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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    I felt the chapter was pretty good. People have high expectations. :ice:

    Honestly, a chapter alone SHOULD NOT be rated without considering previous or forthcoming chapters.
    Its probably better to have a rating system for a collection of chapters instead of just one chapter because it seems people ask too much from one chapter.

    If a chapter has too much action, people will react:
    Too much action, not enough story 1/5
    If a chapter has too much talking, people will react:
    Too much talking, not enough action 1/5
    Or Kishi may introduce an 1) idea before the 2) explanation. He may introduce some sort of interesting yet shocking idea as a setup chapter and people will demand explanation right away on that same chapter:
    How did he know that jutsu? Plothole! 1/5
    Then he'll probably give the explanation as an explanation chapter several chapters after and people will still probably react:
    Too much talking and explaining, not enough interesting ideas being introduced 1/5
    Summary:
    • People demand too much from one chapter
    • People should review a chapter while considering previous and forthcoming chapters

    Enjoy the chapter! Your not even paying for this shit, you spoiled brat! (Just kidding:D... partly).
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    This chapter wasn't to horrible.. But seriously where the F*ck is SASUKE!!??
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    i wanna know how they were communicating with shikaku and ino's dad during the fight. they didnt even hint to it once
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by FloriGlori View Post
    lol, Shikaku told the Taijutsu users to engage Madara. Did they totally forget about Susanoo?

    Well, it wasn't overwhelming, but it was a good chapter nonetheless. The allied forces fighting together clearly has its touch. Their performance was quite impressive, even though Kishimoto had to make Obito and Madara do nothing in order to actually give them a chance of demonstrating their powers. Furthermore, this seems to be the army's elite, the survivors; the useless, imbecile trash that we got to know during previous parts of the war was sorted out by Zetsu and Edo Tensei, in the end. No, here we have several Kekkei Genkai and high level Ninjutsu users. When I compare the amount of people people that were necessary to counter one of Madara's Katon moves to what these Shinobi just did, the size of that gap becomes obvious. Not just that their numbers were lower; the scale they used their techniques on was astounding, being able to house even the Juubi, who's several times as large as an ordinary Bijuu.

    But no matter how impressive that combination was, Obito's and Madara's counterattack will be even more impressive.

    - They have absolutely no idea of Madara's perfect Susanoo.
    - The Juubi is evolving even further.
    - They (and even we) don't know yet what Obito is truly capable of.

    At the end of the day, they still won't stand a chance, that's why right now I'm even more curious on how they'll surive this intense encounter. Right now they're clinging, as Obito correctly states, to a hope that does not exist. I just hope that their hope will really be crushed; right now they seem too optimistic. Instead of a confident Naruto, there should be one in range, trambling of anger. And luckily, the more obvious the gap between Naruto's and Obito's intentions becomes, the more cold and arrogant he becomes again, and the more likely it seems. They're not many people anymore, so the chance of someone dear to Naruto being killed is considerably high. There's also still the news about the Kage's defeat that most Shinobi don't know about, yet; this might be especially interesting when it comes to Sakura learning about Tsunade. Chatte also made a nice theory about the resemblance between Obito/Rin and Naruto/Sakura, so something emotional might be happening here, too.

    Other things I've noticed:
    • Just how did the HQ find out Kamui's five minutes limit? Konan was the only one to force him beyond that limit until now, and as far as I know they did not have any connection to her. Is there a scroll called 'The mechanics of Kamui' or what?.
    • I wondered why everyone in the HQ is so calm, despite knowing what happened to the Kage (Madara switched the location, their Chakra must be quite low). But then I remembered what Inoichi said about them not even having enough time to be shocked about Tobi's identity; I suppose the same may go for the Kage's defeat. Demoralizing the allied forces would be unwise at this point as well.
    • Obito finally becomes Tobi again, in a figurative sense.
    5 min interval:
    maybe konan sent a paper message to the leaf...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Lilvic92 View Post
    Please Sasuke save this manga. That shit was horrible!
    Your sig is awesome and speaks the truth

    but never mind that, i just think this chapter was a waste of time, it's even worse than the uchiha bro vs kabuto! :sy:
    well i really hope that 613 is better and filled with pure action, since 612 was about the plans and how to fight
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Nikes View Post
    Waste of a chapter. LAME
    The only thingi can say good about this chapter is it may be good in an animated version, but in manga format I gave it a two.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatsuuga View Post
    Don't understand what everyone is *****ing about. The chapter was good, and had an underlying message that people completely missed. Tobi was talking about how the villages aren't actually unified and that nothing has really changed. Yet what we saw was a perfect uniting of all villages to pull of the best collaboration we have ever seen. All the elements had a specific purpose in that they all exemplify their respective country, ie konoha used fire for th fire country, sand used wind for the wind country, etc, etc.

    People don't appreciate the things Kishi is actually trying to portray through his panels which as always were beautifully drawn. Also lol at people that said the alliance was fodder - they just owned madara, obito and the Juubi.

    Also just because you want to see sasuke doesn't mean that every chapter until his is shown is crap since it didn't include him.
    Well said bro!! Agreed with you!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Fitz View Post
    Woah what????what's with the hate? I enjoyed this chapter just as much as the last one. I'm thinking you guys don't have any faith in the shinoni alliance
    *node*
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    ok people. There is a very good reason why the 10 tails didn't do anything. All of the orders were given telepathically, so everyone was synchronized and virtually doing all their Jobs at once. Now, why Madara and Obito didn't do anything, I have no idea. Madara is full of himself and thinks that they can't possibly loose...he's already died once. he can die again.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    I think it was a decent chapter. I would have liked it to have been a bit longer, but I have no complaints.

    And for those wondering how Shikaku Nara knew about the 5 minute interval with kamui, remember that he had previously talked to Naruto telepathically (towards the beginning of the war, as Naruto and Bee were heading to the battlefield). I'm guessing that the link was never broken. Either that or the fact that the intel squad can locate and communicate with any member of the Allied Shinobi Force comes into play. I highly doubt it's a plothole though.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    I honestly didn't like this chapter, it wasn't that great b/c i know that in the end, the juubi is just gunna poop on the shiniobi alliance anyway :shrug:

    alsol, ya im interested in "the Juubi nearing its complete form" but tbh, i just wanna see wth is in suigetsu's scroll

    Sasuke's Rinnegan/Elder Brother's Eyes anyone?
    :D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    If this is bad, i can't wait for the anime... instead of 5 minutes of reading... 30 minutes of trolololol jutsu?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    rubbish chapter. 2/5 too much pointless talking and posing. and why were madara and obito just standing there....
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    Oh, cool, oh cool!... except Juubi could do a bijuu bomb and then everyone will be dead. At least try to mold plot and actual facts together in a reasonably acceptable manner, Kishi.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    rubbish chapter. 2/5 too much pointless talking and posing. and why were madara and obito just standing there staring into space and not responding to the attack
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    Disappointed to have waited a week for this. Gave it a 3 and even that felt generous. Like someone said earlier they spent most of the chapter making concrete. Next week's release should be good. Jubi is about to reach perfect stage and I can't imagine that being a let down
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by thewondererer View Post
    I felt the chapter was pretty good. People have high expectations. :ice:

    Honestly, a chapter alone SHOULD NOT be rated without considering previous or forthcoming chapters.
    Its probably better to have a rating system for a collection of chapters instead of just one chapter because it seems people ask too much from one chapter.

    If a chapter has too much action, people will react:

    If a chapter has too much talking, people will react:


    Or Kishi may introduce an 1) idea before the 2) explanation. He may introduce some sort of interesting yet shocking idea as a setup chapter and people will demand explanation right away on that same chapter:

    Then he'll probably give the explanation as an explanation chapter several chapters after and people will still probably react:


    Summary:
    • People demand too much from one chapter
    • People should review a chapter while considering previous and forthcoming chapters

    Enjoy the chapter! Your not even paying for this shit, you spoiled brat! (Just kidding:D... partly).
    This, pretty much!
    Were people expecting the alliance to die in this one chapter, right after they arrived? that would've made that wait for them pretty pointless, more than what people make this chapter out to be. They need a little time to shine too...before all their hopes are destroyed.

    Oh, and the concrete jokes are getting annoying. What else are they supposed to do (or can do)? Name something else they could've done? throw kunai? And of course it's not gonna work, after all this build up to the 10 tails, you think anything the alliance throws at it is gonna work.

    Also, hating this chapter just because Sasuke isn't it, is not a good reason (plus that complaint has been used so many times, he's gone alot, get used to it already, and people have been complaining about "where's Sasuke?" way before this arc, Chunin exams anyone?)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    I don't see how the alliance can possibly defeat Obito+ Edo Madara w/ EMS and Rinnegan and Juubi, unless Obito does a Darth Vader and turn against his master.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by ghostsoldier3 View Post
    Okay that does it people *****in' bout this wayyyyy too much...first someone whines "why doesn't obito or madara do anything they jus standing there?" -- look i dunno if its for this reason or not but they are flekkin' connected to the jubbi or wateva - a flikkin' cord is connected to their a$$ or neck or wateva - I'm pretty sure if shit was connected to you ya a$$ aint movin'
    "why don't they do some jutsus etc, etc..." - could be kishi trollin' or wateva orrrrrr could be they in a state where their focus is in the jubii hence they can't - not saying that this is da case but its a possibility enough for people to not be aggravated about it...we doh know why yet so stop *****in' wait and see if reasons occur...remember the whole kakashi chakra crap - it was explained after - so quit griping and wait til nex time...to the ones saying fodder alliance and the chapter was short - it was 17 flippin' pages - it jus flowed into each part quickly - sorry i meant 16 pages...more than MANY other times...oh and the 5 min. thing with obito I only half agree with you all on this. I mean its not like shikaku is a flippin' analytical and strategic genius and can figure out jutsus once he has data on someon...oh waittttt he can!! as someone clearly said kakashi, bee, gai, naruto was fighting the man for f&**s sake and the fact that they informed inoichi dat it was obito means ANY data they got could have been passed on...I AM NOT saying this is factual but instead of *****in' consider it as a very possible scenario on the other hand it could be that kishi did a wad of balls there so I understand ur point of view. This chapter don't deserve a 1 - sasuke fans will gladly label it that...personally i wanna see oro and sasuke myself but I won't dump on a chapter cuz of it...as for the jubii not attacking they were smart and first attacked using somthing to obscure its vision IMMEDIATELY halting it from attacking - they know well that their attack won't physically do it shit...as madara said it - a perfect combination...anyway my rant has been long but necessary...this chapter was a build up and nothing more in conclusion

    1) Chapter was NOT short it jus felt like it.

    2) Obito info could have possibly been deciphered with enough intel and shikakus genius OR kishi did a load of crock

    3) Come on the alliance combo was nice.

    4) Obito and Madara MAY not be able to attack the way they want to at the moment - so don't ***** and whine about it jus yet - cuz yes otherwise like someone said dump a shitload of asteroids and be done with it. The circumstance permits that its not altogether ridiculous that they cannot do this for wateva reason.

    5) The chapter is a build up and display of each villages abilities in a sense - if you see it as more than that you gonna be upset.

    6) Everybody seems to be madara's ***** lollol and yes 'Lord' sasuke may appear soon and unexpectedly (which is what he's trying to do since everyone expecting him now or soon)
    Shut up kid.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

    I like how people are justifying a sub oar chapter.
     
         

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