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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    He might be very smart but he is immature and still way too young to get compared to Minato who was also a father and hokage with great responsibility. So yeah, Minato definitely outsmarts him for now.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Black Chidori was only used with Curse Mark and it was just something to look cool like Vermillion Rasengan. Sasuke doesn't know Black Lightning release. If he did he would implement it in his other lightning based jutsu, to improve their power. If he could do it with chidori as he wanted, we would have seen it again along with black lightning chidori true spear and/or chidori stream. The creation of jutsu is effected by intelligence, but it's more like the creative portion of their intelligence.

    Minato predicted Naruto would grow to defeat Obito, which is inevitable. Minato was able to defeat Obito, and I'm not trying to use A>B>C but Sasuke not only can't defeat Obito, he had to be saved by Obito in multiple situations. Sasuke fights with rage, and rage leads his battle strategies to predictable directions. He rushed in the Kage Summit and almost died several times, saved by Gaara, saved by Obito. Sasuke isn't bad, but he isn't that good at keeping a level head. Cool heads prevail.

    Minato has a cool head. Minato protected the village, sealed Kurama, and left a legacy for Naruto to follow. Even his Rasengan technique was perfectly engineered for Naruto and for his expansion on the tech with things like TBB Rasengan. He even made a fail-proof in the seal to stop Kurama from completely taking over Naruto during the fight with Pein.

    Also Rasengan was much harder to create than Karin. Rasengan is change in chakra form, Kirin is just a large scale elemental jutsu. Rasengan can have multitudes of different versions that can implement change in chakra form and nature like Rasenshuriken. They can also be created and expanded without hand-seals. FTG also wasn't mentioned, and a space time jutsu as powerful as that outranks anything Sasuke has produced. Sasuke's strongest abilities are from the Sharingan and he customized one of them (blaze release).
     
         
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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Klaves View Post
    Black Chidori was only used with Curse Mark and it was just something to look cool like Vermillion Rasengan. Sasuke doesn't know Black Lightning release. If he did he would implement it in his other lightning based jutsu, to improve their power. If he could do it with chidori as he wanted, we would have seen it again along with black lightning chidori true spear and/or chidori stream. The creation of jutsu is effected by intelligence, but it's more like the creative portion of their intelligence.

    Minato predicted Naruto would grow to defeat Obito, which is inevitable. Minato was able to defeat Obito, and I'm not trying to use A>B>C but Sasuke not only can't defeat Obito, he had to be saved by Obito in multiple situations. Sasuke fights with rage, and rage leads his battle strategies to predictable directions. He rushed in the Kage Summit and almost died several times, saved by Gaara, saved by Obito. Sasuke isn't bad, but he isn't that good at keeping a level head. Cool heads prevail.

    Minato has a cool head. Minato protected the village, sealed Kurama, and left a legacy for Naruto to follow. Even his Rasengan technique was perfectly engineered for Naruto and for his expansion on the tech with things like TBB Rasengan. He even made a fail-proof in the seal to stop Kurama from completely taking over Naruto during the fight with Pein.

    Also Rasengan was much harder to create than Karin. Rasengan is change in chakra form, Kirin is just a large scale elemental jutsu. Rasengan can have multitudes of different versions that can implement change in chakra form and nature like Rasenshuriken. They can also be created and expanded without hand-seals. FTG also wasn't mentioned, and an space time jutsu as powerful as that outranks anything Sasuke has produced. Sasuke's strongest abilities are from the Sharingan and he customized one of them (blaze release).
    Minato predicted Naruto would grow to defeat Obito, which is inevitable
    The sage frog predicted Jiraya's student would bring peace, Jiraya thought it was Minato...
    Minato knew if he died that day, it would have to be naruto who would grow up to be Jiraya's student... Not much of a feat when your plan is based on a prophecy

    Kirin is manipulation of natural lightning
    Rasengan is just basic chakra moulding, something most ninja can do... the only trick is getting it to rotate...
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by FTG V2 View Post
    Minato create Rasengan and FTG which i think was from his Clan, but the rest of his Techinques are from Tobirama.
    Wtf. Since when did Tobirama teach Minato. He was dead before Minato was even thought of. Also he created FTG. If his clan did do you think that he would be their only prodigy. No.

    Your not using your brain.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    The sage frog predicted Jiraya's student would bring peace, Jiraya thought it was Minato...
    Minato knew if he died that day, it would have to be naruto who would grow up to be Jiraya's student... Not much of a feat when your plan is based on a prophecy

    Kirin is manipulation of natural lightning
    Rasengan is just basic chakra moulding, something most ninja can do... the only trick is getting it to rotate...
    J-man also thought Nagato was the child of prophecy, and Minato might also have heard that. J-man becoming Naruto's mentor was not set in stone either. Everything had to happen just as it did for things to work out. The seal Minato used, J-man's loosening of the seal, and the 8 tails cloak being activated to in turn activate Minato's chakra within the seal. This is much more planning than Sasuke has put into any one plan. When you also consider Minato saved infant Naruto from Obito, hit Obito (which is a feat in its own), and removed Obito's control of Kurama along with sealing it within Naruto after he had used RDS to half Kurama's chakra, it becomes pretty evident that Minato's had the big picture in mind, and the prophecy was only the basis of the plan he built.

    I don't recall seeing anyone other than the rasengan users molding pure chakra in their hands. Chakra control that they can use to run on water and other things like the Gentle Fist are different. There isn't any other non-elemental attack molded from pure chakra and held in the hand (even Jinton is not pure chakra since it is created from several elements), so molding pure chakra in a physical basis is only something rasengan users have done, let alone the rotation. Kirin manipulates natural lightning, which is cool, but water jutsu can manipulate natural water so elements being manipulated naturally is fairly common (much more common than people that have mastered rasengan). Also, it would be much more impressive if Karin was created from the user's chakra (in terms of creating the lightning itself instead of manipulating already existent lightning), like the rasengan.
     
         
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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    At the moment? No. In the future? Definitely.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Klaves View Post
    J-man also thought Nagato was the child of prophecy, and Minato might also have heard that. J-man becoming Naruto's mentor was not set in stone either. Everything had to happen just as it did for things to work out. The seal Minato used, J-man's loosening of the seal, and the 8 tails cloak being activated to in turn activate Minato's chakra within the seal. This is much more planning than Sasuke has put into any one plan. When you also consider Minato saved infant Naruto from Obito, hit Obito (which is a feat in its own), and removed Obito's control of Kurama along with sealing it within Naruto after he had used RDS to half Kurama's chakra, it becomes pretty evident that Minato's had the big picture in mind, and the prophecy was only the basis of the plan he built.

    I don't recall seeing anyone other than the rasengan users molding pure chakra in their hands. Chakra control that they can use to run on water and other things like the Gentle Fist are different. There isn't any other non-elemental attack molded from pure chakra and held in the hand (even Jinton is not pure chakra since it is created from several elements), so molding pure chakra in a physical basis is only something rasengan users have done, let alone the rotation. Kirin manipulates natural lightning, which is cool, but water jutsu can manipulate natural water so elements being manipulated naturally is fairly common (much more common than people that have mastered rasengan). Also, it would be much more impressive if Karin was created from the user's chakra, like the rasengan.

    there are many cases where people mold chakra around a weapon to form the shape, eg asuma.. it's chakra manipulation... Sakura can do it and does it with her punches.... Without a doubt minato is smart.. but what he did that night was a gamble based on a prophecy...,You keep mentioning tobi like if that's a person you can compare to others..

    Minato said it HIMSELF... . Unless you have a specific skillset of jutsu, he's not an opponent you can defeat..

    Thank god he had a space time jutsu that was faster than tobi's , otherwise, what could he do? ....... Not being able to defeat tobi is no negative feat for Sasuke, as Naruto doesn't work in an abc Manner....

    In a fight, Sasuke will be more than able to figure out that tobi materializes to attack and dematerializes to defend.. something even fu and torune figured out... But can he defend against it? Maybe not.....That means nothing....
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    sasuke is intelligent but not to minato's level.

    minato figured out obito's technique within 5 seconds.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post

    there are many cases where people mold chakra around a weapon to form the shape, eg asuma.. it's chakra manipulation... Sakura can do it and does it with her punches.... Without a doubt minato is smart.. but what he did that night was a gamble based on a prophecy...,You keep mentioning tobi like if that's a person you can compare to others..

    Minato said it HIMSELF... . Unless you have a specific skillset of jutsu, he's not an opponent you can defeat..

    Thank god he had a space time jutsu that was faster than tobi's , otherwise, what could he do? ....... Not being able to defeat tobi is no negative feat for Sasuke, as Naruto doesn't work in an abc Manner....

    In a fight, Sasuke will be more than able to figure out that tobi materializes to attack and dematerializes to defend.. something even fu and torune figured out... But can he defend against it? Maybe not.....That means nothing....
    Controlling chakra flow through the body like sakura's fists is just using the same chakra control that you would use to walk on water. She is simply building chakra up in her fists to increase her strength. That is not molding chakra, it is controlling the flow of it. The weapons like Asuma's knives are almost doing the same things as sakura's fists. The only differences are that it isn't part of the body and Asuma funneled wind chakra instead of pure chakra into the knives. This again is not chakra form. Nobody other than the rasengan users has actually created it outside of their bodies/weapons to manipulate it in a suspended state, alone in physical pure chakra form (Susano could possibly be considered pure chakra, but it is an inherited ability obtained from predetermined MS techniques, and doesn't seem to require much thought or effort other than strain from chakra use).

    I was talking about Obito just to show how successful Minato's plans were against another highly intelligent shinobi. Minato's plan saved the present and the future. Sasuke's plans seem to only revolve around the present most of the time, and they seldom go smoothly or as planned. The attack on the Kage Summit was a horrible plan, and was about as far from intelligent as you can get. A would have killed him if it wasn't for Gaara, and Jinton would have killed him if it wasn't for Obito hax. It just seems like Sasuke's plans work out because he has to eventually fight Naruto, and he can't die until then. It just seems like the plot is keeping him alive much more than his own intelligence, where as Minato's intelligence kept him alive until plot killed him, forcing him to create a long term plan.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    And Naruto i suppose >>>>> Sasuke O_o.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by KingHashirama View Post
    And Naruto i suppose >>>>> Sasuke O_o.
    Da fuk :sy: you trolling Sasuke

    Sasuke >>> Naruto
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by spade3dg View Post
    Wtf. Since when did Tobirama teach Minato. He was dead before Minato was even thought of. Also he created FTG. If his clan did do you think that he would be their only prodigy. No.

    Your not using your brain.
    Tobirama doesn't need to train Minato or be alive for Minato to know most of his Space Time Techniques....Minato got most of the Space Time Techniques from Konoha Ninjutsu Scrolls like Oro got Edo Tensei from Konoha Ninjutsu scrolls or how Naruto got Shadow Clones from the scroll.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Troll thread. Nothing in the OP has anything to do with intelligence and neither sasuke or minato defeated kurama.
    Sasuke suppressing it isnt defeating it. Minato sealing it isn't defeating it. Nobody can defeat kurama in a fight and i thought the manga made that clear or should i say hashirama the person who's abilities allow him to control bijuu's stated this. The only way to get the better of the fox is to seal it/suppress it or control it. Before trolls mention sm naruto, that 'fight' was a depiction of naruto gaining control of the fox and not naruto actually defeating the fox. With the help of B/kushina he was able to gain the fox's chakra and nothing else. Unless somebody can tell me that sm naruto > fox on the outside and not within naruto's subconscious.

    Anyway NB confuse talent and intelligence. Tbh the manga isnt good at distinguishing the two though.
    Anyway both Sasuke and Minato shine bright in these two categories however both have their advantage other the other. Whilst id say for now minato is smarter than sasuke, sasuke is more talented than him and has far more potential than minato, some might argue sasuke's heritage as the main contribution to this and there is truth in it, however how you can measure how sasuke might have turned out if he didn't have his uchiha heritage is unknown. It is however cannon that sasuke was an established genius before he was able to use the sharingan
     
         
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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by PuppyDogGeneral View Post
    Minato Created a Rasengan, Sasuke created a Kirin

    Darui has water based black lightning (imitation), Sasuke had the real deal, black chidori.

    Minato and Sasuke successfully fought the two strongest tailed beast, and won.

    Sasuke's Intel = Minato's Battle wise.

    Agree?
    it is only with the coursed seal that sasuke can do black chidori and what are the two strongest beast sasuke fought with
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    people should not even compare minato and sasuke together bcos they are not anywhere close
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by FTG V2 View Post
    Fail

    Oro said "he never seen that kind of shape manipulation before" and that was Chidori Sharp Spear and he even says "who is that" which means he never seen that kind of technique so you saying Oro taught Sasuke Kirin is a total BS.






    Okay, i got question for you....how can Oro teach Sasuke Kirin when his Element is only Wind and not Lighting?

    How can Kakashi teach Naruto how to use rangenshuriken?
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFlash1 View Post
    How can Kakashi teach Naruto how to use rangenshuriken?

    He didn't... kakashi taught him about combining elements and left...went off to fight kakuzu.... Naruto came after developing the technique on his own and used it on Kakuzu.. It was the first time Kakashi ever saw it
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by YellowFlash1 View Post
    How can Kakashi teach Naruto how to use rangenshuriken?
    Kakashi only taught Naruto what his Element was and how combine them..Naruto even went to Asuma to tell him how to change his Wind Nature Chakra..by the time Naruto developed Rasenshuriken by himself Kakashi was fighting Hidan and Kakuzu.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke's Intelligence = Minato

    Objection.
    Title make no sense.
    Sasuke fight Minato.............
    Can anyone highlight which chapter did this title refer to.
    I know.......................

    DEAD vs ALIVE

    Answer: ALIVE is the winner..............................
     
         

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