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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Dont know if its been said already but this chapter pretty much proves that Madara isnt Danzou for the fact being that Danzou is in the Kage meeting being closely watched by AO in the other shinobi there while Madara is conversating with Kakashi, Naruto and Yamato.
     
         

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    No offense but everyone on the 1st page are idiots.... That dark shadow is Madara's NEW MOON jutsu. The same he used to controll Nagato. He used it on only on the two of them cuz they were his only real threats. This jutsu is nearly impossible to break but some how Naruto was able to break through to Nagato with his fight with him. THAT'S WHY MADARA WENT TO SEE NARUTO. HE WANTED TO KNOW HOW NARUTO FREE'D NAGATO.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Caliburn View Post
    Go Raikage!

    And I'm wondering what the black shadow is. Is it something that really exists or did he just draw it as the personification of Sasuke's dark thoughts?

    And the convo between Madara(he again claimed to be Madara) and Naruto should be interesting.
    No offense but everyone on the 1st page are idiots.... That dark shadow is Madara's NEW MOON jutsu. The same he used to controll Nagato. He used it on only on the two of them cuz they were his only real threats. This jutsu is nearly impossible to break but some how Naruto was able to break through to Nagato with his fight with him. THAT'S WHY MADARA WENT TO SEE NARUTO. HE WANTED TO KNOW HOW NARUTO FREE'D NAGATO
     
         

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    Alright first of all the dark figure behind Sauske isnt a demon or something that has to do with the curse seal, I can tell there's a lot of young people in here who cant tell when Kishi is symbolizing something or using a figure of speech of someway. The Dark monster figure symbolizes Sauske's hatred and feelings of revenge, pretty much evil feelings. Someone who is turning evil. Another thing the curse mark was removed by Itachi during their fight, its even said afterwards by I forgot who, I think Madara tells Sauske that after Madara retrieves him from the Itachi fight and reveals who he is. 3rd Juggo heals him by fusing some of his chakra with Sauske and clearly states THAT BECUAE SAUSKE WAS ABLE TO WITHSTAND AND SURVIVE THE CURSE MARK GIVEN TO HIM BY OROCHIMARU THEN HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND AND SURVIVE THE CHAKRA FUSION TO HEAL SAUSKE!!! Im sure people have gone over this already but some KIDS dont understand.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto1217 View Post
    I can see what your saying but at the same time you have to take into accout that Madara says that he has a plan; On another note, I dont think they need to essentailly go in order seeing as how the akatsuki went after Naruto in the first part of the story; remember when Naruto and Jiraiya were looking for Tsunade; I think they'd be still able to take the Kyuubi.
    No offense but everyone on the 1st page are idiots.... That dark shadow is Madara's NEW MOON jutsu. The same he used to controll Nagato. He used it on only on the two of them cuz they were his only real threats. This jutsu is nearly impossible to break but some how Naruto was able to break through to Nagato with his fight with him. THAT'S WHY MADARA WENT TO SEE NARUTO. HE WANTED TO KNOW HOW NARUTO FREE'D NAGATO
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by TwelveTailedDemon92 View Post
    No offense but everyone on the 1st page are idiots.... That dark shadow is Madara's NEW MOON jutsu. The same he used to controll Nagato. He used it on only on the two of them cuz they were his only real threats. This jutsu is nearly impossible to break but some how Naruto was able to break through to Nagato with his fight with him. THAT'S WHY MADARA WENT TO SEE NARUTO. HE WANTED TO KNOW HOW NARUTO FREE'D NAGATO
    He didnt use any jutso on Nagato he pretty much persuaded him and pressed the right buttons to get him to join Madara. Im 100 percent sure the Dark Moon jutso is a whole different thing. Those dark figures are just symbolizing the extent of Sauske's and Nagato's hatred and revengeful feelings. You must be another kid I was talking about.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Zurita210 View Post
    Alright first of all the dark figure behind Sauske isnt a demon or something that has to do with the curse seal, I can tell there's a lot of young people in here who cant tell when Kishi is symbolizing something or using a figure of speech of someway. The Dark monster figure symbolizes Sauske's hatred and feelings of revenge, pretty much evil feelings. Someone who is turning evil. Another thing the curse mark was removed by Itachi during their fight, its even said afterwards by I forgot who, I think Madara tells Sauske that after Madara retrieves him from the Itachi fight and reveals who he is. 3rd Juggo heals him by fusing some of his chakra with Sauske and clearly states THAT BECUAE SAUSKE WAS ABLE TO WITHSTAND AND SURVIVE THE CURSE MARK GIVEN TO HIM BY OROCHIMARU THEN HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND AND SURVIVE THE CHAKRA FUSION TO HEAL SAUSKE!!! Im sure people have gone over this already but some KIDS dont understand.
    No offense but everyone on the 1st page are idiots.... That dark shadow is Madara's NEW MOON jutsu. The same he used to controll Nagato. He used it on only on the two of them cuz they were his only real threats. This jutsu is nearly impossible to break but some how Naruto was able to break through to Nagato with his fight with him. THAT'S WHY MADARA WENT TO SEE NARUTO. HE WANTED TO KNOW HOW NARUTO FREE'D NAGATO
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Symbolism P' lease your just saying that cuz like 100 other idiots said that. Think About it. Back when Itachi used Tsuyami on Kakashi and Sasuke b4 the shippuden saga, it symbolized the moon as amaratsu symbolized the sun. IN OTHER WORDS : Tsuyami=Moon=New Moon Plan ( Tsuyami was the mangakyo sharingan's genjutsu aka ilussion jutsu if you didn't know your Naruto facts)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Hey.
    My 1st post

    black shiluete around Sasuke - well if Naruto has jin power of the fox, where is the jang side of the fox's power?

    i like how Tobi is playing complete idiot everytime, but later on in manga we see he's the one that pulls all of the strings

    i think tobi is going to talk to Naruto about Sasuke and giving him some BS about it

    everyone is going around Sasuke - did they all forget about Danzo?

    That's my 5 cents. ^^
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by TwelveTailedDemon92 View Post
    No offense but everyone on the 1st page are idiots.... That dark shadow is Madara's NEW MOON jutsu. The same he used to controll Nagato. He used it on only on the two of them cuz they were his only real threats. This jutsu is nearly impossible to break but some how Naruto was able to break through to Nagato with his fight with him. THAT'S WHY MADARA WENT TO SEE NARUTO. HE WANTED TO KNOW HOW NARUTO FREE'D NAGATO
    Interesting... Can you show us some proof of your presumption? You seem firm about this, posting it several times. Can you show us a chapter or page in the manga that shows Madara doing this "jutsu" on Nagato, or something that mentioned this?... as far as I can recall, the "New Moon" has only been mentioned once. :confused:
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SageD View Post
    I have to theories about this chapter

    1. Is I do think the thing controlling saskue has something to do with the curse seal. before people start saying he lost the curse seal during the itachi fight, lets not forget right after that battle Juggo gave saskue some of him to heal saskue during the eight tails battle. Also it seemed that juggo new what was happening when saskue killed the samuri loook at his facil experrison also he was about to say somtheing about it when the Rakige jumped out.

    2.I have this strange feeling naruto will end up going with madara or some how leaving khnoa. I say this from the examples we have been given so far. first Madara is going to explain the whole history of the uhchia and how saskue was tricked to killing his brother. this will force naruto to rethink everything about the village and lets not forget that the kohna 11 have already deicide to hunt saskue. Thats just my opinions tell me what you think
    totaly agree with your first theory... pehaps he has a pure curse mark atm which gives him blood lust... jugo did say "thats..." or something along those lines... which does show some sign of recognition... obviously jugo has no curse mark... but maybe now sasuke has a kinship with the direct curse mark... i dont however think it makes him stronger... just more... ruthless?... him getting the samuria's sword tech just seems to me to be his sharingan's copying abilities... but we'll see... good theory my fav so far...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by TwelveTailedDemon92 View Post
    No offense but everyone on the 1st page are idiots.... That dark shadow is Madara's NEW MOON jutsu. The same he used to controll Nagato. He used it on only on the two of them cuz they were his only real threats. This jutsu is nearly impossible to break but some how Naruto was able to break through to Nagato with his fight with him. THAT'S WHY MADARA WENT TO SEE NARUTO. HE WANTED TO KNOW HOW NARUTO FREE'D NAGATO
    ur so annoying stop posting the same thing over and over we read it once we dont need to read it 50 millions times
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    may be the shadow behind sasuke is an image of what tobi tells naruto about sasuke... "a man eaten up by ninja's world of hatred"
    or may be some power of gained by consuming orochimaru...


    and how did yamato capture tobi/madara ... i mean hes not in solid state...
    he mentions a teritory but i didnt get it...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    And sasuke is becomeing the antagonist of the whole storythis which is leading to Naruto Vs Sasuke in the end
     
         

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    yehp...i dnt understand about the whole territory thing...and dat kept me thinkin'...how did they capture tobi when nothin can hit em or get em..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto1217 View Post
    I can see what your saying but at the same time you have to take into accout that Madara says that he has a plan; On another note, I dont think they need to essentailly go in order seeing as how the akatsuki went after Naruto in the first part of the story; remember when Naruto and Jiraiya were looking for Tsunade; I think they'd be still able to take the Kyuubi.
    yea your right but I think his plan is to attack if he feels the need to I think he wants to see what is all about.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SageD View Post
    I belevie he likes like he said Madara sees the strength in and the way he can change people. So i think he might be trying to one change naruto views on kohnoa and have him leave and join him.
    naruto wount go... he knows they want the kyuubi, besides madara has no other use for naruto but just the bijuu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwelveTailedDemon92 View Post
    No offense but everyone on the 1st page are idiots.... That dark shadow is Madara's NEW MOON jutsu. The same he used to controll Nagato. He used it on only on the two of them cuz they were his only real threats. This jutsu is nearly impossible to break but some how Naruto was able to break through to Nagato with his fight with him. THAT'S WHY MADARA WENT TO SEE NARUTO. HE WANTED TO KNOW HOW NARUTO FREE'D NAGATO
    A dude, I wasnt even predicting what you're complaining about so unless you have a prediction, stay off the thread.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SageD View Post
    yea your right but I think his plan is to attack if he feels the need to I think he wants to see what is all about.
    That could be true too.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ssj4SonNino View Post
    Great chapter. Zetsu got choked up like alil *****. LoL!

    I totally agree with SageD and Naruto1217. Sasuke is gona kick some major ass with his pure EVIL chakra. That chakra WAS/IS gripping him and smiling in satisfaction AS IF it has Sasuke in control, but like my homeboys said here and Karin said it as well - Its Sasuke's chakra he has been totally consumed by his hatred. And I think the Raikage is in for the fight of his life and anyone that gets in Sasukes way (cause hes pissed LoL). This is a new Sasuke people.

    Plus so much comotion going on I wonder who else is gona face who...?
    Can't wait for the next chapter, after waiting for 2 weeks for this one, I dont feel so bad waiting for just a week for this next one.

    About the Madara, Naruto, Kakashi, and Yamato scene. Im not really sure what to expect. I mean, last time Tobi wanted to "talk" he got someone to all of a sudden want to take down Konoha all on his own and somehow everything is going just as he planned.

    And about ...who cares, they really haven't done anything critical just yet.

    Aside from the story, just some things I was thinking about, for the ones who hate Sasuke getting strong:

    IMO... Naruto and Sasuke (main characters) have the Saiyan factor. Naruto the "Goku training factor" and Sasuke the "Goku fighting factor" meaning that if you look at Naruto, he's gotten super strong from his rigorous training with all the badasses from Konoha (the Master scroll in the beginning, Kakashi, Jaraiya, and the elder frog). And Sasuke after every battle he gets stronger and stronger especially after coming back from near death (only with Taka its possible) He might have gotten his powers by someone or something else (i.e. Orochimaru - cursed seal or Itachi - Amaterasu) but the point is that some way or somehow he will learn or already be stronger than the previous fight and come harder in the next battle. :D
    great points i like how you brought some DBZ in it i feelt had alot of DBZ like how is goku and is vegeta.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Young Madara View Post
    Hey.
    My 1st post

    black shiluete around Sasuke - well if Naruto has jin power of the fox, where is the jang side of the fox's power?
    Just wanted to say that the Fox is just one entity that is in Naruto. All the Fox's power is in Naruto not just the good and a lil bit of bad in someone else or any BS like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by TwelveTailedDemon92 View Post
    No offense but everyone on the 1st page are idiots.... That dark shadow is Madara's NEW MOON jutsu. The same he used to controll Nagato. He used it on only on the two of them cuz they were his only real threats. This jutsu is nearly impossible to break but some how Naruto was able to break through to Nagato with his fight with him. THAT'S WHY MADARA WENT TO SEE NARUTO. HE WANTED TO KNOW HOW NARUTO FREE'D NAGATO
    You forgot to put in your post IMO(in my opinion) cause what you said doesnt seem close to being a fact. Like Rosuto Taisei stated please present some references from the manga pages of how is this possible.

    Ima just say this one more time, like everyone here who pays attention:
    That dark figure behind Sasuke is the representation of his chakra, his chakra is THAT EVIL. Thats all it is, no super guessing cause its because of this or that or he has a kyuubi BS. (But Jugo knows something we dont). Sasuke has his own inner demon which is his hatred for the shinobi world that has betrayed him as Tobi stated, and has totally consumed him. On the other hand, a couple of chapters back (correct me if Im wrong) I think Sasuke said something about his own new jutsu that he wants to try, maybe, just maybe this might be it. And I really really doubt this is the NEW MOON JUTSU plan that Madara has. Im pretty sure Madara will be there the moment that plan is unfolded with a sinister smile not all the way over there somewhere talking to Naruto. But like I said correct me if Im wrong, bring the pudding where the proof is. Im intrested.

    Zurita210 i think your right... KIDS LoL! Take it easy on them. But I feel you, they start throwing things in a tantrum like what they want to happen in the story as facts, and assume too much and jump to the conclusion as they want to see fit. i.e. Naruto becoming kage of all ninja world with all demons in him and doing a kamehameha and teleporting in sage mode with a sharingan in one eye and the byakugan in the other BS... hahahahahaha
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SageD View Post
    great points i like how you brought some DBZ in it i feelt had alot of DBZ like how is goku and is vegeta.
    What he said; Dito; Agreed.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    [QUOTE=Zurita210;1370225]Alright first of all the dark figure behind Sauske isnt a demon or something that has to do with the curse seal, I can tell there's a lot of young people in here who cant tell when Kishi is symbolizing something or using a figure of speech of someway. The Dark monster figure symbolizes Sauske's hatred and feelings of revenge, pretty much evil feelings. Someone who is turning evil. Another thing the curse mark was removed by Itachi during their fight, its even said afterwards by I forgot who, I think Madara tells Sauske that after Madara retrieves him from the Itachi fight and reveals who he is. 3rd Juggo heals him by fusing some of his chakra with Sauske and clearly states THAT BECUAE SAUSKE WAS ABLE TO WITHSTAND AND SURVIVE THE CURSE MARK GIVEN TO HIM BY OROCHIMARU THEN HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND AND SURVIVE THE CHAKRA FUSION TO HEAL SAUSKE!!! Im sure people have gone over this already but some KIDS dont understand./QUOTE]

    Well I understand your reason for believing that but you can't just say people that beleive that it has something to do with Juggo are wrong first like I and other people have stated juggo seemed to know what was going on with saskue and was about to say something. Also you may be right but wouldn't the evil and hatered in heart add power to the thing juggo gave . But these are just my opinions.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by narutoWannabe366 View Post
    And sasuke is becomeing the antagonist of the whole storythis which is leading to Naruto Vs Sasuke in the end
    yea I agree it is getting to the point of peace vs hatered.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 460 Discussion / 461 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by narutoWannabe366 View Post
    naruto wount go... he knows they want the kyuubi, besides madara has no other use for naruto but just the bijuu.

    .
    Yea i know but i think this is leading to leaving the village.
     
         

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