time while

    itachi's is better. plus both were using different bodies and itachi used 30% chakra to fight
    I suppose that's a good point, but idk if chakra has anything to do with dodging skills....it's just reaction time, so it can be assumed that having 30% chakra in a different body would still have the same reaction time as regular itachi. But we must ask ourselves whether or not 30% chakra in a different body is harder to dodge with than 6 different bodies.
     
         

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    Re: Irony and my end to Itachi>Nagato/Kabuto arguments

    Quote Originally Posted by shogun973 View Post
    my logic he is as long as he has those weapons, kabuto and pein are god tier and he body bagged both with NEW techniques and strategies

    only person who can beat him for sure is maybe madara through cancelling all his techniques being more powerful and having more battle experience
    Well that's why I made the argument on 1v1 because in both those fights there were different factors such as him being an edo(unlimited chakra, regeneration, and sacrificing an eye doesn't matter to him since he already died) and not being 1v1
     
         

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    Re: Irony and an my end to Itachi>Nagato/Kabuto arguments

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightbringer View Post
    I suppose that's a good point, but idk if chakra has anything to do with dodging skills....it's just reaction time, so it can be assumed that having 30% chakra in a different body would still have the same reaction time as regular itachi. But we must ask ourselves whether or not 30% chakra in a different body is harder to dodge with than 6 different bodies.
    30% chakra was put into the justu (person). meaning lack 100% speed etc.
    The one thing nagato has on itachi is raw power. He has moves techs that can allow you to rule the world (like obito&Madara).
    Itachi has intellect to take on an individual with skill, like most ppl say shinra tensei and i saw crow technique than mangekyo from behind.
    Either way they both respect each other and nagato is aware how powerful itachi can be
     
         

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