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08-27-2009, 07:46 AM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by Akatsuki leader
YEAh yeah... naruto?? he just running the battlefield like a madman and use somme big ****ing jutsu naruto is tooo cooky!!! and fight without strategy.!
You are dead wrong. Ever since Naruto defeated Kakuzu he`s been a lot more cautios and thinking before doing. The roles are switched. Sasuke is the cocky one now not Naruto.
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08-27-2009, 09:17 AM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by Akatsuki leader
YEAh yeah... naruto?? he just running the battlefield like a madman and use somme big ****ing jutsu naruto is tooo cooky!!! and fight without strategy.!
didn't this forum have an age limit? i think he's underrated.
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08-27-2009, 09:18 AM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by UchihaSama1991
You are dead wrong. Ever since Naruto defeated Kakuzu he`s been a lot more cautios and thinking before doing. The roles are switched. Sasuke is the cocky one now not Naruto.
well said ... sasuke is my fav. character .. an sasuke is now the one who charges in without thinking, while naruto is starting to use his brain. Sasuke is strait up COCKY... while naruto jus believes in himself.
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08-27-2009, 09:31 AM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
I`d just like to add about that whole fair vs unfair in the Shinobi world. That doesn`t exist. The whole ninja world is supposed to be unfair. Ninja`s are anti-samurai. Samurai are known for their honor and for being fair above all. Ninja`s are not. Everything is allowed in the shinobi world. He who dares, wins :D
I predict that Sasuke is gonna get his ass handed to him in this chapter but the tables will turn in the next one. I see Mangekyou Sharingan coming and some cool moves by Raikage. Yamato and Kakashi may have underestimated Madara by trying to capture him. If he hadn`t let them they wouldn`t have done it.
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08-27-2009, 09:57 AM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
I think madara was right about (old konoha) and 1st hokage!
Madara is good boy!
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08-27-2009, 10:55 AM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by Akatsuki leader
YEAh yeah... naruto?? he just running the battlefield like a madman and use somme big ****ing jutsu naruto is tooo cooky!!! and fight without strategy.!
Naruto has no strategy?!?.... Did you forget how he beat Pein?... He showed his patience, focus, analytical abilities and power. If you based your opinion on Naruto during the time before the whole Pein Arc, I understand... somewhat. But not after Pein. 
Sasuke is the cocky one, he always was from the very beginning of the manga... how he looked down on others... Naruto is just determined.
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08-27-2009, 10:58 AM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by Rosuto Taisei
Naruto has no strategy?!?.... Did you forget how he beat Pein?... He showed his patience, focus, analytical abilities and power. If you based your opinion on Naruto during the time before the whole Pein Arc, I understand... somewhat. But not after Pein.
Sasuke is the cocky one, he always was from the very beginning of the manga... how he looked down on others... Naruto is just determined.
Yeah i forget that :D
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08-27-2009, 11:45 AM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
462 ch. NOT 461
Japanese Summary
Source: Nja @ 2ch
( HALF DONE ) English Translation by: Pocketmofo
Verification: Confirmed
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08-27-2009, 01:49 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by kozinaruckus
ok for those going on about how week naruto would be without kyubbi. The fact of the matter is he would be 10 times stronger without it because he has to suppress its chakra. I forget which manga it was listed but it has also been said by kakashi in the anime. So just to know how powerful he is suppressing the beast to think how much of a beast he is if he didn't have to do so.
you are right, naruto would be some much better it would be crazy, his learning curve would be higher, naruto' s one problem has always been chackra control, because of the 9tails, its not that he is stupid, but this struggle is what will make him the strongest and most powerful ninja
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08-27-2009, 02:08 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by KASTAWAY
you are right, naruto would be some much better it would be crazy, his learning curve would be higher, naruto' s one problem has always been chackra control, because of the 9tails, its not that he is stupid, but this struggle is what will make him the strongest and most powerful ninja
Sasuke is already fight without sharingan in the hospital in naruto not shippuudden!
and is same power the result naruto not stronger. just a little :D because a hero of the anime/manga :D
If naruto anime/manga name was a SASUKE not naruto is SASUKE gonna be a stronger because he s a hero and naruto gonna take sasuke place.
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08-27-2009, 02:20 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by akatsuki leader
sasuke is already fight without sharingan in the hospital in naruto not shippuudden!
And is same power the result naruto not stronger. Just a little :d because a hero of the anime/manga :d
if naruto anime/manga name was a sasuke not naruto is sasuke gonna be a stronger because he s a hero and naruto gonna take sasuke place.
please understand this, naruto had bad chackra control making him weaker, that is the only reason, for anyone not liking naruto, or thinking he is weak....
The 9tails power makes it harder for him to use ninja arts. Everyone should know by now that even without the sealed 9tails naruto has more chackra than 90 percent of ninja in the manga. Please people use information form the whole manga not just parts, the answer has already been given to why naruto had a hard time in the academy. he is past all this now the playing field has been leveled- his progression should happen much faster than readers are ready for
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08-27-2009, 02:47 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
Hesus people stop bashin sasuke for once, if u gonna bash sasuke then start on kakashi who wud be nothing without his sharingan as he always reveals it when in danger. Sasuke only uses his sharingan when he in danger he dosent jus jump in battle sayin im gonna own ppl wit sharingan thats what i noticed a little while back when i re-read some of the fights.when he fought killerbee, if u paid attention u wud have noticed he didnt activate sharingan untill bee did that crazy ass awesome spinning thing, look at his eyes when he says "ill handle this" and during his first couple moves in the fight,he kept up with haku,no he was even better than haku and thats b4 sharingan, haku had to use his ultimate technique and luckily sauke discovered his and owned him once again but damn naruto was weak then and got in the way and then there is gaara sasuke only used sharingan when he was about to use chirdoi, he owned gaarra before his transformation without shringan and yeah he used it to combat demon garra when he realised gaara "now has inhuman speed" so sasuke is like kakashi even tho sharingan isnt taxing on sasukes stamina it is used as a trump in a pinch if u payed attaention u wud have known this so sharingan for sasuke is used like mass shdow clone for naruto, its a trump, in most cases. All im sayin he dosent "rely" on sharingan cuz yeah, he used it at the start when deidara used his sneak attack but thats to be expected since it was 2 on one not to mention akatsuki and they were in full battle mode from start "right?", im a naruto uzumaki fan (i have to say s ppl will say im biased, my list is naruto,itachi,sasuke,kakashi) but i hate to hear when people bash good characters "wrongly" especialy sasuke as it happens alot "so remember kids if ur gonna bash sasuke always remember to bash kakashi first,thats ur project for this week" BTW always remember itachi cuz altho we all luved him he was the bigest abuser of sharingan as he couldnt c witout it. -"as usual longer than expected,gah"-
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08-27-2009, 03:11 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by itachi sama
take a chill pill sasuke! Accept the fact that you are getting your butt kicked by raikage (according to the confirmed spoilers)...
hahahahahahha!!!!!!!
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08-27-2009, 03:11 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by kyubikiran
the only difference between sasuke and naruto is that sasuke is over confident and underestimates his opponent every time but naruto is different he fights with pure confidence and he does finish his job by not only defeating his opponent but also changes the people, both are strong its just that sasuke is too cocky in every time thinking his sharingan is the best of the best
one more thing somebody said that a jinchuriki(host with the beast) are cheating by using their beast in the battle, in that case using the three eye techniques and all the blood line limits is cheating, jinchuriki did not wanted a beast in them its just their elders doing and even then they had to work so hard to harvest their beast power and control them like kb but sharingan copies all the techniques unilke naruto who worked really hard for everything....
Well said mate!!!!
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08-27-2009, 03:14 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by culinaryg
wat if itachis gift was to negate the control of the 9 tails taht would really piss of madara
also telling sasuke the truth about everything which he shouuldve done in the beginning
Good point there man..... Thts wat I was thinkin.... Maybe Ithachis Gift is not sum power or jutsu.... BUt The TRUTH ABOUT SASKE & THE UCHIHA GENOCIDE..... just a thought...Only time can confirm this though!!!!!!
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08-27-2009, 03:20 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by kydo
Hesus people stop bashin sasuke for once, if u gonna bash sasuke then start on kakashi who wud be nothing without his sharingan as he always reveals it when in danger (fyi everyone luvs kakashi, im no exception). Sasuke only uses his sharingan when he in danger he dosent jus jump in battle sayin im gonna own ppl wit sharingan thats what i noticed a little while back when i re-read some of the fights.when he fought killerbee, if u paid attention u wud have noticed he didnt activate sharingan untill bee did that crazy ass awesome spinning thing, look at his eyes when he says "ill handle this" and during his first couple moves in the fight,he kept up with haku,no he was even better than haku and thats b4 sharingan, haku had to use his ultimate technique and luckily sauke discovered his and owned him once again but damn naruto was weak then and got in the way and then there is gaara sasuke only used sharingan when he was about to use chirdoi, he owned gaarra before his transformation without shringan and yeah he used it to combat demon garra when he realised gaara "now has inhuman speed" so sasuke is like kakashi even tho sharingan isnt taxing on sasukes stamina it is used as a trump in a pinch if u payed attaention u wud have known this so sharingan for sasuke is used like mass shdow clone for naruto, its a trump, in most cases. All im sayin he dosent "rely" on sharingan cuz yeah, he used it at the start when deidara used his sneak attack but thats to be expected since it was 2 on one not to mention akatsuki and they were in full battle mode from start "right?", im a naruto uzumaki fan (i have to say s ppl will say im biased, my list is naruto,itachi,sasuke,kakashi) but i hate to hear when people bash good characters "wrongly" especialy sasuke as it happens alot "so remember kids if ur gonna bash sasuke always remember to bash kakashi first,thats ur project for this week" BTW always remember itachi cuz altho we all luved him he was the biggest abuser of sharingan as he couldnt c without it.as usual longer than expected
The reason why we don't bash kakashi is because, Sasuke has a choice of turning the Sharingan on, And he has it in both eyes. While Kakashi has his Sharingan activated at ALL times. Now if you were in a battle, Would you rather fight with one eye closed, or no eyes closed. Answer is simple, You fight with neither eye closed. Kakashi has to use his sharingan for fights because he needs to fight with both eyes open, Otherwise you've got a blind spot. Sasuke does use Sharingan for everything. Of course he's not going to activate it when his opponent is standing around.. Seriously without his Sharingan he's dead. Killer Bee would have easily won if not for Amaterasu. I'll agree Naruto was weak during fight with Haku, But who ultimately broke Haku's Ice Jutsu? Naruto with 9 tails chakra, Not sasuke. Again with gaara, Who beat Shukaku Gaara? Naruto + Gamabunta, Sasuke even thought Naruto was going to surpass him. There's no reason to bash Kakashi. He doesn't depend on Sharingan, He needs to use it otherwise he leaves a blind spot. Sasuke depends on it, Without it, Well, Deidara would have blown him up with C2 Dragon + Mines, and Killer bee would have killed him with 8 Tails form. First project for you, Remember the basics :D. Itachi never wanted to fight anyway, If you go back to Madara's talk about Itachi, He says Itachi was always a pacifist, He hated fights and tried not to get into them, If he got into them he'd always find the easiest way out. He could see without it, He never went completely blind, His eyes were white by the end of his fight with Sasuke but he could see Sasuke well enough to transfer Amaterasu and maybe the other techniques.
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08-27-2009, 03:33 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by LightningZI
The reason why we don't bash kakashi is because, Sasuke has a choice of turning the Sharingan on, And he has it in both eyes. While Kakashi has his Sharingan activated at ALL times. Now if you were in a battle, Would you rather fight with one eye closed, or no eyes closed. Answer is simple, You fight with neither eye closed. Kakashi has to use his sharingan for fights because he needs to fight with both eyes open, Otherwise you've got a blind spot. Sasuke does use Sharingan for everything. Of course he's not going to activate it when his opponent is standing around.. Seriously without his Sharingan he's dead. Killer Bee would have easily won if not for Amaterasu. I'll agree Naruto was weak during fight with Haku, But who ultimately broke Haku's Ice Jutsu? Naruto with 9 tails chakra, Not sasuke. Again with gaara, Who beat Shukaku Gaara? Naruto + Gamabunta, Sasuke even thought Naruto was going to surpass him. There's no reason to bash Kakashi. He doesn't depend on Sharingan, He needs to use it otherwise he leaves a blind spot. Sasuke depends on it, Without it, Well, Deidara would have blown him up with C2 Dragon + Mines, and Killer bee would have killed him with 8 Tails form. First project for you, Remember the basics :D. Itachi never wanted to fight anyway, If you go back to Madara's talk about Itachi, He says Itachi was always a pacifist, He hated fights and tried not to get into them, If he got into them he'd always find the easiest way out. He could see without it, He never went completely blind, His eyes were white by the end of his fight with Sasuke but he could see Sasuke well enough to transfer Amaterasu and maybe the other techniques.
good points there abt Itachi...... He was a strategist..... he always planned things out.... unlike saske whos just an overconfident Asssshole...... I think its about time sum1 taught him a lesson.... GO RAIKAGE!!!!!!!!! :P :D :D
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08-27-2009, 04:22 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by UchihaSama1991
You are dead wrong. Ever since Naruto defeated Kakuzu he`s been a lot more cautios and thinking before doing. The roles are switched. Sasuke is the cocky one now not Naruto.
common guys even before defeating kakazu naruto was using his brain in his fights, think of the matches against kiba and neji.. those were some awesome fights. and not to forget his fight against gaara who used a explosive kuani pronouncing sannan garoshi (finger in the hole) making others to think he is idiot, but he attacked the tail of the beast and made him weaker.. even now i always watch these fights, they are so cool...
minato knew that naruto chakra has special ability, where it can suppress the most sinister and evil chakra of kyubi that is the reason he sealed inside it and minato naruto can harvest the kyubi chakra and control the kyubi ulitimately...
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08-27-2009, 04:42 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by kyubikiran
common guys even before defeating kakazu naruto was using his brain in his fights, think of the matches against kiba and neji.. those were some awesome fights. and not to forget his fight against gaara who used a explosive kuani pronouncing sannan garoshi (finger in the hole) making others to think he is idiot, but he attacked the tail of the beast and made him weaker.. even now i always watch these fights, they are so cool...
minato knew that naruto chakra has special ability, where it can suppress the most sinister and evil chakra of kyubi that is the reason he sealed inside it and minato naruto can harvest the kyubi chakra and control the kyubi ulitimately...
Yeah your right, The fight with Neji was really like a turnaround for naruto.
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08-27-2009, 07:29 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by LightningZI
The reason why we don't bash kakashi is because, Sasuke has a choice of turning the Sharingan on, And he has it in both eyes. While Kakashi has his Sharingan activated at ALL times. Now if you were in a battle, Would you rather fight with one eye closed, or no eyes closed. Answer is simple, You fight with neither eye closed. Kakashi has to use his sharingan for fights because he needs to fight with both eyes open, Otherwise you've got a blind spot. Sasuke does use Sharingan for everything. Of course he's not going to activate it when his opponent is standing around.. Seriously without his Sharingan he's dead. Killer Bee would have easily won if not for Amaterasu. I'll agree Naruto was weak during fight with Haku, But who ultimately broke Haku's Ice Jutsu? Naruto with 9 tails chakra, Not sasuke. Again with gaara, Who beat Shukaku Gaara? Naruto + Gamabunta, Sasuke even thought Naruto was going to surpass him. There's no reason to bash Kakashi. He doesn't depend on Sharingan, He needs to use it otherwise he leaves a blind spot. Sasuke depends on it, Without it, Well, Deidara would have blown him up with C2 Dragon + Mines, and Killer bee would have killed him with 8 Tails form. First project for you, Remember the basics :D. Itachi never wanted to fight anyway, If you go back to Madara's talk about Itachi, He says Itachi was always a pacifist, He hated fights and tried not to get into them, If he got into them he'd always find the easiest way out. He could see without it, He never went completely blind, His eyes were white by the end of his fight with Sasuke but he could see Sasuke well enough to transfer Amaterasu and maybe the other techniques.
Can we all stop talking about if these ninja didnt have there powers... because while yall are all bashing my fav. charac. sasuke... its true if he didnt have sharingan he would get owned ... but so would itachi... madara... KAKASHI ESPECIALLY HIM... an not jus sharingan users.. neji would get pwned wit out his byuakugan... pein wit out him rinnegan... i mean the list goes on, so u guys should really shut up, because if everyone with a special power lost that power u would be complaining there too weak or the manga sucks... i mean look at the 1st ... if he didnt have his kekkeginkai he would've gotten owned too.. so lets jus say its cool for these ninja to have there own unique abilities they were born wit.. after all its what makes them unique from everyone else.. of course we show favortism towards naruto because he's a hardworker an he developed his own power.. but like other people said if he didnt have the 9tails he would've died a loooooong time ago in the manga an anyone who disagrees with that tell me why... the only reason he beat haku was because of ninetails... only reason he beat neji was ninetails again ... he couldve died in both battles.
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08-27-2009, 07:57 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
about naruto vs garra
when naruto beat garra he didn't turn into a tailed beast he just used some chakra to pull out bigger moves.
also when he transformed gamabunta in to the 9tails everyone was shocked bam the strongest craziest tailed beast.
also I think the reason that naruto standing there for a moment after the 1000 years of pain move is because when kakashi did it to him he jumped because he was not used to that kind of pain. garra just stands there becuse he was used to that kind of pain. but it was good thinking on using the first move kakashi landed on him. everyone has one and its a weak point.
hurry up manga and show
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08-27-2009, 09:13 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by Mystikk******
Can we all stop talking about if these ninja didnt have there powers... because while yall are all bashing my fav. charac. sasuke... its true if he didnt have sharingan he would get owned ... but so would itachi... madara... KAKASHI ESPECIALLY HIM... an not jus sharingan users.. neji would get pwned wit out his byuakugan... pein wit out him rinnegan... i mean the list goes on, so u guys should really shut up, because if everyone with a special power lost that power u would be complaining there too weak or the manga sucks... i mean look at the 1st ... if he didnt have his kekkeginkai he would've gotten owned too.. so lets jus say its cool for these ninja to have there own unique abilities they were born wit.. after all its what makes them unique from everyone else.. of course we show favortism towards naruto because he's a hardworker an he developed his own power.. but like other people said if he didnt have the 9tails he would've died a loooooong time ago in the manga an anyone who disagrees with that tell me why... the only reason he beat haku was because of ninetails... only reason he beat neji was ninetails again ... he couldve died in both battles.
hey dude no offense that what it was i was trying to explain, using beast power is no way of any cheating in naruto world
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08-27-2009, 09:56 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by Mystikk******
Can we all stop talking about if these ninja didnt have there powers... because while yall are all bashing my fav. charac. sasuke... its true if he didnt have sharingan he would get owned ... but so would itachi... madara... KAKASHI ESPECIALLY HIM... an not jus sharingan users.. neji would get pwned wit out his byuakugan... pein wit out him rinnegan... i mean the list goes on, so u guys should really shut up, because if everyone with a special power lost that power u would be complaining there too weak or the manga sucks... i mean look at the 1st ... if he didnt have his kekkeginkai he would've gotten owned too.. so lets jus say its cool for these ninja to have there own unique abilities they were born wit.. after all its what makes them unique from everyone else.. of course we show favortism towards naruto because he's a hardworker an he developed his own power.. but like other people said if he didnt have the 9tails he would've died a loooooong time ago in the manga an anyone who disagrees with that tell me why... the only reason he beat haku was because of ninetails... only reason he beat neji was ninetails again ... he couldve died in both battles.
absolutly right dude....let sasuke use his sharingan how he want, that why he strong like naruto for the kyuuby inside him. And i dont understand people bashing sasuke because he activate his sharingan when he`s in a fight, he`s 150% better with sharingan. It`s like saying a marine ``always`` use his MP5 even his pistol in a war.. or why gaara always use his sand in a fight??? IT`S SOOOO STUPID....!!!
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08-27-2009, 10:13 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by kyubikiran
common guys even before defeating kakazu naruto was using his brain in his fights, think of the matches against kiba and neji.. those were some awesome fights. and not to forget his fight against gaara who used a explosive kuani pronouncing sannan garoshi (finger in the hole) making others to think he is idiot, but he attacked the tail of the beast and made him weaker.. even now i always watch these fights, they are so cool...
minato knew that naruto chakra has special ability, where it can suppress the most sinister and evil chakra of kyubi that is the reason he sealed inside it and minato naruto can harvest the kyubi chakra and control the kyubi ulitimately...
he is an idiot all those fights he needed nine tails
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08-27-2009, 10:25 PM
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Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions
 Originally Posted by LightningZI
The reason why we don't bash kakashi is because, Sasuke has a choice of turning the Sharingan on, And he has it in both eyes. While Kakashi has his Sharingan activated at ALL times. Now if you were in a battle, Would you rather fight with one eye closed, or no eyes closed. Answer is simple, You fight with neither eye closed. Kakashi has to use his sharingan for fights because he needs to fight with both eyes open, Otherwise you've got a blind spot. Sasuke does use Sharingan for everything. Of course he's not going to activate it when his opponent is standing around.. Seriously without his Sharingan he's dead. Killer Bee would have easily won if not for Amaterasu. I'll agree Naruto was weak during fight with Haku, But who ultimately broke Haku's Ice Jutsu? Naruto with 9 tails chakra, Not sasuke. Again with gaara, Who beat Shukaku Gaara? Naruto + Gamabunta, Sasuke even thought Naruto was going to surpass him. There's no reason to bash Kakashi. He doesn't depend on Sharingan, He needs to use it otherwise he leaves a blind spot. Sasuke depends on it, Without it, Well, Deidara would have blown him up with C2 Dragon + Mines, and Killer bee would have killed him with 8 Tails form. First project for you, Remember the basics :D. Itachi never wanted to fight anyway, If you go back to Madara's talk about Itachi, He says Itachi was always a pacifist, He hated fights and tried not to get into them, If he got into them he'd always find the easiest way out. He could see without it, He never went completely blind, His eyes were white by the end of his fight with Sasuke but he could see Sasuke well enough to transfer Amaterasu and maybe the other techniques.
good job on the itachei part your right!!!
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