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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    You make Byakugan users seem like they are Deva Path....
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

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    this thread got big

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    Yeah I know lol, I'm surprised it was on here for so long.
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    Kakashi stated this in the series
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    I agree, but we've yet to see a shinobi who wields the Byakugan on the same level as an EMS or Rinnegan user.
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    it was ok iguess some points yea u had a point but then others were just a mistake like to say it could go against perfect susano is one. like idoubt the user would have enough chakra to block the entire sword of that giant thing. gaara barely blockd the mini version. and the meteor is another example. he needs to block from 50meters besides im pretty sure he can see it coming so yea and its a meteor its not gonna be a few rocks he can just toss aside
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    Good points but obviously the plot is in the favor of Uchiha eyes. It is possible given the information that you have posted for someone with byakugan to defeat almost any opponent and realistically this could happen if they perfected Taijutsu to strike an opponents chakra points and learn some Ninjutsu too to be able to attack and defend from a powerful opponent. With the power of ninjutsu a byakugan user can become really strong. Nice thready
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by EternalKaze7 View Post
    Good points but obviously the plot is in the favor of Uchiha eyes. It is possible given the information that you have posted for someone with byakugan to defeat almost any opponent and realistically this could happen if they perfected Taijutsu to strike an opponents chakra points and learn some Ninjutsu too to be able to attack and defend from a powerful opponent. With the power of ninjutsu a byakugan user can become really strong. Nice thready
    Thanks, that pretty much sums up the entire thread. A good byakugan user can beat any type of sharingan user.
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    It would just take a Shodaime/Nidaime/Madara level Hyuuga to do these things, realistically. Even Sannin would suffice I suppose.
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by Vexorian View Post
    It would just take a Shodaime/Nidaime/Madara level Hyuuga to do these things, realistically. Even Sannin would suffice I suppose.
    I think anyone of kakashi or guys level would suffice. So Hiashi I think could accomplish such a feat. His skills are far superior to Neji's.
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    But the truth is that no one of Byakugan users can defeat Sasuke. Even Hinata's father couldn't.
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    Nice effort, but no. The Sharingan literally is the medium between this world and the heavens in the Naruto universe, whose abilities are actually faintly more advanced than the Rinnegan depending on it's attenuation—which is why it received such a vital role in the latter half of the manga.

    メスメリズムの眼 “mesmerative eye

    占いの眼 “eye of divination

    The Sharingan is not a regression from the Samsara eyes, but rather its own distinctive eye birthed from the Elder Son’s genetic abnormalities.

    The two above have lavish subsections that led its “other” name.

    天の瞳 “Pupils birthed of the heavens” differing from the eyes.
     
         
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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

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    Final counter argument
    Naruto vs Neji part 1
    Neji: Master of byakugan and strongest Genin atm
    Guess who won?
    Plot.
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by Varrah View Post
    Nice effort, but no. The Sharingan literally is the medium between this world and the heavens in the Naruto universe, whose abilities are actually faintly more advanced than the Rinnegan depending on it's attenuation—which is why it received such a vital role in the latter half of the manga.

    メスメリズムの眼 “mesmerative eye

    占いの眼 “eye of divination

    The Sharingan is not a regression from the Samsara eyes, but rather its own distinctive eye birthed from the Elder Son’s genetic abnormalities.

    The two above have lavish subsections that led its “other” name.

    天の瞳 “Pupils birthed of the heavens” differing from the eyes.
    There's so much wrong with this. The sharingan will never have abilities more advanced then the Rinnegan. When the Sharingan can allows the user to use all 5 elements, define gravity with your hand, revive dead, shoot missiles, suck the soul out of someone, summon various creatures, and use dead bodies as weapons you let me know.
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    There's so much wrong with this. The sharingan will never have abilities more advanced then the Rinnegan. When the Sharingan can allows the user to use all 5 elements, define gravity with your hand, revive dead, shoot missiles, suck the soul out of someone, summon various creatures, and use dead bodies as weapons you let me know.
    The Sharingan is it's own doujutsu and only becomes stronger when fused with its other half, thus becoming the Rinnegan. The Rinnegan itself is stronger, but the Sharingan when met with it's other half surpasses this power. Because now it is able to perform not only it's own abilities, but the abilities of the Rinnegan as well, so collectively, the Sharingan strength is greater. The Rinnegan cannot exercise Sharingan techniques because it is its own doujutsu, but the Sharingan can exercise its own powers, and the Rinnegan's when met with its other half (Senju DNA).
     
         
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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    According to the lee and his ninja pals spin off series, the byakugan can do anything, even determine what ingredients are inn a bowl of ramen and what it tastes like.
     
         
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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by Varrah View Post
    The Sharingan is it's own doujutsu and only becomes stronger when fused with its other half, thus becoming the Rinnegan. The Rinnegan itself is stronger, but the Sharingan when met with it's other half surpasses this power. Because now it is able to perform not only it's own abilities, but the abilities of the Rinnegan as well, so collectively, the Sharingan strength is greater. The Rinnegan cannot exercise Sharingan techniques because it is its own doujutsu, but the Sharingan can exercise its own powers, and the Rinnegan's when met with its other half (Senju DNA).
    The user would be switching between the sharingan and the rinnegan. Therefore it really isn't saying much that its stronger because the user unlocked the rinnegan.
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    I mostly disagree with your points.. everyone agree that byakugan is knownly as one of the superior eye .. its abilities is as your explanations.. but i only agree with the facts .. such as the eye 360 abilities, see chakra and so on.. but when its comes to ur theory in defeating the EMS, susanoo, amaterasu, kamui.. its makes ur value-able facts ruins..

    but i admire your efforts in thinking, and typing those.. but, everyone know that its only a dream.. its shown that a superior hyuuga isn't much helps when its comes to fighting Madara or 6 pains..

    from the previous hyuuga battle.. its shown that they aren't tough enough.. even hinata father has a hard timw fighting his neji father.. hem, let me put like this.. hyuuga is basically like u say .. is superior when it come to taijitsu... and they are also easily beaten too.. why because they dont have superior sheild.. and they attacks are not massive as tailed beast bomb.. they eye tech is actually is helping them when battle but not making them invinsible
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    nice thread though...
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    i like this.
    aand honestly i think in this theory there is a big plot twist hidden for the near future.
    i mean, hinata has just arrived at narutos battle.
    guess the majority would be surprised, when she takes down obito or even madara :-D
    (sasuke is not an option, coz its heavily foreshadowed that his final opponent is naruto)
    so i think, kishi did not just boost byakugan in the beginning to let it drop out of importance, as it seems right now...
    would not be surprised, if all those uchiha-fanboys will rub their eyes before the manga is finished!
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    Somethings I find wrong with this thread is.
    You base all of your evidence on heavenly rotation but all we have seen from it is blocking kunais and punches. Im pretty sure its not even comparable to the force Susano can call forth. Also as far as I have seen not everyone in the Hyuuga clan can even use it so you cant use the base byakugan beats base sharingan because of heavenly rotation because all we know it doesnt come with base byakugan. And all you have proven up to this point is they can defend against it but thats only half the battle. But everyone has their opinion and I respect that.
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    After reading your full post, I found out that Bayakugan User can stop the attacks up to a certain point but Bayakugan user can not attack the Sharingan user. While Sharingan user can attack and defend both.
    So IMO, even Bayakugan user has skills to stop the attacks, Sharingan user still has upper hand and Sharinga has more chance of winning against Bayakugan. Hence SHARINGAN is stronger than Bayakugan.

    Also I noticed that you put Bayakugan's insight and Heaven Rotation as counter to every attack by Sharingan user. This can not work out realistically during battle situations. No offense.
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    i agree with u on that bt i dont think than neji can dodge from susanoo's atacks.i would love to see a comparation between byakugan and rinnegan too
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    Just not real that Byakugan counters Sharingan. We didn't see such facts in manga or anime. So we can't say that Byakugan is better than Sharingan.
     
         
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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    im not gonna read lol

    i liked it for your effort tho
    what are u on a forum for if your gonna say not gonna read? people sound so stupid when they do that..
     
         

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    Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu

    you did great man
     
         

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