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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    You should probably never make another thread, unless this was supposed to be a joke. In that case, you're just a biased fanboy.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    i always get the feeling that you make threads in the hope of getting them to the hottest
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Sasuke was smarter as a 12 year old. His new found powers have made him rash and arrogant.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Braveknight View Post
    no.

    kiri was from kakashi. If you mean Kirin, oro teached him how to do it

    his black was curse mark from oro

    sasuke didnt win he failed to capture it, minato was able to seal half of it in him self and in his son

    no for example he thought he would win against kages. but he got raped
    Fail

    Oro said "he never seen that kind of shape manipulation before" and that was Chidori Sharp Spear and he even says "who is that" which means he never seen that kind of technique so you saying Oro taught Sasuke Kirin is a total BS.






    Okay, i got question for you....how can Oro teach Sasuke Kirin when his Element is only Wind and not Lighting?
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Sasuke's "black" Chidori was only useable when he has Curse Mark activated because of its Chakra just like how Naruto can use his "purple" Rasengan. Oh, and he didn't win against Killer Bee. Sasuke's team was in a room recovering, while Killer Bee was outside the village gates celebrating. Your Argument is Invalid.

    Minato > Sasuke
     
         
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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrafty View Post
    Sasuke's "black" Chidori was only useable when he has Curse Mark activated because of its Chakra just like how Naruto can sue his "purple" Rasengan. Orochimaru helped Sasuke perfect Kirin. He didn't win. His team was in a room recovering, while Killer Bee was outside the village gate celebrating. Argument Invalid.

    Minato>Sasuke
    there is nothing in the manga showing Oro helped sasuke perfect kirin...
    At most, like kakashi and yamato, he explained nature manipulation and let him do it himself..

    THE THING IS, Unlike naruto, Sasuke was a genius who already understood nature manipulation since part 1... Kakashi stated that... so Orochimaru actually could do nothing at all..
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Braveknight View Post
    no.

    kiri was from kakashi. If you mean Kirin, oro teached him how to do it

    his black was curse mark from oro

    sasuke didnt win he failed to capture it, minato was able to seal half of it in him self and in his son

    no for example he thought he would win against kages. but he got raped
    Kirin was a technique Sasuke created by himself.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    wait wait wait, sasuke won againts bee? are yo serious? he got his ass handed to him, if he was by himself, bee would have been able to kill him.
    Minato was the hokage, he knew things most of the people in the village didnt know. He freaking fought in wars. that gives him war and battle experiences. your logic is not relevent to "intelligence"
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    No, just no...
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Sorry you failed much hard... You didn't only say that Sasuke is somehow stronger than Minato but in the field of intelligence...
    Pure insolence...
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Sasuke is too young to surpass Minato in terms of being a genius etc... Though he's well on his way... the boy is only 16..Give him 2 more years
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by PuppyDogGeneral View Post
    Minato Created a Rasengan, Sasuke created a Kirin

    Darui has water based black lightning (imitation), Sasuke had the real deal, black chidori.

    Minato and Sasuke successfully fought the two strongest tailed beast, and won.

    Agree?
    Minato Created a Rasengan, Sasuke created a Kirin ---->
    OK... but kirin is not actually a jutsu it is just a well planned combination of series of jutsu and good control over situation


    Darui has water based black lightning (imitation), Sasuke had the real deal, black chidori ---->
    are you kidding me... it was just a way to show his dark side while using the cursed mark (even if you take that as a jutsu, it was just a gift from orochimaru... so sasuke didn't shake up a single nerve in his brain to develop that, on the other hand the dark lightning which darui has is a gift from 3rd raikage which 'actually' uses a huge mastery over lightning technique)


    Minato and Sasuke successfully fought the two strongest tailed beast, and won ---->
    minato fought kyuubi at a time when he was at a really tight situation. Still he one handedly manages to tactically deal with tobi within seconds and seal kyuubi in the next moment without loosing his cool... on other hand, sasuke was fully aware of his opponent with a full fledged team, still he was 'killed' two times, i would say suigetsu was better as a leader there(letting his teammates flea while engaging the hachibi himself and he did show some powers there)...... so, you dare not compare that punk (who doesn't care about anyone other than himself) with someone who sacrificed himself for the sake of his village.:mad:


    so, for me its a BIG NO !!!
     
         
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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    Sasuke is too young to surpass Minato in terms of being a genius etc... Though he's well on his way... the boy is only 16..Give him 2 more years
    was he a hokage? has he fought wars? is sasuke married? how many jutsus does sasuke know? 2 years? you are shitting me. he will surpass minato's knowledge but in 2 years? you are naive sir.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by nickalfred31 View Post
    was he a hokage? has he fought wars? is sasuke married? how many jutsus does sasuke know? 2 years? you are shitting me. he will surpass minato's knowledge but in 2 years? you are naive sir.
    you think being hokage is a true testament to your strength in the village? An Uchiha Will NEVER BE Hokage..... Not when the daiymo and elders have certain criteria to follow to make the next hokage candidate...

    Orochimaru already commented that Sasuke is more of a genius than what he was that age... and when he see's him, he realizes how stupid the people was to call him a genius in the first place.... Orochimaru is one of the most intelligence people in the manga mind you..
    Itachi is someone with intelligence comparable to that of kakashi and Minato.. .AND ITACHI IS 21.....

    Sasuke is too young at 16/17.... But he is progressing at a rate faster than any character in the manga... Give him a few more years and he will surpass his brother easily..



    PS- What does wars have to do with this? We are talking about intelligence are we not?
    And for your info, Minato fought in only 1 war... and died shortly after becoming hokage

    Sasuke fought against 1000 ninja at once and defeated them all in his training with Orochimaru .. So I don't see your point... they can both defeat hundreds of fodder..

    not that none of this matters in any case
     
         
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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    oro knows about kirin so it is highly likely he helped sasuke with it and other jutsus [1]
    plus doesnt sasuke always say teach me a new jutsu orochimaru, they work together [2]
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    you think being hokage is a true testament to your strength in the village? An Uchiha Will NEVER BE Hokage..... Not when the daiymo and elders have certain criteria to follow to make the next hokage candidate...

    Orochimaru already commented that Sasuke is more of a genius than what he was that age... and when he see's him, he realizes how stupid the people was to call him a genius in the first place.... Orochimaru is one of the most intelligence people in the manga mind you..
    Itachi is someone with intelligence comparable to that of kakashi and Minato.. .AND ITACHI IS 21.....

    Sasuke is too young at 16/17.... But he is progressing at a rate faster than any character in the manga... Give him a few more years and he will surpass his brother easily..
    when one becomes hokage he knows more that gives him intelligence A LOT of intelligence. Oro called hm a genius because he was smarter than everyone in HIS own class/age. you dont think the 3rd hokage or jiraiya think minato wasnt genius at a young age also? You said 2 years to surpass minato's intelligence, its gonna take more than that.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by nickalfred31 View Post
    wait wait wait, sasuke won againts bee? are yo serious? he got his ass handed to him, if he was by himself, bee would have been able to kill him.
    Minato was the hokage, he knew things most of the people in the village didnt know. He freaking fought in wars. that gives him war and battle experiences. your logic is not relevent to "intelligence"
    How hard is it to understand this? Sasuke and his team were fighting to capture Bee where as Bee didn't care about anything he even went full Bijuu and use TBB on Taka.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    No, Minato is smarter then Sasuke! Sasuke may have created kirin, but Minato created A LOT of techniques that require little chakra with no hand seals or time needed to build up chakra.

    Sasuke is smart, but not on Minato's level
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by sulanis View Post
    No, Minato is smarter then Sasuke! Sasuke may have created kirin, but Minato created A LOT of techniques that require little chakra with no hand seals or time needed to build up chakra.

    Sasuke is smart, but not on Minato's level
    Minato create Rasengan and FTG which i think was from his Clan, but the rest of his Techinques are from Tobirama.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by nickalfred31 View Post
    when one becomes hokage he knows more that gives him intelligence A LOT of intelligence. Oro called hm a genius because he was smarter than everyone in HIS own class/age. you dont think the 3rd hokage or jiraiya think minato wasnt genius at a young age also? You said 2 years to surpass minato's intelligence, its gonna take more than that.

    Getting the title hokage doesn't give you intelligence...Tsunade is just as smart as she was before getting the title.... As I said before, The title hokage is only given to those who have had connections with the past hokage... and it wouldn't matter if Sasuke was the smarted and strongest in the leaf village by far.. He would never get the title because he was an uchiha...

    Orochimaru wasn't commenting on the people in Sasuke's class. Orochimaru is saying that Sasuske is FAR more intelligent and far more capable than he ever was at age.... so much so, that looking at him makes him feel he wasn't deserving of the title "genius"....Remember that Orochimaru grew up to be the person the Third Hokage was going to choose for the hokage spot....but because to his inner sinister ways he chose Minato..

    2-3 years to be on the intelligence level of kakashi,minato etc
     
         

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