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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatolium View Post
    As for Kabuto's chat with Obito, he was lying. If he told Obito "So yes he resurrected Madara", believe me, Obito would have killed Kabuto by seeing where he was going with this.

    So he used Yondaime Hokage as a decoy.
    So the ''Fourth'' that was written in the coffin was just to trick Hiruzen? o_o
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Anyway, if Kishimoto is following this path. I'll just revive this thread I bring back your shame :P
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatolium View Post

    Obvious Kabuto lied there -_- Don't you think saying Madara was the 3rd Coffin would raise alertness to Obito?
    Kabuto already revealed to Obito that he had brought back Madara with the 6 coffin of his edo tensies ~_~

    also Madara already had Mokuto when he got Hashirama's cells implanted in him... are you trying to like degrade Madara or something?
     
         
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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by natssuu View Post
    So the ''Fourth'' that was written in the coffin was just to trick Hiruzen? o_o
    It stated "Third" not "Fourth"
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatolium View Post
    If that's true answer this questions.

    Why did he give Madara Mokuton?

    Why did Orochimaru join Akatsuki?

    Why did Kabuto call himself "Closer to Rikudou Sennin" knowing that Madara is on the battlefield?

    Orochimaru is a master of deception, even deceiving fellow manga readers apparently.
    1: Madara already had mokuton when he inserted the first cells into his body, the evidence are the zetsu.
    2: Hiruzen threw him out of Konoha after it was revealed how Oro experimented on people. He had nowhere to go and probable joined Akatsuki
    3: The rinnegan was on his side, which is one of the rikudo sennin's trademarks.



    Quote Originally Posted by Megatolium View Post
    It stated "Third" not "Fourth"
    It has "fourth" written on it in kanji.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Obito Uchiha- View Post
    Kabuto already revealed to Obito that he had brought back Madara with the 6 coffin of his edo tensies ~_~
    Then why was Obito so enraged when he found out Madara is alive? He also lied about the Hand Seals required to stop it, since its completely different what Itachi done.

    Kabuto and Orochimaru are perfect liars, pretty much how Obito fooled us all believing he was Madara.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    kabuto never gave madara mokuton, he only enhanced what was already there. probably for more effect to the allied
    and you're asking why oro joined akatsuki? you ask him if you're so damn gullable.
    the only people getting deceived by the manga is people like you and other people who misread it.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    You have a very interesting perspective. I like a fresh idea. It could well be possible.
    Rep, thanks, like and 5 stars.
    Keep up the good work
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Its hard to really take this under consideration when manga has already explained. Nice theory tho.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Titania Erza View Post
    1: Madara already had mokuton when he inserted the first cells into his body, the evidence are the zetsu.
    2: Hiruzen threw him out of Konoha after it was revealed how Oro experimented on people. He had nowhere to go and probable joined Akatsuki
    3: The rinnegan was on his side, which is one of the rikudo sennin's trademarks.




    It has "fourth" written on it in kanji.
    1. Then please tell me why Madara said this:

    "Damn Kabuto...not only was he able to reproduce the tree world...but the tree flower world!"

    2. Since Akatsuki was a bunch of tools to get the Tsuki no Me plan working, Orochimaru gathered enough intel there to know what Madara and Obito is doing, thus coming to the conclusion of Orochimaru creating all sorts of jutsu to counter this. Like Sennin Mode's immunity to Genjutsu (Most likely used against Infinite Tsukuyomi)
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    As for Kabuto's chat with Obito, he was lying. If he told Obito "So yes he resurrected Madara", believe me, Obito would have killed Kabuto by seeing where he was going with this.
    Hmm, I am trying to understand what you mean with this statement. Explain how Oro resurrecting Madara against the Third would give Obito suspicion that Oro was on to him and Madara, and Kabuto is not now?

    Anyway, I really like this idea. I am not sure if Kabuto's ever made reference to knowing about infinite Tsukyomi, but I do know he has made reference to the Juubi, so he knows Obito plans to revive it. If he knows, it's safe to assumse Oro knows and if Oro knows, then it is a little weird that he has no interest in the war.
     
         
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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tebows Youth Group View Post
    Hmm, I am trying to understand what you mean with this statement. Explain how Oro resurrecting Madara against the Third would give Obito suspicion that Oro was on to him and Madara, and Kabuto is not now?

    Anyway, I really like this idea. I am not sure if Kabuto's ever made reference to knowing about infinite Tsukyomi, but I do know he has made reference to the Juubi, so he knows Obito plans to revive it. If he knows, it's safe to assumse Oro knows and if Oro knows, then it is a little weird that he has no interest in the war.
    Yes thats the part where it gives me a cliffhanger. I think Orochimaru is using Madara as a distraction(Seeing how every Shinobi is there) to do something, probably something we don't know about yet.

    at your sig xD
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatolium View Post
    Then why was Obito so enraged when he found out Madara is alive? He also lied about the Hand Seals required to stop it, since its completely different what Itachi done.

    Kabuto and Orochimaru are perfect liars, pretty much how Obito fooled us all believing he was Madara.
    Kabuto told Obito that he wound't "tell" anyone he was not Madara and that Madara was dead and that he would not put him on the battlefield....... read the manga
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by -Obito Uchiha- View Post
    Kabuto told Obito that he wound't "tell" anyone he was not Madara and that Madara was dead and that he would not put him on the battlefield....... read the manga
    I've got nothing else to say but just this, Orochimaru is still the main villain of Naruto. If he wasnt he be long dead or Plot No Jutsu'd right?
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatolium View Post
    Yes thats the part where it gives me a cliffhanger. I think Orochimaru is using Madara as a distraction(Seeing how every Shinobi is there) to do something, probably something we don't know about yet.

    at your sig xD
    Right, I just don't understand why you think that third coffin was Madara. Your theory could work without that. Obito didn't like Kabuto resurrecting Madara, but he didn't think there was some further plot to it. What Im wondering is why would he think Oro had some other plan just by knowing he was going to use Madara against the Third? If that makes sense. Basically, why kill Kabuto if he knew Oro was trying to summon Madara when Kabuto ended up summoning Madara anyway.

    Also, another thing that gives me problems with this theory is Oro still wants Sasuke body. I think, and this could be way out of left field, but if you're theory holds true then I think you need Sharingan to stop or be immune to infinite tsukyomi, hence why Obito killed them all.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatolium View Post
    I've got nothing else to say but just this, Orochimaru is still the main villain of Naruto. If he wasnt he be long dead or Plot No Jutsu'd right?
    that does not prove that Madara was the 3rd coffin :sy:
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    I see some people didnt read my given link to my theory. Read it please. And you will see Orochimaru gave Madara Mokuton, not Obito or the Hashirama DNA[/U][/B].[/FONT][/QUOTE]

    Orochimaru never gave madara mokuton, madara transplanted hashirama dna into him after his fight with hashirama, orochimaru was not even born then. so you are completely false and you got things mistunderstood
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tebows Youth Group View Post
    Right, I just don't understand why you think that third coffin was Madara. Your theory could work without that. Obito didn't like Kabuto resurrecting Madara, but he didn't think there was some further plot to it. What Im wondering is why would he think Oro had some other plan just by knowing he was going to use Madara against the Third? If that makes sense. Basically, why kill Kabuto if he knew Oro was trying to summon Madara when Kabuto ended up summoning Madara anyway.

    Also, another thing that gives me problems with this theory is Oro still wants Sasuke body. I think, and this could be way out of left field, but if you're theory holds true then I think you need Sharingan to stop or be immune to infinite tsukyomi, hence why Obito killed them all.
    Right now Orochimaru is living inside Pandora's Box, I think Kishimoto is working on a amazing plot reveal here, why do you think he took the effort to bring him back?

    As for the 3rd Coffin, doesn't Orochimaru know about Minato's Death Reaper Sealing? Seeing how every Jonin and higher seems to know it.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    it was minato

    I wasn't even dead sure it was minato until kabuto said so.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Hidden Shinobi View Post
    it was minato

    I wasn't even dead sure it was minato until kabuto said so.
    I know but it doesnt seem valid what Orochimaru is doing. Orochimaru is shown having the highest intel about nearly everyone, how could he be so ignorant to summon Minato knowing his sealing method?
     
         

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