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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

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    I thought this was a kickass chapter! Best in a while, definetly, and I can't wait for the next one!

    I disagree with most of you on 2 points though...

    1st: I don't think the dark creature has anything to do with the curse mark. I think it's the first stages of "synching with gedo mazo", or whatever madara called it. From what we saw in nagato, it clearly either requires, or generates a significant degree of darkess of soul, so this situations was probably engineered by madara, as the first step in making sasuke his tool by plunging him deeper into the dark, while distracting naruto so that he doesn't interfere.


    2nd: Having said that, I don't think the evil chacra doesn't necessarily mean some new awesome power. The gedo mazo will eventually grant power, to be sure, but as of yet, all that could be happening is it's looming presence lurking closer to sasuke's soul, drawn by the murder living there.

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    I see your point but the reason I beleive it has something to do with juggo is his reponse when he was looking at it was if he knew what was going on and he said it's then got cut off by Rakige jumping in but we will findout later in the manga.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    and sasuke will end up wanting to kill all those who stand in his way again even if it is naruto....madara will use this to try and capture naru later on...and also to mold sasuke...mada IS going to use sasuke like he did nagato thats a no brainer lol...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

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    "dam it...i told him not to kill them" heh i must say this was a great twist i was thinkin that sasuke would keep his ways and end up killing danzo and fighting naruto but as we see this now we know sasuke turning evil his hatred consuming him to the point where he wont b the same as b4....remembering that even though he left with oro and also joined akatsuki he was deep down still good....i know sasuke will end up being the last antagonist for naruto....i think what madara is going to tell naruto is ( instead of making naruto giv up on sasuke ) going to push naruto more to save sasuke...naruto didnt know y sasuke hadnt come back and y he joined madara so he felt as if sasuke and him were drifting away...but now nar is going to know the reasons behind his motive...and c sasuke is just like pain and he will go out to save him....but i c this act conflict with sasuke...i can c naruto end up standing between sasu's goal and losing his chance of killing danzo...and after this sasu might end up making up..
    That's also what I think will happen and also why i think will leave the village.
     
         

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    also i agree with the idea that sasuke might b getting influence by juggos blood since that was what oro used to make the curse mark ......it makes sence since this jump from not a killer to a killer came in fpritty fast
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    I think that weird shadow behind Sasuke is Pain's Gedo Mazo. The king of hell has hands like this and Madara was looking for someone to sync up with him again...it'll be interesting to see what really happens.
     
         

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    Awsome chapter!!

    1- Me, i just think Sasuke are possess by the dark second half of Zetsu.....who knows, we dont know anything about the power of Zetsu and the dark shape behind Sasuke look like him. Second, it`s very look like a premeditate suicide move too appear in the middle of a room full of kage with bodyguard.....madara use the good half of Zetsu (the useless half for him) like a tool for a diversion too put all eye on sasuke. Sasuke is now for everyone the public enemy #1 an acting like he act now everyone trying too save him will now change his mind (NARUTO!!) and that what madara want.

    2-I think Madara want to chat with Naruto to know naruto himself because he underestimate him and have some answer for some question like, How he can change people like only him can do?? and How can i evade this kind of situation in the futur?? Because the only thing madara have not plan is naruto.....!!!
     
         

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    ok this 1 is bout kisame....we know that kishi wants kisa char to evolve...and that mada will die...i think when tobi dies kisa will defect from akatsuki...he respected itachi and when itachi died kisame didnt want to b n akatsuki n e more until tobi revealed he was mada...once mada dies i think kisa isnt going to like sasuke..he might not respect sasuke obsession with konoha...making him loose interest in the groups new goals...mabe he will end up turning good and helping might guy and konoha lol that would b fun but this just a thought
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    i think kishi and the other writers were like --

    writers: "hey kishi do u think we shud let sasuke win this fight fairly for a change"
    *everyone in the room starts laughin*
    kishi:".. guys idk,.... u kno what nah, we gonna let raikage mega own his ass, probly blow his face off this time or poke one his eyes out or sumtin".

    writers:"ok guys lets get to work!. how can we make sasuke look like a bigger ass.... we already let him talk big b4 a fight then get owned or beaten half to death so whats worse than that.....?

    kishi:"yosh! i kno ,we'll let raikage wail on him for 2 chapters then hell get down on his knees and beg for forgivness sayin killerbee is still alive.then sasuke's crew will ditch him sayin hes a bit*h and our mission to make sasuke the most hated character will be complete".

    But on a serious note i think kishi is gonna make us c y sasuke is the second main character and narutos rival, i think sasuke is gonna own raikage without an extensive tireing battle and will still have enuf strength to be confident about going atleast one more round with another kage. so my prediction is raikage will get owned with some but not alot of effort from sasuke and i dont think the fight will be postponed or interupted cuz it just be a big waste to have such a big build up then nothin.
     
         
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    Well this was a great chapter; Sasuke has embraced his evil side, Raikage has been itchin for a fight, Madara is Caught by Kakashi and Yamato and we dont know if white Zetsu dead and...Wait a sec...WHERE THE HELL DID BLACK ZETSU GO???? Great job Kishi; Solid A; Well there are a lot of things to get to so lets first start off with Sasuke.

    Well, if you didnt think that Sasuke was evil now after reading this chapter, we then you have to change your definition of EVIL; 1st, Madara said that he was gonna tell the about the man who was eaten up by all the Ninja worlds Hatred and Bitterness; Sasuke is really angery and I honestly think that he doesnt care anymore; 2nd, Sasuke killed all those Samuri, That means that he doesnt care who he kills thats in his way; 3rd, You know that big black thing thats holding Sasuke in the palm of his hand, Thats not a demon or a tailed beast; That thing is all of Sasuke's Hatred and Revenge; it symbolizes that he's embraced it and that he is now a villian; 4th, lets not forget what Karin said, "Sasuke's chakra is different, I've never seen him like this before...Its even darker than his second stage of his curse seal...and colder."; Prediction: Sasuke is gonna either Kill the Raikage and Danzo, or Injure the Raikage beyond belief, Kill Danzo, and the Raikage will die from too much blood loss; As I said before, He's gonna kill two Kagesm and since he's gonna fight the Raikage, I have to believe its gonna be him and Danzo.

    Next, Madara; In my opinion that was a great entrance by Kakashi and Yamato to get in there and Save Naruto as quick as they could but the thing that troubles me is that Madara could have taken Naruto without that even happening; Another thing that scares me is that Madara said that he has a plan, which brings me to Where did black Zetsu go? I think that black Zetsu is hiding somewhere waiting for the right moment to Try to make a move on Naruto; but Thats where it gets blury; I dont think that the plan will work because it can be thwarted in many differnent ways; Sakura, Sai and Shikamaru could come in and save him; Or Kakashi could make a Shadow clone and Save him, or Naruto could use the Sexy No Jutsu save himself...What? Zetsu has to get some love too. :D

    On another note; Madara also Kept refering to himself in the third person; But what if Madara isnt Madara? I wasnt really a doubter up until this later chapter but what if that was the case? The two possible People that I could think of that could be it are Shuishi(Spelling?) Uchiha's Body...or The Yondaime Mizukage with Madara's Eye; it would make sense seeing as how we havent seen Madara without his Sharingan off, Kisame called him the Mizukage, or his face behind that mask; Prediction: Madara will probably say something about Sasuke that will take about a chapter, this will set up Black Zetsu to ATTEMPT to capture Naruto.

    On a Final note we have Sai, Sakura, and Shikamaru; They werent featured in this chapter meaning that what they are doing at this moment is either not important right now, Kishi is building up time for a flashback, or Kishi is gonna make them have a big entrance; at any rate we have to remember that they are still out there and they're on they're still on the back burner; Prediction: they'll probably have a minor role in the next chapter.

    This was a great chapter and I hope Kishi keeps it rolling into next week.
     
         

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    I don't think Sasuke will be able to defeat Raikage regardless of his black aura. He could not possible just go to the summit and kill all of the kages. I like/hate Sasuke, but he is not strong enough for that. I think Madara made Zetsu tell the kages Sasuke was in the are in order to test his strength, or he wants him to get killed since he could be an obstacle in his future plans. Let us not forget that Madara helped Itachi destroy the Uchija, therephore after Sasuke is done with Danzo he might come after Madara, who is awre of that possibility. Also, he might try to accomplish Itachi's wish of defeating Madara.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    I think that Sasuke is finally being eaten up by his hatred, hence the shadow we see behind him. Madara is taking an interest in Naruto's ability to change people and an epic battle between Raikage and Sasuke is about to start. I was a little dissapointed at how short this chapter was but, hopefully kishi makes up for it.
     
         

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    I don't think Sasuke will be able to defeat Raikage regardless of his black aura. He could not possible just go to the summit and kill all of the kages. I like/hate Sasuke, but he is not strong enough for that. I think Madara made Zetsu tell the kages Sasuke was in the are in order to test his strength, or he wants him to get killed since he could be an obstacle in his future plans. Let us not forget that Madara helped Itachi destroy the Uchija, therephore after Sasuke is done with Danzo he might come after Madara, who is awre of that possibility. Also, he might try to accomplish Itachi's wish of defeating Madara.
    There's no way he can kill all Five Kages, but he can kill two to solidify his place as a villian in the story; It would kind of make sense for him to kill the Raikage b/c the Raikage was the one who wanted him dead in the first place; Plus they are all ready going to fight and I dont think the Raikage will ever stop goin after Sasuke if he is not takin down now; On a third note, The Raikage is just a support character anyway and he's already lived out his purpose.

    The second one he'll kill is Danzo; I know that maybe we havent heard anything about danzo in a while, but do you really think Kishi wont have Danzo explain his sharingan while Sasuke and him are fighting? Plus Danzo is only INTERM Hokage; I found this out when I was reading some of the chapters over again; He still would need a vote from all the Jounin in the village to be solidified as Hokage; Naruto 456 page 06 | One Manga; Lets face it, after word gets out about what happened at the conference with him controling the madorator the Jounin are gonna be like, **** this shit; I Think Danzo has out lived his purpose for the story and Sasuke has to much determination at the moment to kill him that he will die by the end of the conference.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    My Guess is
    1) Raikage will be beaten badly if possible killed by sauske , since sauske has activated the mangnekyou sharingan and he is really pissed(remember that genjutsu is depends on opponents chakra flow in head, since raikage is hot head)
    2) By the time he gets his hands on danzo, Naruto(the bushin which disappered i really think its not bushin, its naruto so that he may not caught ) will be arrived along with the sakura and three of them fights (the dominent force of the apprentice of senin

    3) the killerbee hears this and attcks konoha starting the war



     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by mathura1484 View Post
    ok this 1 is bout kisame....we know that kishi wants kisa char to evolve...and that mada will die...i think when tobi dies kisa will defect from akatsuki...he respected itachi and when itachi died kisame didnt want to b n akatsuki n e more until tobi revealed he was mada...once mada dies i think kisa isnt going to like sasuke..he might not respect sasuke obsession with konoha...making him loose interest in the groups new goals...mabe he will end up turning good and helping might guy and konoha lol that would b fun but this just a thought
    I can see that i agree I beleive the final battle in the manga will be vs to the death.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Ok, first of all the Hokage is in some deep sh*t.

    With Zetsu, I think there's 2 options.

    01. Black Z sensed that White Z was in trouble / possibly dead and is going to check what's going on. Think about it, they're connected. They probably can sense each others condition, emotions etc.
    02. Black Zetsu is hiding out somewhere waiting for Tobi/Madara's signal to pop in & attack Kakashi / Yamato / Naruto or something around that.

    Oh man, Kakashi is so bad-ass! Madara gave in so easily to talk about Naruto. In return Naruto probably has to talk to him about...? Or it could be that Madara is trying to stop Naruto from interfering with Sasuke's fight. How smart is Madara, what's he up to..

    Holy Jesus, it's about time we saw Sasuke eaten up by hate and revenge.. he was never so quick to kill!
    The Raikage showed fast speed, I think this will be an epic match-up because Sasuke is also fast. Raikage's strength just might match up with Tsunade's.

    Juugo told Karin to find Danzo but if she can't sense him, that means she'll have to scout around. From what we've seen she's not a fighter, more of a healer with that bite thing o_o I think Suigetsu will follow her but they'll start arguing and cause trouble...



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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    [QUOTE=Naruto1217;1369677]Well this was a great chapter; Sasuke has embraced his evil side, Raikage has been itchin for a fight, Madara is Caught by Kakashi and Yamato and we dont know if white Zetsu dead and...Wait a sec...WHERE THE HELL DID BLACK ZETSU GO???? Great job Kishi; Solid A; Well there are a lot of things to get to so lets first start off with Sasuke.

    Well, if you didnt think that Sasuke was evil now after reading this chapter, we then you have to change your definition of EVIL; 1st, Madara said that he was gonna tell the about the man who was eaten up by all the Ninja worlds Hatred and Bitterness; Sasuke is really angery and I honestly think that he doesnt care anymore; 2nd, Sasuke killed all those Samuri, That means that he doesnt care who he kills thats in his way; 3rd, You know that big black thing thats holding Sasuke in the palm of his hand, Thats not a demon or a tailed beast; That thing is all of Sasuke's Hatred and Revenge; it symbolizes that he's embraced it and that he is now a villian; 4th, lets not forget what Karin said, "Sasuke's chakra is different, I've never seen him like this before...Its even darker than his second stage of his curse seal...and colder."; Prediction: Sasuke is gonna either Kill the Raikage and Danzo, or Injure the Raikage beyond belief, Kill Danzo, and the Raikage will die from too much blood loss; As I said before, He's gonna kill two Kagesm and since he's gonna fight the Raikage, I have to believe its gonna be him and Danzo.

    Next, Madara; In my opinion that was a great entrance by Kakashi and Yamato to get in there and Save Naruto as quick as they could but the thing that troubles me is that Madara could have taken Naruto without that even happening; Another thing that scares me is that Madara said that he has a plan, which brings me to Where did black Zetsu go? I think that black Zetsu is hiding somewhere waiting for the right moment to Try to make a move on Naruto; but Thats where it gets blury; I dont think that the plan will work because it can be thwarted in many differnent ways; Sakura, Sai and Shikamaru could come in and save him; Or Kakashi could make a Shadow clone and Save him, or Naruto could use the Sexy No Jutsu save himself...What? Zetsu has to get some love too. :D

    On another note; Madara also Kept refering to himself in the third person; But what if Madara isnt Madara? I wasnt really a doubter up until this later chapter but what if that was the case? The two possible People that I could think of that could be it are Shuishi(Spelling?) Uchiha's Body...or The Yondaime Mizukage with Madara's Eye; it would make sense seeing as how we havent seen Madara without his Sharingan off, Kisame called him the Mizukage, or his face behind that mask; Prediction: Madara will probably say something about Sasuke that will take about a chapter, this will set up Black Zetsu to ATTEMPT to capture Naruto.

    On a Final note we have Sai, Sakura, and Shikamaru; They werent featured in this chapter meaning that what they are doing at this moment is either not important right now, Kishi is building up time for a flashback, or Kishi is gonna make them have a big entrance; at any rate we have to remember that they are still out there and they're on they're still on the back burner; Prediction: they'll probably have a minor role in the next chapter.

    This was a great chapter and I hope Kishi keeps it rolling into next week.
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    I don' t think he plans on taking right now because he only has him and the black zetsu and kisame to do the seal,also they have to get the eight tails first. I think he is intrested like he said about and he wants to change view about the village by telling him what the elders and Danzou did to cause the hatered in . So I beleive will end up leaving the village.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto1217 View Post
    Well this was a great chapter; Sasuke has embraced his evil side, Raikage has been itchin for a fight, Madara is Caught by Kakashi and Yamato and we dont know if white Zetsu dead and...Wait a sec...WHERE THE HELL DID BLACK ZETSU GO???? Great job Kishi; Solid A; Well there are a lot of things to get to so lets first start off with Sasuke.

    Well, if you didnt think that Sasuke was evil now after reading this chapter, we then you have to change your definition of EVIL; 1st, Madara said that he was gonna tell the about the man who was eaten up by all the Ninja worlds Hatred and Bitterness; Sasuke is really angery and I honestly think that he doesnt care anymore; 2nd, Sasuke killed all those Samuri, That means that he doesnt care who he kills thats in his way; 3rd, You know that big black thing thats holding Sasuke in the palm of his hand, Thats not a demon or a tailed beast; That thing is all of Sasuke's Hatred and Revenge; it symbolizes that he's embraced it and that he is now a villian; 4th, lets not forget what Karin said, "Sasuke's chakra is different, I've never seen him like this before...Its even darker than his second stage of his curse seal...and colder."; Prediction: Sasuke is gonna either Kill the Raikage and Danzo, or Injure the Raikage beyond belief, Kill Danzo, and the Raikage will die from too much blood loss; As I said before, He's gonna kill two Kagesm and since he's gonna fight the Raikage, I have to believe its gonna be him and Danzo.

    Next, Madara; In my opinion that was a great entrance by Kakashi and Yamato to get in there and Save Naruto as quick as they could but the thing that troubles me is that Madara could have taken Naruto without that even happening; Another thing that scares me is that Madara said that he has a plan, which brings me to Where did black Zetsu go? I think that black Zetsu is hiding somewhere waiting for the right moment to Try to make a move on Naruto; but Thats where it gets blury; I dont think that the plan will work because it can be thwarted in many differnent ways; Sakura, Sai and Shikamaru could come in and save him; Or Kakashi could make a Shadow clone and Save him, or Naruto could use the Sexy No Jutsu save himself...What? Zetsu has to get some love too. :D

    On another note; Madara also Kept refering to himself in the third person; But what if Madara isnt Madara? I wasnt really a doubter up until this later chapter but what if that was the case? The two possible People that I could think of that could be it are Shuishi(Spelling?) Uchiha's Body...or The Yondaime Mizukage with Madara's Eye; it would make sense seeing as how we havent seen Madara without his Sharingan off, Kisame called him the Mizukage, or his face behind that mask; Prediction: Madara will probably say something about Sasuke that will take about a chapter, this will set up Black Zetsu to ATTEMPT to capture Naruto.

    On a Final note we have Sai, Sakura, and Shikamaru; They werent featured in this chapter meaning that what they are doing at this moment is either not important right now, Kishi is building up time for a flashback, or Kishi is gonna make them have a big entrance; at any rate we have to remember that they are still out there and they're on they're still on the back burner; Prediction: they'll probably have a minor role in the next chapter.

    This was a great chapter and I hope Kishi keeps it rolling into next week.
    I was beginning to think u weren't gonna make any posts??..third page??:D
    Great brakdown and analysis as usual...i definitely agree on u with Sasuke...i think it was just a physical representation of just how evil he's gotten...he's just let himself go no holdbacks...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi Sama View Post
    I don't think Sasuke will be able to defeat Raikage regardless of his black aura. He could not possible just go to the summit and kill all of the kages. I like/hate Sasuke, but he is not strong enough for that. I think Madara made Zetsu tell the kages Sasuke was in the are in order to test his strength, or he wants him to get killed since he could be an obstacle in his future plans. Let us not forget that Madara helped Itachi destroy the Uchija, therephore after Sasuke is done with Danzo he might come after Madara, who is awre of that possibility. Also, he might try to accomplish Itachi's wish of defeating Madara.
    That is a very intresting theory.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    i dunno why but i have a feeling juugo is going to betray sasuke and the others. he just seems different and a bit far from taka and their plans...in a good way.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by real kyuubi jinchuuriki View Post
    I was beginning to think u weren't gonna make any posts??..third page??:D
    Great brakdown and analysis as usual...i definitely agree on u with Sasuke...i think it was just a physical representation of just how evil he's gotten...he's just let himself go no holdbacks...
    Sorry Im late; That was b/c I posted on Moiz Thread for the first one.
     
         

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