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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Narutofan4203
I'm sorry, neji's speed was 3 in part 1, my bad.
Even so, his speed and stamina is nothing to that of an uchiha
Itachi has a 2.5 in stamina and Sasuke has a 3.5 while Neji has a 3.5. Neji has a 4.5 in speed while Sasuke has a 4.5 while Itachi has a 5. Your point is worthless.
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Narutofan4203
The only thing uchiha's can do against Uchiha's are know where their attack is going to go and waste chakra using the revolving chakra thingy, then while their busy with that the Uchiha is behind them and.. yeah
If heavenly rotation is going no attack is going to hurt them and if they even tried to puncture it they would be thrown apart.
 Originally Posted by Narutofan4203
PNJ For most of what kakashi did, Or the chakra that the Bijuu's were emitting he picked up somehow
Sasuke's shunshin actually touched obito for a split second, even though he was acting
PNJ doesn't exist. Its just how kishi writes his stories.
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Unbiased
If heavenly rotation is going no attack is going to hurt them and if they even tried to puncture it they would be thrown apart.
PNJ doesn't exist. Its just how kishi writes his stories.
PNJ is a funny way of saying Plot makes certain things happen, or plot saves/is saving someone
They honestly do have no counters for even normal uchiha, but heavenly rotation (thanks for name btw)
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
1. unless edo tensei the same thing happens to a hyuga that happened to Nagato. his body gets destroyed so the point made they can't beat amaterasu
2. how is a hyuga gonna get through susanoo without getting ***** slapped? yeah hes just gonna walk up and the uchiha is just gonna stand there like an idiot.
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
finally someone who thinks the same thing as i do. kishi did say that byakugun is a stronger dojutsu than sharingun. i dont get it why the hell did he abandon byakugun, it sems like he doesnot even care. he developed sharingun into so many different levels, but left byakugun stranded... im not really biggest fan of byakugun but after saying that it is stronger than sharingun and then not caring about it, when you have given so much powerups to sharingun just doesnot sem right... mostly i feel sorry for neji, it doesnot even sem like he is ever in the manga anymore...
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
Interesting and most likely true. Only five characters out of the entire clans history have had MS and only two have EMS. So compared to the three tomoe yeah, byakugan is better. The MS might be a different story since it allows even greater insight then the regular sharingan and it has those ridiculous attacks. Whether heavenly rotation can defend against amaterasu is yet to be determined, it seems plausible but is yet to be proved.
Off topic, one of your manga pages actually answered one of my questions from the new chapter from Wednesday. Why was that Hyuuga holding Ino when she was doing her mind transfer tech? It might have been to carry her while she was out of her body, but also the page stated that a Hyuuga can help increase or decrease someones chakra flow, which would make their techniques more effective.
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Narutofan4203
PNJ is a funny way of saying Plot makes certain things happen, or plot saves/is saving someone
They honestly do have no counters for even normal uchiha, but heavenly rotation (thanks for name btw)
They can sense attacks just like the sharingan so they're plenty of counters. Not to mention they can counter any genjutsu.
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Unbiased
They can sense attacks just like the sharingan so they're plenty of counters. Not to mention they can counter any genjutsu. 
didn't i just counter this argument a page ago >.>
If uchiha's keep their distance it's an easy win, if they rush in yeah they lose easily
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
i really liked neji fight with that spider guy. it was the part where neji showed the secrets of his byakugun. it was really awsome...
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by slimreaper
1. unless edo tensei the same thing happens to a hyuga that happened to Nagato. his body gets destroyed so the point made they can't beat amaterasu
2. how is a hyuga gonna get through susanoo without getting ***** slapped? yeah hes just gonna walk up and the uchiha is just gonna stand there like an idiot.
1-Nagato was just laying their burning, The byakugan helps sense attacks so they know when amaterasu is coming and can use Heavenly rotation.
2-Speed
 Originally Posted by reizon
finally someone who thinks the same thing as i do. kishi did say that byakugun is a stronger dojutsu than sharingun. i dont get it why the hell did he abandon byakugun, it sems like he doesnot even care. he developed sharingun into so many different levels, but left byakugun stranded... im not really biggest fan of byakugun but after saying that it is stronger than sharingun and then not caring about it, when you have given so much powerups to sharingun just doesnot sem right... mostly i feel sorry for neji, it doesnot even sem like he is ever in the manga anymore...
I feel ya, kishi wants naruto to end
 Originally Posted by DESTRUCTO
Interesting and most likely true. Only five characters out of the entire clans history have had MS and only two have EMS. So compared to the three tomoe yeah, byakugan is better. The MS might be a different story since it allows even greater insight then the regular sharingan and it has those ridiculous attacks. Whether heavenly rotation can defend against amaterasu is yet to be determined, it seems plausible but is yet to be proved.
Off topic, one of your manga pages actually answered one of my questions from the new chapter from Wednesday. Why was that Hyuuga holding Ino when she was doing her mind transfer tech? It might have been to carry her while she was out of her body, but also the page stated that a Hyuuga can help increase or decrease someones chakra flow, which would make their techniques more effective.
1-If someone can release chakra from their body anything touching it(naruto's hand) for example will be blown back. Therefore amaterasu falls under the same concept.
2-I can't answer your last question, I would say he was just holding her or injecting chakra into Ino as she was controlling the 10 tails long enough to move the TBB.
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
You did pretty good, but it still wont be enough fror the massive uchiha base to beleiveso you are gonna be flamed pretty heavily like all others who have done this. (me included)
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Narutofan4203
didn't i just counter this argument a page ago >.>
If uchiha's keep their distance it's an easy win, if they rush in yeah they lose easily
That's not a counter then. Besides the Uchiha's can't harm them from a distance..Didn't I just counter that argument like when I made the thread in all my points?
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by fastrthnwind
You did pretty good, but it still wont be enough fror the massive uchiha base to beleiveso you are gonna be flamed pretty heavily like all others who have done this. (me included)
They can't prove their right as that would be going against the manga so I could care less if they want to flame. They flame because they know they're wrong.
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The Byakugan user of NB!
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Narutofan4203
The only thing uchiha's can do against Uchiha's are know where their attack is going to go and waste chakra using the revolving chakra thingy, then while their busy with that the Uchiha is behind them and.. yeah
 Originally Posted by Narutofan4203
There's no proof that it can
Still dosen't know what's gonna happen next, OP.
He just knows where the attack is coming from and can TRY to dodge but Neji's speed is like 3 in the databook so I doubt he could anyways
And even if rotation a combination works wonders on hyuugas
What about that pik do you not see or understand? He senses and see's anything chakra! Fact of the manga!
With that he can prepare accordingly for what is about too happen.
Neji can almost accurately detects and deflects all attacks!

Period! whether he can react in time is another thing. but with his Chakra control, split second moves is nothing for him. haha
Oh and btw since you clearly know nothing of hyugas, they can omit chakra from any part of their body perfectly too defend or protect!

Rotation is just used too knock the attacks away or back at the opponent. They do not have too use rotation everytime
 Originally Posted by Unbiased
I can enjoy boobs without my eyes lol
The manga says sense so he can see it and dodge it. A taijutsu master is quick on his feat. Also the databooks states kakashi has a 3 in stamina yet he has used Kamui 5 times + raikiris + earth style before he got chakra. Not everything is absolute.
 Originally Posted by Unbiased
Itachi has a 2.5 in stamina and Sasuke has a 3.5 while Neji has a 3.5. Neji has a 4.5 in speed while Sasuke has a 4.5 while Itachi has a 5. Your point is worthless.
Preach! Its obv he knows nothing about hyugas and is just hating just too hate. I mean if your going too hate, atleast have your facts strait! lmao
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Unbiased
1-Nagato was just laying their burning, The byakugan helps sense attacks so they know when amaterasu is coming and can use Heavenly rotation.
2-Speed
I feel ya, kishi wants naruto to end
1-If someone can release chakra from their body anything touching it(naruto's hand) for example will be blown back. Therefore amaterasu falls under the same concept.
2-I can't answer your last question, I would say he was just holding her or injecting chakra into Ino as she was controlling the 10 tails long enough to move the TBB.
It helps but it can't fully forsee anything like Sharingan, Hyuuga's aren't that fast.
How about use Amaterasu all around them so nothing works? If hyuuga's jump in the air, Substitute, that shouldn't disrupt your flow at all
Another way is when they are trying to figure out how to get out of amaterasu, use clones then genjutsu
Uchiha's take hyuugas high diff and lifethreatening injuries with 3 tomoe, but low diff with MS
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Draegod
What about that pik do you not see or understand? He senses and see's anything chakra! Fact of the manga!
With that he can prepare accordingly for what is about too happen.
Neji can almost accurately detects and deflects all attacks!

Period! whether he can react in time is another thing. but with his Chakra control, split second moves is nothing for him. haha
Oh and btw since you clearly know nothing of hyugas, they can omit chakra from any part of their body perfectly too defend or protect!

Rotation is just used too knock the attacks away or back at the opponent. They do not have too use rotation everytime
Preach! Its obv he knows nothing about hyugas and is just hating just too hate. I mean if your going too hate, atleast have your facts strait! lmao
Its just hating to hate. Neji and Sasuke have the same speed yet he thinks Neji is slow. He looked at the databook and stated things that simply aren't true or that are out of context. Not to mention he shows a complete disregard for manga facts.
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Draegod
What about that pik do you not see or understand? He senses and see's anything chakra! Fact of the manga!
With that he can prepare accordingly for what is about too happen.
Neji can almost accurately detects and deflects all attacks!

Period! whether he can react in time is another thing. but with his Chakra control, split second moves is nothing for him. haha
Oh and btw since you clearly know nothing of hyugas, they can omit chakra from any part of their body perfectly too defend or protect!

Rotation is just used too knock the attacks away or back at the opponent. They do not have too use rotation everytime
Preach! Its obv he knows nothing about hyugas and is just hating just too hate. I mean if your going too hate, atleast have your facts strait! lmao
Ok, tell me what rotation does against a susano'o hand bigger then it, and a sword 5x bigger then it + it dosen't last forever
Uchiha's have much more speed then neji (the only strong hyuuga, other are fodder with the exception of hinata)
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Unbiased
Its just hating to hate. Neji and Sasuke have the same speed yet he thinks Neji is slow. He looked at the databook and stated things that simply aren't true or that are out of context. Not to mention he shows a complete disregard for manga facts.
I have seen no speed feats from Neji, as Sasuke touched obito's godly kamui for one second.
He can react to a slash from mifune, possibly the strongest swordsman alive atm.
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Narutofan4203
It helps but it can't fully forsee anything like Sharingan, Hyuuga's aren't that fast.
How about use Amaterasu all around them so nothing works? If hyuuga's jump in the air, Substitute, that shouldn't disrupt your flow at all
Another way is when they are trying to figure out how to get out of amaterasu, use clones then genjutsu
Uchiha's take hyuugas high diff and lifethreatening injuries with 3 tomoe, but low diff with MS
1-Neji is just as fast as sasuke according to the databook. He has a 4.5 in speed which is .5 from the fastest possible.
2-Heavenly rotation removes amaterasu around them thus no need to jump in the air.
3-They aren't trying to get out of amaterasu they just heavenly spin like always. Besides that when releasing your chakra your disrupt genjutsu so getting them in a genjutsu while their using heavenly rotation is impossible due to chakra being forced out of all chakra pores. Remember the naruto vs itachi in ealy part 2 That's what he was doing.
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
Susano'o is atleast 50+ feet tall, imagine an entire arm just sweeping, what does neji do against that besides wasting even more of his chakra on a Rotation? Hyuuga's have one blindspot behind the neck, The other 2-3 arms can focus on that weakspot while one arm gives Neji a hard time and wastes his chakra
Speaking about chakra, Uchiha's have 2-3x more chakra then hyuugas, hyuugas have average reserves
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Narutofan4203
I have seen no speed feats from Neji, as Sasuke touched obito's godly kamui for one second.
He can react to a slash from mifune, possibly the strongest swordsman alive atm.
You don't need speed feats its fact that neji has a 4.5 in speed thus he is a fast character. Not to mention he can sense all of his opponents attacks due to the byakugan he isn't getting hit unless they know the weakness. (which only hyuuga's and kidimaro know)
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Narutofan4203
Susano'o is atleast 50+ feet tall, imagine an entire arm just sweeping, what does neji do against that besides wasting even more of his chakra on a Rotation? Hyuuga's have one blindspot behind the neck, The other 2-3 arms can focus on that weakspot while one arm gives Neji a hard time and wastes his chakra
Speaking about chakra, Uchiha's have 2-3x more chakra then hyuugas, hyuugas have average reserves
Databook states their stamina is actually the same and lowe then hyuuga's. They aren't senju they don't have loads of chakra. Furthermore only kidimaro and hyuuga's know the weakspot of the Byakugan. Its not something you can just pick up. Furthermore the Hyuuga can disrupt the Susanoo like I showed in that section.
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Unbiased
1-Neji is just as fast as sasuke according to the databook. He has a 4.5 in speed which is .5 from the fastest possible.
2-Heavenly rotation removes amaterasu around them thus no need to jump in the air.
3-They aren't trying to get out of amaterasu they just heavenly spin like always. Besides that when releasing your chakra your disrupt genjutsu so getting them in a genjutsu while their using heavenly rotation is impossible due to chakra being forced out of all chakra pores. Remember the naruto vs itachi in ealy part 2 That's what he was doing.
1. They can be equal in speed, yes, but I'm speaking about shunshin no jutsu
2. As for amaterasu around them, I mean an entire circle, not close to them, but close enough so they can't get out. And when amaterasu is activated, we've seen it instantly touches some one, Neji's shunshin isn't that great to avoid it, 360 vision again is NOT forseeing
3. While they are focusing on getting out of the genjutsu, Think about what's happening in the real world, they could be getting stabbed easily
Neji is great but hyuuga's get stomped by smart combos
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Unbiased
Databook states their stamina is actually the same and lowe then hyuuga's. They aren't senju they don't have loads of chakra. Furthermore only kidimaro and hyuuga's know the weakspot of the Byakugan. Its not something you can just pick up. Furthermore the Hyuuga can disrupt the Susanoo like I showed in that section.
Senju's have bodily forces and longetivity
Uchiha possess the Strong Chakra and spiritual energy
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Re: (Facts and Manga pages) the Byakugan is the 2nd strongest dojutsu
 Originally Posted by Unbiased
1-If someone can release chakra from their body anything touching it(naruto's hand) for example will be blown back. Therefore amaterasu falls under the same concept.
2-I can't answer your last question, I would say he was just holding her or injecting chakra into Ino as she was controlling the 10 tails long enough to move the TBB.
That's why I said it was plausible. I agree, theoretically it could work, but Kishi hasn't shown it happen, therefore it is disputable whether it is possible or not. Just like Nagato repelling it with shinra tensei. It seemed plausible before he did it, but until it was shown it could still be disputed.
And... I wasn't looking for an answer I was stating how one of your images helped me figure out why that Hyuuga was holding Ino. Which you agreed with. Don't worry I'm not against you. I have been on this forum for almost two years and i see how guys jump at things just because it isn't shown or stated in the manga. Hence my response. Plausible and most likely, but until Kishi spends a couple hours and draws a picture of Neji expelling amaterasu, from sasuke, with his heavenly rotation, people will try and negate your theory by stating that "but it hasn't happened in the manga..." no matter how much sense it makes.
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