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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    Back in the day where the REAL ninjas existed aka shinobi. Danzo is the closest as it can get to that and that's how the real shinobi acts and would do anything for their hidden village but its true he was shown as a shitty character and that's how the true ninjas were. But naruto has different massages
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    Quote Originally Posted by N1nken View Post
    The politician aspect comes from the fact that the Narutoverse is a society of ninja. Politics have to come in to play at some point, espcially with one leader governing over a huge system, and Danzo was effectively a cabinet member. He had the ideals of a realistic ninja and over time it progressed into a warhawk mentality.

    If it's by look that you're referring to, if that's the case, then both ANBU and ROOT are realistic ninjas. And before Danzo became an old man, he was probably more like that.

    All-in-all, it's a matter of ethics and what you believe. I once dated a girl who was a child of divorce. She believes that even if she gets married, her happiness won't last because it might/probably will end in divorce. Is she wrong or crazy for that? No, not necessarily. Because she grew up with that, it's her viewpoint and it's what she'll always think. Likewise, Danzo even said when he was young that both his father and grandfather died in battle and that self-sacrifice is a ninja's duty. He's not wrong for saying that because he had to grow up with that experience and it's what he had to believe in, it became his mentality. Do you think Danzo's ideals and morals are wrong? Of course you do, your viewpoints and morals growing up oppose everything that Danzo stands for. Do I believe that it's wrong? Yeah, I do. I grew up with morals that oppose Danzo's as well, it's just that I sympathize with him and can understand where he's coming from. I don't agree with it, but then again I don't hate Atheists despite them not believing in what I believe. A matter of ethics.
    Awesome answer bro I feel the same way.
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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    well, i guess this is a hate on danzo thread but well everyone has their own opinion.....yes Danzo was harsh and his methods of preserving and strenghtening his village could be argued but he was a true patriot and he did not want the world for himself (you are wrong at this point).the 3rd hokage knew his methods were effictive ,if anything.
    yes danzo was kinda extremist at this but hey if eveyone was like naruto(which i totally deny that such people can exist in real world).you really wouldn't be watching naruto...lolz

    There can be no Heros without Villains.....
    But there can be Villains without Heros :D
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    Danzo was a huge *******? You should have put spoilers infront.
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    i didn't read this thread entirely so I'm not sure if this is mentioned
    but he was suspected to be behind the attack on konoha that resulted in the hokage's death


    he just wants to be hokage and doesn't care who dies
    he wouldn't even let his anbu help during pain's invasion
     
         
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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    Danzo was doing all of those bad things for Konoha and Peace. Have you ever heard the saying "The ends justifies the means"
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    Quote Originally Posted by spade3dg View Post
    Danzo was pretty messed up but in the end he tried to repent by sealing sasuke and Obito. But once a failure always a failure.

    Erm. What about Naruto? xD jkjk
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    Danzo mean shit
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    danzo is the meaning of a shinobi's life hell..
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    Quote Originally Posted by rollin View Post
    i didn't read this thread entirely so I'm not sure if this is mentioned
    but he was suspected to be behind the attack on konoha that resulted in the hokage's death


    he just wants to be hokage and doesn't care who dies
    he wouldn't even let his anbu help during pain's invasion
    This^ exactly
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    It was obvious that Danzo was the dark side of Konoha.
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi2020 View Post
    It was obvious that Danzo was the dark side of Konoha.
    He kept talking about how he wanted to be the Hokage, but it would have been a far worse Konoha if he led it...

    Terrible, terrible things already happened to the village because of him without even leading it.
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    Quote Originally Posted by Reynfall View Post
    He kept talking about how he wanted to be the Hokage, but it would have been a far worse Konoha if he led it...

    Terrible, terrible things already happened to the village because of him without even leading it.
    And this^
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    Danzo had his own ways in protecting Konoha,I respect him even tho his ways were bad and made him have a bad reputation...
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    eh, Im not sure if everyone is looking at this from a bigger perspective. For one cannot understand an action, until one can understand the motive behind the action. Danzo made it his mission to do things in the shadows, but why? What was his motive? Even though we may not agree, he wanted to protect the leaf.

    Even in real life, there are people, who you will most likely never even hear about, that do things for their country that people will not approve. Someone may need to be assassinated to protect national security, someone may need to be interrogated and kidnapped for information. Many many things that none of us will approve of or think is morally right. But whether we accept it or not, it does happen, and for reason that we may comprehend. So don't look at it as Danzo looked out only for himself, I don't think that is the case, just look at it as, he is the one that keeps his hands dirty, so at the end of the day, you wont have to.
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    But the village didn't want a jackass. O_o so there was no need.. He wanted to be a jackass. Its not called "tough love" when you kill your own comrades smart ass. Also, me and HiddenSound are cool with each other.. soo yea
    How about someone who allows a murderer that kills his own comrades and little children to walk free to continue his evil deeds?
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    Let's just say Danzou made many good characters evil(aka Sasuke and Kabuto) and manipulated everyone
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    Agreed, Sasuke did the world a favor
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    The guy had many issues, the most obvious among those being an inferiority complex regarding Hiruzen and an almost obsessive desire to protect Konoha at all costs, but despite all that, he wasn't such a bad guy.
    Like earlier posts have stated, Danzo was and may remain the most realistic character in Naruto, someone willing to sacrifice the lives of a few for the greater good of the many.

    I hate it when people keep saying that everything he did was for himself. Sure, he may have done some unnecessarily selfish shit in order to get to the Hokage seat, but overall, his motives have always been the safety of Konoha.
    * Killed the messenger frog during the Pain arc to ensure Naruto stayed away to prevent Pain from capturing him.
    * Black-mailed the orphanage chick into working for him again to find out whether Iwa was a threat to Konoha's safety.
    * Prevented his own ANBU from assisting in the defense of Konoha because he knew Tsunade would be able to protect it, even though mainly, it was for his own selfish purposes of attaining the Kage seat. Had there been any real danger, no doubt he would have acted.

    That's the only things I could think of atm but I'm sure there's more.

    Overall point is, sure the guy's a jackass, sure he's stepped over boundaries, but that's the kinda character Kishi made him to be, a focused protector of Konoha who did the dirty work from the shadows.

    Also, for those who say that Hiruzen wasn't aware of Danzo's motives, you're all wrong. Hiruzen was more than aware of Root's existence and it's continued activeness. He also knew that Danzo was trying to take the Kage seat for himself but he didn't act on it, why? Because doing so would create strife within the ANBU and village plus, he knew that what Root was doing was essential to safety of Konoha.

    As a character though, I still don't like him but I respect his goal of ensuring the continued survival of Konoha.
     
         
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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    KingHashirama you are a very naive person based on your post's.

    OT: Danzo did what he thought was best for the village and even at that those were great decisions. The shinboi world is not a land of milk and honey, but a land of scumbags and savages with a bokeh of flowers.
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    Danzo was a corrupt guy/root who wanted to use pple to get what he wanted.
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    He may have been corrupt, but he wanted to protect the leaf.
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    so he threatened to kidnap kids and steal money for his own gain, who doesnt want to kidnap a few children and make them into awesome ninja? 0.o
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    old news, but ty for telling
    danzo is an ugly creepy jackass lol
     
         

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    Re: Proof of how Danzo was a disgrace to Konoha and Sarutobi:

    I think Danzo is a pretty cool guy. he does what needs to be done.... kinda like Hitler good man good intentions just ended less than satisfactory
     
         

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