[Debate] Do you support the Westboro church?

[Stencil]

I guess this is my second 'controversial' topic I've posted in the general discussion.

I just watched this

If you're bothered to watch it, good for you, if you don't, I'm sure you can find a summary somewhere.

What I'm asking is do you support them? Is what they're doing right? If so, why/why not?

Personally I think they are extremists who don't know how to live life properly.

They kind of remind me of the people in the churches from Red State, if you've ever watched the movie you'll know what I mean.

[Deadai]

No way they on the top of the crazy tree
supa irrational bunch they are.
:silly:

[Kage Jake]

I've seen this before.

What I'm asking is do you support them?

-No.

Is what they're doing right? If so, why/why not?

- No it i not right. Why? they have no right to force others to believe in what they believe in. It is our right as americans to have the freedom of religion. They are the christian version of the islam extremist accept with out the violent acts. You don't see athiest, gays, people of other religions/preferences with the right principles being this hostile toward them. They need to shut up and keep their nose in the book.

[DeadManWonderLand]

Why would you ask if spreading hate is alright ? This group of people are expressing completely unprovoked and needless hatred towards other individuals trying to force them to change there way of life because of how they live their own lives. And you need clarification to know its not alright ? Do you think people have the right to tell others what to do ? Do you believe others should be condemned by others for living their own life ? If you truly believe everyone is equal and also believe in true equal rights and the persuit to happiness you would not have to ask this question you would know right away that what they are doing is something that they have no right to do.Just by asking if they are doing something right is inviting the idea that that kind of behavior is acceptable.And if you cannot discern the difference your just as horrible as them.

[Stencil]

Why would you ask if spreading hate is alright ? This group of people are expressing completely unprovoked and needless hatred towards other individuals trying to force them to change there way of life because of how they live their own lives. And you need clarification to know its not alright ? Do you think people have the right to tell others what to do ? Do you believe others should be condemned by others for living their own life ? If you truly believe everyone is equal and also believe in true equal rights and the persuit to happiness you would not have to ask this question you would know right away that what they are doing is something that they have no right to do.Just by asking if they are doing something right is inviting the idea that that kind of behavior is acceptable.And if you cannot discern the difference your just as horrible as them.

Some people don't believe that it is spreading hate. I'm simply asking people how they feel and what they think about it, I gathered the reactions would 95% be like this, don't bash me for it, I'm just interested.

As I said I don't support them either.

[YowYan]

seen a lot of them. They are one of the dumbest shit stains i've ever seen. Total and utter brainwash for the kids also.. sad bunch

[cptenn94]

simply...people are to offended at all sorts of stuff....they love to view people with stereo types......and then there are the extremeist people.....those people are no different than any other extremeists.....it sickens me to see these people causing Jesus and God to be portrayed in a way that is not accurate.....as i quote from Jesus"he who has not sinned may throw the first stone"....these people forget that and throw verbal and other such stones.....the KEY THING TO CHRISTIANITY is to love all others....you may hate the actions but you are to love the person.....you are to treat others well, and to help those who need your help...granted that is really difficult to do, and nobody is perfect....but that is the teaching of Jesus.....these extremists who run around teaching about what ways you will go to hell, are not promoting Jesus teaching......which is simply to get people to come to God through living a good example.....people should be compelled to see that there could be a God by seeing how happy and kind etc the christian is.....


to you people who are like "religion needs to stop shoving itself in all of our faces".....i agree that stuff like in that video is extreme and shouldnt have to be shoved in peoples faces....but dont take that as the standard.....many of the people that bug you to become part of a religion are doing so because they care about you....whether you believe in what they do or not, look at it from their perspective.....they see that as far as they know only people who believe in the religion make it to eternal paradise, and avoid eternal hell.....so they give up their time to try to help you make it to eternal paradise and to be happy.....if you dont think that way you arent forced to....it is just the same as when a friend or relative gives you a gift you dont really want.....you may not like what it is but you are grate ful for them caring about you......


simply christanity is about love peace and helping others.....not condemming others....that is Gods job to decide who is worthy and who isnt.....so the people who condemn others are completely wrong



sincerly,
A Catholic who is religious, and who understands what it really was that Jesus taught....




(ps do realize that sometimes you nonbelievers, who complain about us shoving our religion down your throats do the same....you sometimes do the same, and shove the belief that there is no being on a higher plane down our throats to you know.....

also even though i am religious i understand that science isnt to just be thrown out the window....my saying is "science explains how something works, and religion explains why" just realize that a lot of science is based on theories, and would only take 1 major discovery to have to rewrite it.....you should be able to see that from a scientific perspective.....let me give you an example.....it was almost universly thought that the earth was flat, or the sun and universe revolved around the earth.....yet it was discovered that the earth is indeed round and the earth revolves around the sun.....the same thing could happen....



be open minded, about what to think and beleive......consider there could be a higher power, and consider there isnt.....but consider the unlikely as something that could be possible(but not likely)

[Stencil]

seen a lot of them. They are one of the dumbest shit stains i've ever seen. Total and utter brainwash for the kids also.. sad bunch

My opinion in a nutshell.

[Typhon]

Freedom of Speech is a double-edged sword at times. Have to take the bad with the good.

You know what they say, I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

[AngryRock]

No way.

[Huang]

I have NO respect for these people, whatsoever!! Not their oppinion, not their beliefs, they're nothing but a bigotted social club.

[~WastelandSociety~]

simply...people are to offended at all sorts of stuff....they love to view people with stereo types......and then there are the extremeist people.....those people are no different than any other extremeists.....it sickens me to see these people causing Jesus and God to be portrayed in a way that is not accurate.....as i quote from Jesus"he who has not sinned may throw the first stone"....these people forget that and throw verbal and other such stones.....the KEY THING TO CHRISTIANITY is to love all others....you may hate the actions but you are to love the person.....you are to treat others well, and to help those who need your help...granted that is really difficult to do, and nobody is perfect....but that is the teaching of Jesus.....these extremists who run around teaching about what ways you will go to hell, are not promoting Jesus teaching......which is simply to get people to come to God through living a good example.....people should be compelled to see that there could be a God by seeing how happy and kind etc the christian is.....


to you people who are like "religion needs to stop shoving itself in all of our faces".....i agree that stuff like in that video is extreme and shouldnt have to be shoved in peoples faces....but dont take that as the standard.....many of the people that bug you to become part of a religion are doing so because they care about you....whether you believe in what they do or not, look at it from their perspective.....they see that as far as they know only people who believe in the religion make it to eternal paradise, and avoid eternal hell.....so they give up their time to try to help you make it to eternal paradise and to be happy.....if you dont think that way you arent forced to....it is just the same as when a friend or relative gives you a gift you dont really want.....you may not like what it is but you are grate ful for them caring about you......


simply christanity is about love peace and helping others.....not condemming others....that is Gods job to decide who is worthy and who isnt.....so the people who condemn others are completely wrong



sincerly,
A Catholic who is religious, and who understands what it really was that Jesus taught....




(ps do realize that sometimes you nonbelievers, who complain about us shoving our religion down your throats do the same....you sometimes do the same, and shove the belief that there is no being on a higher plane down our throats to you know.....

also even though i am religious i understand that science isnt to just be thrown out the window....my saying is "science explains how something works, and religion explains why" just realize that a lot of science is based on theories, and would only take 1 major discovery to have to rewrite it.....you should be able to see that from a scientific perspective.....let me give you an example.....it was almost universly thought that the earth was flat, or the sun and universe revolved around the earth.....yet it was discovered that the earth is indeed round and the earth revolves around the sun.....the same thing could happen....



be open minded, about what to think and beleive......consider there could be a higher power, and consider there isnt.....but consider the unlikely as something that could be possible(but not likely)

I agree to what you said.

[GEIxBattleRifle]

Brainwashed to the extreme and they wonder why people try to shove the evolution concept down their throats

[GEIxBattleRifle]

^ People done that before were they claim they hit someone by ''accident'' even though they had the full intention of hitting them in the first place. If someone wants to run you over with their car you done something very wrong usually not always the case though. In this video I can see it happening

[Evil Boy Genius]

Really don't like them.

[BMN]

They came to my High School more than a few times with their messages. 90% of all the people who went up to talk to them did it to troll them. Gotta say, nothing beats trolling religious nuts xD

[Stencil]

They came to my High School more than a few times with their messages. 90% of all the people who went up to talk to them did it to troll them. Gotta say, nothing beats trolling religious nuts xD

Haha really? That's what I'd do, troll their shit

[Stencil]

If by troll you mean stab then yes that's what I would do, just a friendly stab in the chest.

Or a hammer, knock their teeth out, just a friendly pummel to the jaw.

[Germanicus]

There are certain people who I cannot possibly agree with. People of differing political views I can tolerate. Other tastes, sure. This level of intolerance doesn't belong anywhere. It's not about 'religion' at this point. Religion is supposed to preach love, not hate. This was invented by a sociopath with a bone to pick, with everyone who wasn't under his dominion.