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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Link to Fight: http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...=1#post9648354
    Issue: I've some doubts on his reasoning
    Your Reasoning of the Issue:

    So, I've my doubts on his reasoning to change his course of action, and the fact that I belive he would already be doing his second jutsu(Black Snow), when his reason(Which I diagree with) steps in effect. As my move was based on the fact that I wouldn't be able to be spotted within the midst of the water, of course.. So my doubt is that he would able to spot a shadow within a large thick wall of hotheated(Which most likely includes steam & water foam) water, from long-range, and a mask with shades that can block out even flashes of flash bombs(Right infront of him, more or less).

    Now that is my first doubt, now to my second. Even if you were to see me within the water, if I was to sink or not, I would still have been within the water, which makes me wonder. Why didn't you not just use the lightning in the first place, you knew I would be in the water. It's not like the water shoots me up flying through air, no - It carries me within it, meaning that simply because you spot my shadow within the water, going up or down - I could infact just be with some of the water that was shooting out to the sides(Thus why going down again whereafter the water would fall down upon me), etc. etc. And I would like to add that if you were to spot this, you would already be in the middle of your Black Snow Technique.

    Anyways, I have had some earlier issues with your moves which I decided not to take up. But this one I kind of feel the need to do so with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blizzàrd View Post
    As Blizzard witnesses a shadow in the scald not rising but sinking again, he had a plan already, making chains erupt from the ground charging the entire Scald with Lightning chakra as Chains wrap around your body, and pierce through your skin while shocking you at the same time.

    Note: Effect of Raiton will be stronger because your B-rank iron skin already took A-rank Water Scald. And I think the pressure of Scald is enough to burst you up and throw you off balance, but since your earth is so fast, you won't go much in the mid-air. Chains can wrap you when you are coming down, and create a shocking effect as soon as they enter the water scald. Also as the skin breaks you will feel burning water. Lastly I don't think Added weight technique acts as resistant or shield to chains or boiling water.

    [Raiton: Sono Ikazuchi Tentei Kusari] Lightning Release: The Chains of lightning God
    Type: Attack
    Rank: S
    Range: Short-Long
    Chakra Cost: 40
    Damage Points: 80
    Description: During the battle user channels its lightning chakra as a long stream of thick chakra threads in the ground below him/her through his/her feet. These threads tear the ground, coming out as lightning chains and wrapping both legs of the opponent to shock them or restrict their motion. An additional chain could be manipulated to stab the opponent when he/she is fully tied up.
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    ♦ No S-Rank or above Lightening jutsu in the next turn.
    ♦ Can only be taught by -Blizzard-
     
         

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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gobi Gobletsson View Post
    Link to Fight: http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...=1#post9648354
    Issue: I've some doubts on his reasoning
    Your Reasoning of the Issue:

    So, I've my doubts on his reasoning to change his course of action, and the fact that I belive he would already be doing his second jutsu(Black Snow), when his reason(Which I diagree with) steps in effect. As my move was based on the fact that I wouldn't be able to be spotted within the midst of the water, of course.. So my doubt is that he would able to spot a shadow within a large thick wall of hotheated(Which most likely includes steam & water foam) water, from long-range, and a mask with shades that can block out even flashes of flash bombs(Right infront of him, more or less).

    Now that is my first doubt, now to my second. Even if you were to see me within the water, if I was to sink or not, I would still have been within the water, which makes me wonder. Why didn't you not just use the lightning in the first place, you knew I would be in the water. It's not like the water shoots me up flying through air, no - It carries me within it, meaning that simply because you spot my shadow within the water, going up or down - I could infact just be with some of the water that was shooting out to the sides(Thus why going down again whereafter the water would fall down upon me), etc. etc. And I would like to add that if you were to spot this, you would already be in the middle of your Black Snow Technique.

    Anyways, I have had some earlier issues with your moves which I decided not to take up. But this one I kind of feel the need to do so with.

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    Your Reasoning of the Issue: Well the fact that its a burning water it acts like a jet, meaning you are not totally in the water but a blasted upwards with the pressure while being burned. The fact that I couldn't see you blasting upwards is enough for me to actually carry my move by changing plan not to make it snow but to make sure you end up dead first. Secondly, even though the Jutsu said you could use it to crash down on the opponent, you could also make it erupt so that it acts as a wall driving you up. Take this video for example, the very first action of water technique is what this technique it, but it comes with burning hot water; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKE4hHnDdok

    Now since this technique does shot you upwards naturally due to the pressure, I wonder if I have to reason with your second doubt. You were not dead, I had to made sure you die, what would be better than a lightning water combination? A simple plan carried on to ensure victory is the sense that my character used.
     
         

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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Link to Fight: [Grand RP Tournament #3] Sindy vs. Scaze
    Winner: Scaze
     
         

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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    Link to Fight: http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=292809

    Issue: His defense and its ability to physically stop my attack.

    Your Reasoning of the Issue: I don't argue that I'll be set ablaze, however, given the timing of the fire technique (starting 1.5 meters away) I don't see this happening until I reach him, and given that fire isn't a physical defense, I don't think it would stop me from punching him. I wouldn't really have time to change my course of action, so it would come down to whether I could punch through the fire or not, which given its intangibility shouldn't be a problem. My view is that I hit him as my armor gets lit on fire, preventing him from doing the remainder of his move, while I also can't do the remainder of my move.

    So it would be my turn covered in fire as he staggers from the punches.
    Your reasoning of the issue:Fire is my main speciality,enabling me to perform it faster than any of my other elements.He doesn't have a speed boost or anything,so it gives me plenty of time.Once my fire starts to form and he gets close enough,he'd start getting heavily burned mainly due to the wind armor.Once he starts getting severely burned,he wouldn't be able to concentrate chakra for his other jutsu so the jutsu never happens.I also don't think he'd be able to thrust forward after getting caught on fire mainly because he was actually running towards me,not propelled or shot himself towards me.Also the wind bubbles under his feet would catch on fire and heavily burn his feet.
     
         

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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    Link to Fight: http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=292809

    Issue: His defense and its ability to physically stop my attack.

    Your Reasoning of the Issue: I don't argue that I'll be set ablaze, however, given the timing of the fire technique (starting 1.5 meters away) I don't see this happening until I reach him, and given that fire isn't a physical defense, I don't think it would stop me from punching him. I wouldn't really have time to change my course of action, so it would come down to whether I could punch through the fire or not, which given its intangibility shouldn't be a problem. My view is that I hit him as my armor gets lit on fire, preventing him from doing the remainder of his move, while I also can't do the remainder of my move.

    So it would be my turn covered in fire as he staggers from the punches.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gobi Gobletsson View Post
    Link to Fight: http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...=1#post9648354
    Issue: I've some doubts on his reasoning
    Your Reasoning of the Issue:

    So, I've my doubts on his reasoning to change his course of action, and the fact that I belive he would already be doing his second jutsu(Black Snow), when his reason(Which I diagree with) steps in effect. As my move was based on the fact that I wouldn't be able to be spotted within the midst of the water, of course.. So my doubt is that he would able to spot a shadow within a large thick wall of hotheated(Which most likely includes steam & water foam) water, from long-range, and a mask with shades that can block out even flashes of flash bombs(Right infront of him, more or less).

    Now that is my first doubt, now to my second. Even if you were to see me within the water, if I was to sink or not, I would still have been within the water, which makes me wonder. Why didn't you not just use the lightning in the first place, you knew I would be in the water. It's not like the water shoots me up flying through air, no - It carries me within it, meaning that simply because you spot my shadow within the water, going up or down - I could infact just be with some of the water that was shooting out to the sides(Thus why going down again whereafter the water would fall down upon me), etc. etc. And I would like to add that if you were to spot this, you would already be in the middle of your Black Snow Technique.

    Anyways, I have had some earlier issues with your moves which I decided not to take up. But this one I kind of feel the need to do so with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blizzàrd View Post
    Your Reasoning of the Issue: Well the fact that its a burning water it acts like a jet, meaning you are not totally in the water but a blasted upwards with the pressure while being burned. The fact that I couldn't see you blasting upwards is enough for me to actually carry my move by changing plan not to make it snow but to make sure you end up dead first. Secondly, even though the Jutsu said you could use it to crash down on the opponent, you could also make it erupt so that it acts as a wall driving you up. Take this video for example, the very first action of water technique is what this technique it, but it comes with burning hot water; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKE4hHnDdok

    Now since this technique does shot you upwards naturally due to the pressure, I wonder if I have to reason with your second doubt. You were not dead, I had to made sure you die, what would be better than a lightning water combination? A simple plan carried on to ensure victory is the sense that my character used.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sindy View Post
    Link to Fight: [Grand RP Tournament #3] Sindy vs. Scaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Igneel View Post
    Your reasoning of the issue:Fire is my main speciality,enabling me to perform it faster than any of my other elements.He doesn't have a speed boost or anything,so it gives me plenty of time.Once my fire starts to form and he gets close enough,he'd start getting heavily burned mainly due to the wind armor.Once he starts getting severely burned,he wouldn't be able to concentrate chakra for his other jutsu so the jutsu never happens.I also don't think he'd be able to thrust forward after getting caught on fire mainly because he was actually running towards me,not propelled or shot himself towards me.Also the wind bubbles under his feet would catch on fire and heavily burn his feet.
    All checked
     
         

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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Link to Fight: [RP Tournament Round #3] Serpent vs Selendrile
    Issue: Invalid Counter
    Your Reasoning of the Issue: I used a F-ranked Raiton Jutsu in which 1,000 Birds of Raiton will strike down upon his location, shocking him to death. (Chidori Perfect Form) Now it is my understanding that these birds are fast as they are well Lightning. In my opponents counter after seeing me release this attack, my opponent jumps backwards and draws blood from his thumb and then whips it on his palms and claps his hands together summons a bird. He then says that this bird will "outpaces the lightning birds" as it fly's into the sky. Now, I do not believe that his bird will be able to fly faster then my attack and Since he is flying up and my birds will be coming down on him wouldn't he be flying into them?
     
         

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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Serpent View Post
    Link to Fight: [RP Tournament Round #3] Serpent vs Selendrile
    Issue: Invalid Counter
    Your Reasoning of the Issue: I used a F-ranked Raiton Jutsu in which 1,000 Birds of Raiton will strike down upon his location, shocking him to death. (Chidori Perfect Form) Now it is my understanding that these birds are fast as they are well Lightning. In my opponents counter after seeing me release thiattack, my opponent jumps backwards and draws blood from his thumb and then whips it on his palms and claps his hands together summons a bird. He then says that this bird will "outpaces the lightning birds" as it fly's into the sky. Now, I do not believe that his bird will be able to fly faster then my attack and Since he is flying up and my birds will be ming down on him wouldn't he e flying into them?
    Your reasoning off the issue: First off he only mentioned strike down, a very vague term with no expansion to exactly how the birds travel. However, I stated in my move that I move backwards, and up. So his birds coming down from the front would even have less of a chance to hit me, since I am moving in a total opposite angle and direction. I think of it like a "V" shape. The left half of the letter is the birds coming down, and the right is me going upwards and back. (except at a less sharp angle) Second, I have already increased my distance in my first move by jumping backwards. I further increase my distance as I see the initial flash of lightning which would be the formation of the Chidori. The Heron flies backwards and up, once again increasing my distance. I'm fairly confident I have ample time due to my distance and my summon's ability to fly. Also biting my thumb and clapping my hands doesnt really take much time at all..
     
         
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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Link to fight: http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=292788
    Issue: Time limit reached as today, the threads are due to be checked ^^ ^^
    Your Reasoning of the Issue: N/A
     
         

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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Link to the Fight: http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=292768
    Issue: Past the time limit with no clear victor
    Your reasoning of the Issue: Grizzly Bear.
     
         

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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Link To Fight: http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=292826
    Issue: Time limit of seven day has passed.
    Your Reasoning Of The Issue: He told me it was the checking day, today.
     
         
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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Link to fight: http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=292718
    Issue: Past time limit, no victor claimed.
    Your Reasoning of the Issue: N/A
     
         
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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Link to fight: http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=296677
    Issue: Chidori Nagashi
    Your Reasoning of the Issue: As far as I know Chidori Nagashi is an unfocused current that has no cutting/tearing/shattering properties. It has been proven in more occasions that it can't tear through earth but only cancel the chakra if focused into the earth. I believe same goes for ice.
     
         

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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by McRazor View Post
    Link to fight: http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=296677
    Issue: Chidori Nagashi
    Your Reasoning of the Issue: As far as I know Chidori Nagashi is an unfocused current that has no cutting/tearing/shattering properties. It has been proven in more occasions that it can't tear through earth but only cancel the chakra if focused into the earth. I believe same goes for ice.
    We've seen Nagashi destroy wood in the manga here:
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/308/4

    Can be seen in anime here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI6-n5kpOx0

    As you can see, it destroys Yamato's wooden pillar. As long as I've been on this site, nagashi has been fully capable of doing what I used it for. So if that's no longer the case, I must have missed it. If it can destroy wood, I believe it can shatter ice, as wood is a more durable material than ice.
     
         

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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by McRazor View Post
    Link to fight: http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=296677
    Issue: Chidori Nagashi
    Your Reasoning of the Issue: As far as I know Chidori Nagashi is an unfocused current that has no cutting/tearing/shattering properties. It has been proven in more occasions that it can't tear through earth but only cancel the chakra if focused into the earth. I believe same goes for ice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Typhon View Post
    We've seen Nagashi destroy wood in the manga here:
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/308/4

    Can be seen in anime here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI6-n5kpOx0

    As you can see, it destroys Yamato's wooden pillar. As long as I've been on this site, nagashi has been fully capable of doing what I used it for. So if that's no longer the case, I must have missed it. If it can destroy wood, I believe it can shatter ice, as wood is a more durable material than ice.
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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Link to Fight: [RP Tournament Round #4] Serpent VS Gobi G.
    Issue: Genjutsu Release
    Your Reasoning of the Issue: It is my understanding that when releasing a Genjutsu though the method of creating a surge of chakra in your body the Technique you use will need to be at least one rank higher for Elemental Ninjutsu and two ranks higher for raw chakra techniques. I placed my opponent in a B-ranked Genjutsu, in which my opponent then released an A-ranked surge of raw chakra. I do not believe that is enough to break the Genjutsu.. Here is a link to the Genjutsu rules explaining my reasoning. [Genjutsu Release Restrictions]
     
         

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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Serpent View Post
    Link to Fight: [RP Tournament Round #4] Serpent VS Gobi G.
    Issue: Genjutsu Release
    Your Reasoning of the Issue: It is my understanding that when releasing a Genjutsu though the method of creating a surge of chakra in your body the Technique you use will need to be at least one rank higher for Elemental Ninjutsu and two ranks higher for raw chakra techniques. I placed my opponent in a B-ranked Genjutsu, in which my opponent then released an A-ranked surge of raw chakra. I do not believe that is enough to break the Genjutsu.. Here is a link to the Genjutsu rules explaining my reasoning. [Genjutsu Release Restrictions]
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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Link to Fight: http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=296694
    Issue: Doubts on the usage of some things/Needs clarification
    Your Reasoning of the Issue:

    If I'm not mistaken, your technique requires a hand sign as shown in the manga. Sasuke forms a hand sign and prepares to cast his opponent under said illusion, you're using on me.

    A tad after, Shi is put under the effects of the genjutsu;

    This is shown in chapter 462. So, as far as I can see the technique requires a hand sign. Yet, being squeezed inbetween the two walls the moment you're reversed summoned into the toad's stomach, I would say you're unable to move, thus unable to form the hand sign. And even though if it didn't require a hand sign, I doubt you would be able to cast a genjtusu from your location, on me, whilst being made into mashed potatoes. But even if that would be possible, if I'm not mistaken, my Curse Seal is still activated, and is still pouring the sen-chakra into me, thus breaking the illusion the moment I'm placed in it. (Thus I would just procced with my water technique)

    Now even if that was all cool and deemed valid. I have another problem, as I believe that when you stab your fingers(You should however be restrained, and not able to move a finger.) into the flesh of the toad, to electrify it. I would say that you also electrify the liquids(On the flesh walls) of the toad, which would further electrify yourself. Since your lightning technique doesn't work as a chidori(Which can be used under water, without electrifying the water source), but is an actually spreading surge of lightning which shocks, the liquid should conduct some of this, as you're trying to spread it throughout the toad. Though I would also only say it spreads short-range around you, and not throughout the entire toad, as it is only short-range - Your technique, that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpent View Post
    About the timeframe, I am able to see and perceive things 3x slower then what they really are, basically slow motion. normally just because you can see it happening doesn't mean you can react to it, however I also have Jeet Kun Do. This allows be to React with split second reflexes up to 3x faster then normal.. Timeframe was never broken as I allowed your attack to proceed, I only canceled it like you did mine in the last turn.

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    As Sasuke is suddenly trapped in the dark (As seen in Anime it's Dark) being squished by to mounds of flesh he see's your Chakra source and without even thinking about it reacts by placing you within another Genjutsu. (Please note that I have mastered the ways of Jeet Kun Do, this gives me split second reactions) This Genjutsu will turn the area dark (unnoticed by you as we are already in the dark) as a figure will rise in front of you, this will then bind you with threads as you attempt your Suiton Ninjutsu.

    (Doujutsu: Chuubo no Yuuku) – Eye Technique: Paralyzing Fear
    Rank: B
    Type: Supplementary
    Range: Short – Mid
    Chakra cost: 20
    Damage points: N/A
    Description: The user will cast a Genjutsu upon the target in which they will see a shadowy figure appear infront of them bearing the Sharingan and then the figure will grow to an enormous size over shadowing the target in pitch-black darkness. The figure will then grab hold of the target and then will cover them in black threads, leaving them paralyzed for a period of time. (This was shown by sasuke against Shi)
    Note: Must have tomoe 3 to use and paralyzing effects last 1 turn.


    Sasuke then stabs his hand in one of the mounds of Flesh, this will release an electrical surge of raiton that will violently shock the toads internal organs causing organ failure. This will in turn stop the squeezing from the stomach of this beast (It's okay if you don't want to hurt your toady friend.. because I do ^^)

    Lightning Release: Internal Lightning Shock (Naibuteki raikou dageki)
    Rank: S
    Type: Attack
    Range: Short
    Chakra Cost: 40
    Damage Points: 80
    Descriptions: The user charges a large amount of raiton chakra into their fingers they then stab their fingers into an opponent at close range releasing the raiton chakra violently shocking the opponent's internal organs causing organ failure
    ~Can only be used once per battle~
    ~Can only be used by me and who I teach~


    The Organ Failure will happen at an accelerated rate as it is a direct blow, Sasuke will then Release the second state of his curse seal, this will turn Sasuke's skin dark grey, lengthened his hair without losing its style, blue venom lipstick will appear on his lips and hand-shaped wings on his back that gave him the ability to fly and hover. The wings will push and lift against the dead flash mounds and allow Sasuke to lift up and fly/hover within the stomach as he keeps a close eye on you.

    (Fuuinjutsu: Juin Jutsu) - Sealing Technique: Cursed Seal
    Rank :A
    Type:Supplementary
    Range:Short
    Chakra Cost:30
    Damage Points:N/A(-5 per turn to target if they us it and target can be self)
    Description:This jutsu creates a seal that gives its target more chakra and more strenght.(Curse Mark of Heaven: +10 Nin - +5 Tai. Curse Mark of Earth: +5 Nin - +10 Taijutsu)
    Note:Level 2 is double the gain and the damage to the one with the seal)


    What I did like to note out as well is, that even though you're a Jeet Kun Do master, user or so forth - It doesn't allow you to channel chakra faster. It merely increases your reaction time in close combat.
     
         

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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gobi Gobletsson View Post
    Link to Fight: http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=296694
    Issue: Doubts on the usage of some things/Needs clarification
    Your Reasoning of the Issue:

    If I'm not mistaken, your technique requires a hand sign as shown in the manga. Sasuke forms a hand sign and prepares to cast his opponent under said illusion, you're using on me.

    A tad after, Shi is put under the effects of the genjutsu;

    This is shown in chapter 462. So, as far as I can see the technique requires a hand sign. Yet, being squeezed inbetween the two walls the moment you're reversed summoned into the toad's stomach, I would say you're unable to move, thus unable to form the hand sign. And even though if it didn't require a hand sign, I doubt you would be able to cast a genjtusu from your location, on me, whilst being made into mashed potatoes. But even if that would be possible, if I'm not mistaken, my Curse Seal is still activated, and is still pouring the sen-chakra into me, thus breaking the illusion the moment I'm placed in it. (Thus I would just procced with my water technique)

    Now even if that was all cool and deemed valid. I have another problem, as I believe that when you stab your fingers(You should however be restrained, and not able to move a finger.) into the flesh of the toad, to electrify it. I would say that you also electrify the liquids(On the flesh walls) of the toad, which would further electrify yourself. Since your lightning technique doesn't work as a chidori(Which can be used under water, without electrifying the water source), but is an actually spreading surge of lightning which shocks, the liquid should conduct some of this, as you're trying to spread it throughout the toad. Though I would also only say it spreads short-range around you, and not throughout the entire toad, as it is only short-range - Your technique, that is.

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    What I did like to note out as well is, that even though you're a Jeet Kun Do master, user or so forth - It doesn't allow you to channel chakra faster. It merely increases your reaction time in close combat.
    Your Reasoning of the Issue: When you take 2 pages from the Manga and piece them together as you did it does make it look as though it needs the handseal, however in the chapter it appears to me that Sasuke is focused on Raikage when he makes the handseal, then Juugo does his attack. this in turn causes Sasuke to stop is attack against Raikage and move to a different Target. a lot happens in between the 2 pages that you posted. It can't be undermanned if the Handseal made before Juugo's attack was for the Genjutsu used after the attack. Here is the Link to the Chapter for a better understanding then what Gobi posted [Chapter Link]

    Now, about Chakra forming, are you saying my first move which is the Genjutsu is unable to be used before your second attack? It's my understanding that Genjutsu happen very fast and since I am reacting to being summoned into a toad I believe it would happen before you focus and form your water tech. I have a faster reaction time thous I would start focusing chakra before you.

    About my Raiton attack, by your logic I should always be shocked by being in contact with my opponent when I use it. wouldn't having my hand in them make me get shocked then? no because the technique is designed to only shock the opponent. Now about the range, the initial attack is short range because I need to drive my hand into the opponent. but the Jutsu it'self is intended to target the organs of the opponent. In this case the organs are larger, but the same effect should apply. If Scorps happens to disagree with me on this, the area that I am in should die and I will still be able to free myself as I did.
     
         

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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Gobi Gobletsson View Post
    Link to Fight: http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=296694
    Issue: Doubts on the usage of some things/Needs clarification
    Your Reasoning of the Issue:

    If I'm not mistaken, your technique requires a hand sign as shown in the manga. Sasuke forms a hand sign and prepares to cast his opponent under said illusion, you're using on me.

    A tad after, Shi is put under the effects of the genjutsu;

    This is shown in chapter 462. So, as far as I can see the technique requires a hand sign. Yet, being squeezed inbetween the two walls the moment you're reversed summoned into the toad's stomach, I would say you're unable to move, thus unable to form the hand sign. And even though if it didn't require a hand sign, I doubt you would be able to cast a genjtusu from your location, on me, whilst being made into mashed potatoes. But even if that would be possible, if I'm not mistaken, my Curse Seal is still activated, and is still pouring the sen-chakra into me, thus breaking the illusion the moment I'm placed in it. (Thus I would just procced with my water technique)

    Now even if that was all cool and deemed valid. I have another problem, as I believe that when you stab your fingers(You should however be restrained, and not able to move a finger.) into the flesh of the toad, to electrify it. I would say that you also electrify the liquids(On the flesh walls) of the toad, which would further electrify yourself. Since your lightning technique doesn't work as a chidori(Which can be used under water, without electrifying the water source), but is an actually spreading surge of lightning which shocks, the liquid should conduct some of this, as you're trying to spread it throughout the toad. Though I would also only say it spreads short-range around you, and not throughout the entire toad, as it is only short-range - Your technique, that is.

    Serpent's move
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    What I did like to note out as well is, that even though you're a Jeet Kun Do master, user or so forth - It doesn't allow you to channel chakra faster. It merely increases your reaction time in close combat.
    Quote Originally Posted by Serpent View Post
    Your Reasoning of the Issue: When you take 2 pages from the Manga and piece them together as you did it does make it look as though it needs the handseal, however in the chapter it appears to me that Sasuke is focused on Raikage when he makes the handseal, then Juugo does his attack. this in turn causes Sasuke to stop is attack against Raikage and move to a different Target. a lot happens in between the 2 pages that you posted. It can't be undermanned if the Handseal made before Juugo's attack was for the Genjutsu used after the attack. Here is the Link to the Chapter for a better understanding then what Gobi posted [Chapter Link]

    Now, about Chakra forming, are you saying my first move which is the Genjutsu is unable to be used before your second attack? It's my understanding that Genjutsu happen very fast and since I am reacting to being summoned into a toad I believe it would happen before you focus and form your water tech. I have a faster reaction time thous I would start focusing chakra before you.

    About my Raiton attack, by your logic I should always be shocked by being in contact with my opponent when I use it. wouldn't having my hand in them make me get shocked then? no because the technique is designed to only shock the opponent. Now about the range, the initial attack is short range because I need to drive my hand into the opponent. but the Jutsu it'self is intended to target the organs of the opponent. In this case the organs are larger, but the same effect should apply. If Scorps happens to disagree with me on this, the area that I am in should die and I will still be able to free myself as I did.
    Checked.

    Btw, to all participants, threads will be closed today later on (about...7 hours or so) and judged by Me, Vincent, dante and Xylon (whomever is available at the time). For this stage we'll do a 3 vote judging as no clear winner was found so far in any match.
     
         

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    Re: [Grand RP Tournament] Xmas Edition - Discussion

    Link to the fight: [RP Tournament Semi-Finals] Serpent VS Lord of Kaos
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