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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by natssuu View Post
    What Kabuto would have accomplished if he had lied? Nothing, he was telling about the secrets of Edo Tensei --> ''If the soul is sealed somewhere, the person cannot be brought back with Edo Tensei, that's why Orochimaru failed to summon Yondaime against Third''.
    If he told the truth, like if Orochimaru tried summoning Uchiha Madara, Obito would have act to that. Since he suspected Orochimaru knew all the things he was up to. Btw its out of character for serpent like people to tell the truth, its like seeing Sasuke making jokes with Suigetsu.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatolium View Post
    If he told the truth, like if Orochimaru tried summoning Uchiha Madara, Obito would have act to that. Since he suspected Orochimaru knew all the things he was up to. Btw its out of character for serpent like people to tell the truth, its like seeing Sasuke making jokes with Suigetsu.
    Obito already knew Kabuto had revived Madara before learning that Orochimaru couldn't revive Minato so him wanting to act on that is pointless.

    And Obito already knows Orochimaru knew more than he would have liked him to know.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

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    Sounds like someone who doesn't know the RDS here.



    "calls on the DNA of Minato"? You don't "call on" the DNA, you take it from the corpse. That's why Kabuto talked about grave robbing when he showed off his army to Obito. Orochimaru found Minato's grave, took a DNA sample (Minato's body wasn't sealed in the Death God so there was a grave) and tried to Edo Tensei him but, poof, didn't work.


    The 3rd coffin was definately Minato. Look at this picture from the anime.



    The symbol on the middle coffin is FOUR in kanji, meaning it's the Fourth Hokage's coffin. Although Kishi isn't directly making the anime, you think he'd let an ENORMOUS mistake (if it was actually Madara) like that pass?
    It CANNOT be Minato, since his soul is with Shinigami, how is it possible to do the ritual then? Orochimaru didn't perform the ritual whilst summoning the Hokage's. Why is it so hard to understand?
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    it's whatever mehn.. not interested in that
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatolium View Post
    It CANNOT be Minato, since his soul is with Shinigami, how is it possible to do the ritual then? Orochimaru didn't perform the ritual whilst summoning the Hokage's. Why is it so hard to understand?
    You mean the ritual that was shown years after the Orochimaru summoning scene? Kishi probably didn't think about that.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by FXW View Post
    You mean the ritual that was shown years after the Orochimaru summoning scene? Kishi probably didn't think about that.
    I'm sure he did, and probably using this story which we are discussing to cover up that area. What villains say aren't always true, like how Obito calls himself Madara and everyone believed him.

    Kishimoto uses lies and reveals the truth to make the plot more cliffhanger-ish and intense.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatolium View Post
    Yes thats the part where it gives me a cliffhanger. I think Orochimaru is using Madara as a distraction(Seeing how every Shinobi is there) to do something, probably something we don't know about yet.

    at your sig xD


    Dude I like your theory.

    But if this is true, that means that Kabuto has been working with Orochimaru all along. BUTTTTT
    As Orochimaru said, Kabuto never tried to resurrect him, Sasuske did. I dont think they (oro and kabuto) were working together after Oro died, b/c Kabuto was celebrating finally becoming "stronger" than Orochimaru, and never revived him. If Sasuke could do this, so could Orochimaru


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    According to this jutsu, the thread assumption is wrong.

    When Edo Tensei is performed, the "soul" from the Dead is brought back to life immediately during the ritual. If this was Minato, when Orochimaru did the ritual for the Kages (Orochimaru obviously did the ritual before attacking Konoha) when he used Minato's blood he would have known right then and there during the ritual that he could NOT get his body.

    Remember the ritual that Kabuto showed "Tobi"? This proves you have to do that process first BEFORE you are able to summon that Edo. And during the ritual is when the edo is summoned for the 1st time, along with the sacrifice that is given.

    If you think that rooftop was the 1st time Orochimaru summoned the Kage, you are wrong. He had to have done this during the ritual to get the Soul to begin with. So no it was never Minato. They obviously had Madara's body, it was Madara dude.
     
         
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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatolium View Post
    It CANNOT be Minato, since his soul is with Shinigami, how is it possible to do the ritual then? Orochimaru didn't perform the ritual whilst summoning the Hokage's. Why is it so hard to understand?
    As I just answered this. Oros edo tensei is different from Kabutos....

    And Oro also needed to insert the "command" seals after summoning, so he hadn't summoned before, he simply prepared the sealing contract with a dead person, who had Minatos DNA on him
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    the fact that they even found madaras body is amazing to me.....
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    after reading the comments i have come to a conclusion
    the creator of this threat is clearly undenial and wants to stick with his theory, he has no facts to back his theory up all his saying is "what if kabuto was lying." he just comes up with the most random and most unlikely opinions to try to back up his theory.
    most of the people who have commented have brought many facts of how kabuto even said that it was the forth on the coffin, they even showed us manga scan.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Manga>Your theory disproved by the manga. Common sense bro come on.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    OP knows he's wrong lol. If the coffin has 4 on the front, it would be the fourth.

    He's repeatedly ignored this point
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Fail thread. It was minato.
    Manga>your baseless assumptions.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    you all are wrong, it was krillin
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    oh FFS..... Madara gained a portion of hahsiramas DNA during their FIGHT............................................. .... orochimaru, wasn't even known at that point.... jesus... please read the manga before coming out with ridiculous statements..
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Fine all of you. If tomorrow's chapter concludes with Madara being in the 3rd Coffin, I've got nothing to say.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    Quote Originally Posted by Madara mhm View Post
    oh FFS..... Madara gained a portion of hahsiramas DNA during their FIGHT............................................. .... orochimaru, wasn't even known at that point.... jesus... please read the manga before coming out with ridiculous statements..
    Very ignorant , read chapter 560-561 please
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    well thought out
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    I liked your theory... but it was wrong.
     
         

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    Re: The 3rd Coffin is Madara.

    are you really familiar of this manga? or your just a noob that thinks you know all lol it was already stated in the manga
     
         

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