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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    I have to theories about this chapter

    1. Is I do think the thing controlling saskue has something to do with the curse seal. before people start saying he lost the curse seal during the itachi fight, lets not forget right after that battle Juggo gave saskue some of him to heal saskue during the eight tails battle. Also it seemed that juggo new what was happening when saskue killed the samuri loook at his facil experrison also he was about to say somtheing about it when the Rakige jumped out.

    2.I have this strange feeling naruto will end up going with madara or some how leaving khnoa. I say this from the examples we have been given so far. first Madara is going to explain the whole history of the uhchia and how saskue was tricked to killing his brother. this will force naruto to rethink everything about the village and lets not forget that the kohna 11 have already deicide to hunt saskue. Thats just my opinions tell me what you think
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kenpachi View Post
    What do you think about Madara? Why did he visit Naruto, for a little chat? What do you think he wants to tell em'

    I really begin to like it now, normally Sasuke wouldn't kill, but in the mood he was in this chapter. Awesome! But i think he still isn't powerfull enough to kill Danzo.
    I belevie he likes like he said Madara sees the strength in and the way he can change people. So i think he might be trying to one change naruto views on kohnoa and have him leave and join him.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    I doubt there'll really be any real "Sasuke vs Raikage", because some sort of intrusion is inevitable while looking at things.

    I wonder what Tobi is about to say... maybe he'll reveal his true purpose with Sasuke.
     
         

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    i got the feeling that tobi only wants to save time, so that none of the konoha gets sasuke in the way. its more like getting the attention instead of let naruto and go acknowledge whats going on and interfere.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    1. Is I do think the thing controlling saskue has something to do with the curse seal.
    Thats what i came up with aswell, The Cursed Seal gives evil chakra. Just like Juugo and the Sound 4 and others. They become way more evil than they used to be.

    I belevie he likes like he said Madara sees the strength in and the way he can change people. So i think he might be trying to one change naruto views on kohnoa and have him leave and join him.
    I must agree that somehow i have the feeling he wants to know Naruto, they will Both try to change eachother!
    Also he's buying Sasuke time, so Naruto can't interfere and aid the Kages.

    I doubt there'll really be any real "Sasuke vs Raikage", because some sort of intrusion is inevitable while looking at things.
    Juugo was about to activate Cursed Seal Stage 2 if i'm right?
    Maybe he'll take the Raikage so Sasuke can kill Danzou.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Another thing is, i reread the manga at Deidara vs Sasuke.

    Sasuke was able to control Manda with his Sharingan, considered using illusions.

    So it's possible for Madara to control Kyuubi aswell! Because he's at a way higher lvl imo.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SageD View Post
    I have to theories about this chapter

    1. Is I do think the thing controlling saskue has something to do with the curse seal. before people start saying he lost the curse seal during the itachi fight, lets not forget right after that battle Juggo gave saskue some of him to heal saskue during the eight tails battle. Also it seemed that juggo new what was happening when saskue killed the samuri loook at his facil experrison also he was about to say somtheing about it when the Rakige jumped out.

    2.I have this strange feeling naruto will end up going with madara or some how leaving khnoa. I say this from the examples we have been given so far. first Madara is going to explain the whole history of the uhchia and how saskue was tricked to killing his brother. this will force naruto to rethink everything about the village and lets not forget that the kohna 11 have already deicide to hunt saskue. Thats just my opinions tell me what you think
    Good point on #1. Since the Curse Mark started with Jugo, somehow when he helped heal Sauske it might have affected him, especially since Sauske no longer had the curse mark from Orochimaru since Itachi helped remove it. Maybe if he had the curse mark when Jugo healed him it would have not had a negative affect, but since he didn't have it, maybe causing something worse?

    I don't think Naruto will follow Madara. Remember his father the 4th Hokage told him that there was a strange person in a mask who was controlling the Kyubbi and Naruto knows it was Madara so no matter what he tells him, Naruto will ultimately believe his dad. I think the manga will end with another epic battle against Sauske and Naruto. One of them will die.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SageD View Post
    I belevie he likes like he said Madara sees the strength in and the way he can change people. So i think he might be trying to one change naruto views on kohnoa and have him leave and join him.
    I think he's intrigued by Naruto. Out of everyone Madara has encountered, he's pretty much planned for what would ultimately happen (he wasn't really surprised that Pain had been killed). He's basically played everyone but the one person he didn't count for has been Naruto and his ability to really change people so he wants to find out how Naruto was able to change Pain, someone who Madara was obviously playing. He's also trying to stall Naruto from confronting Sauske now. I doubt Naruto will follow Madara though considering what he knows from the 4th Hokage.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SageD View Post
    I have to theories about this chapter

    1. Is I do think the thing controlling saskue has something to do with the curse seal. before people start saying he lost the curse seal during the itachi fight, lets not forget right after that battle Juggo gave saskue some of him to heal saskue during the eight tails battle. Also it seemed that juggo new what was happening when saskue killed the samuri loook at his facil experrison also he was about to say somtheing about it when the Rakige jumped out.
    i thought so too. his sudden violence reminds me on the first activation of the cs in the forest, where he'd probably killed all of them if sakura didnt had stopped him. maybe he got an even stronger cs by jugo, i hope so.

    on the other hand i have the feeling that madara is going to explain what is going on with sasuke, and that bringing sasuke to that point was what madara really wanted. maybe we will see sasukes dark uchiha chakra break through, releasing finally his own ms-techs.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    its gonna be a showdown between two skilled warrior!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Hikakuu Yondaimesama View Post
    Thats what i came up with aswell, The Cursed Seal gives evil chakra. Just like Juugo and the Sound 4 and others. They become way more evil than they used to be.


    I must agree that somehow i have the feeling he wants to know Naruto, they will Both try to change eachother!
    Also he's buying Sasuke time, so Naruto can't interfere and aid the Kages.


    Juugo was about to activate Cursed Seal Stage 2 if i'm right?
    Maybe he'll take the Raikage so Sasuke can kill Danzou.
    yea that's what i think to he is buying saskue time but the reason i feel will leave the village is because of what he is about to hear from madara also since the kohnoa 11 have decied to hunt saskue he will do it on his own even if that means joining the akakusi somewhat like Itachi did.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by big nebulus View Post
    Good point on #1. Since the Curse Mark started with Jugo, somehow when he helped heal Sauske it might have affected him, especially since Sauske no longer had the curse mark from Orochimaru since Itachi helped remove it. Maybe if he had the curse mark when Jugo healed him it would have not had a negative affect, but since he didn't have it, maybe causing something worse?

    I don't think Naruto will follow Madara. Remember his father the 4th Hokage told him that there was a strange person in a mask who was controlling the Kyubbi and Naruto knows it was Madara so no matter what he tells him, Naruto will ultimately believe his dad. I think the manga will end with another epic battle against Sauske and Naruto. One of them will die.
    True but not even dad knew all the dirty things the elder and Danzou did since he was dead. But you are right but i have a feeling that he might join him to save saskue lets not forget right now only 3 people still are trying to save and that's and yamato/Tanzo, and i only think and yamato/tanzo are ding it for
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by big nebulus View Post
    I think he's intrigued by Naruto. Out of everyone Madara has encountered, he's pretty much planned for what would ultimately happen (he wasn't really surprised that Pain had been killed). He's basically played everyone but the one person he didn't count for has been Naruto and his ability to really change people so he wants to find out how Naruto was able to change Pain, someone who Madara was obviously playing. He's also trying to stall Naruto from confronting Sauske now. I doubt Naruto will follow Madara though considering what he knows from the 4th Hokage.
    Yea that's true but like i posted eariler the 4th was not alive to see what Danzou and the elders did the the uhchia wished forced itachi to kill them and to seek revengae and be filled with hatered but like I said I am probably wrong i am just using the info we have gathered so far.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    someone mentioned about the shadow as sasuke's new level of evilness, is it as powerful as the kyuubi? so maybe at the next sasuke vs naruto fight, it will be at level or above kyuubi powers, i think above kyuubi power if it will add their sage mode and MS.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by SageD View Post
    Yea that's true but like i posted eariler the 4th was not alive to see what Danzou and the elders did the the uhchia wished forced itachi to kill them and to seek revengae and be filled with hatered but like I said I am probably wrong i am just using the info we have gathered so far.
    My question is, do you think Madara was telling Sauske the truth about what happened with Itachi? After all, didn't he help Itachi kill all the Uchihas (remember Sauske mentioned during his fight with Itachi that he couldn't have possibly killed everyone himself?). I think Madara told Sauske what he needed in order to get him to do what he wants. I think something else was going on between Madara and Itachi and that's why he killed everyone.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    I'm really disappointed about this chapter after two weeks waiting. Every one talks about the battle between Sasuke and Riakage but the most important thing why Madara visits Naruto and why he asks him about Nagato and how he made nagato betray him ('Madara'). I think he does not want what happened with Nagato happens with Sasuke. Naruto is a strong influence on the people he talk with. Now return to battle, I think Sasuke will have a hard time with a really experienced fighter. He may not get kill but at least won't be helped by his team member like karin,.. this time. I'm really waiting for the battle between Naruto and Sasuke more than ever.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    I thought this was a kickass chapter! Best in a while, definetly, and I can't wait for the next one!

    I disagree with most of you on 2 points though...

    1st: I don't think the dark creature has anything to do with the curse mark. I think it's the first stages of "synching with gedo mazo", or whatever madara called it. From what we saw in nagato, it clearly either requires, or generates a significant degree of darkess of soul, so this situations was probably engineered by madara, as the first step in making sasuke his tool by plunging him deeper into the dark, while distracting naruto so that he doesn't interfere.


    2nd: Having said that, I don't think the evil chacra doesn't necessarily mean some new awesome power. The gedo mazo will eventually grant power, to be sure, but as of yet, all that could be happening is it's looming presence lurking closer to sasuke's soul, drawn by the murder living there.

    Thoughts?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by big nebulus View Post
    My question is, do you think Madara was telling Sauske the truth about what happened with Itachi? After all, didn't he help Itachi kill all the Uchihas (remember Sauske mentioned during his fight with Itachi that he couldn't have possibly killed everyone himself?). I think Madara told Sauske what he needed in order to get him to do what he wants. I think something else was going on between Madara and Itachi and that's why he killed everyone.
    I think so myself... even though Itachi was an eminent student he couldn't have killed the entire uchiha clan all by himself, and I am sure that madara told sasuke what he needed in order to get him to do what he wants because that's what bad guys do :D
     
         

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    "dam it...i told him not to kill them" heh i must say this was a great twist i was thinkin that sasuke would keep his ways and end up killing danzo and fighting naruto but as we see this now we know sasuke turning evil his hatred consuming him to the point where he wont b the same as b4....remembering that even though he left with oro and also joined akatsuki he was deep down still good....i know sasuke will end up being the last antagonist for naruto....i think what madara is going to tell naruto is ( instead of making naruto giv up on sasuke ) going to push naruto more to save sasuke...naruto didnt know y sasuke hadnt come back and y he joined madara so he felt as if sasuke and him were drifting away...but now nar is going to know the reasons behind his motive...and c sasuke is just like pain and he will go out to save him....but i c this act conflict with sasuke...i can c naruto end up standing between sasu's goal and losing his chance of killing danzo...and after this sasu might end up making up..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by big nebulus View Post
    My question is, do you think Madara was telling Sauske the truth about what happened with Itachi? After all, didn't he help Itachi kill all the Uchihas (remember Sauske mentioned during his fight with Itachi that he couldn't have possibly killed everyone himself?). I think Madara told Sauske what he needed in order to get him to do what he wants. I think something else was going on between Madara and Itachi and that's why he killed everyone.
    I think that he told him the truth about itachi but I do believe he lied when he said that he didn't attack the village with kyubi 15 years ago. The reason I say this is after itachi death when madara was talking to zetsu he mentionedd that now that itachi is dead he can finsh his plans.
     
         

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