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    The Power Of Sasuke



    I will probably make a thread like this for Naruto Too...

    I figured since the manga is closing to an end, it would be smart to recap and re-look the strengths and weaknesses to characters, and maybe see if Kishi screwed up at some point or not. I am also really bored and sick.. -__- So I will start with Sasuke since he is my favorite character!

    Taijutsu & Reaction Time
    Now Sasuke, since he was a Genin for the leaf have showed great skills in Taijutsu, only as a fresh genin he showed Taijutsu skills to that could match Kakashi's when he was a chunin. That alone is pretty remarkable, now Sasuke also posses the Sharingan which lets him copy and predict his opponent's moves by reading them. In Taijutsu, reaction time and speed plays a heavy value, and Sasuke has show incredible speed early in the series, during the Chunin Exams, getting close to matching Lee's speed. His reaction at the time wasn't all that good, but it's gotten better over the years.

    Now in Shippuden Sasuke is using a sword as his primary close combat weapon, but he is still able to use normal Taijutsu. His blade skills are very good, commented by Mifune the leader of the Samurai and the best swordsman of all the Samurai. That comment from Mifune should be enough, but the fact that he is also able to infuse his Chidori into his blade makes his close combat even more deadly. Sasuke even commented that his blade isn't a blade that is easily blocked. Which is true since it cuts the edge right off Yamato's Kunai. Sasuke also combine his Sharingan with his sword making him not only able to follow his opponent's movements and block almost perfectly, but it also makes him able to target lethal places on the body much easier.

    Now Sasuke's speed have been argued about, quite too much in my opinion on some sites. Well I can see why, but Sasuke has always showed great speed. Even Killer Bee is surprise when Sasuke dodge's Killer Bee's 8-Tails cloak attack. Killer Bee even says that no one besides the Raikage himself has ever been able to dodge his attack until Sasuke did it. Which probably means that Sasuke's and Raikage's ( No lighting Armor) speed/reaction are pretty much the same. Seeing as the Raikage is the 2nd fastest Shinobi that have ever lived I would say that is pretty remarkable.

    Manga Pages
    Sasuke Dodges Killer Bee
    Guy Comments on Sasuke's Speed Compared to Lee's
    Sasuke Says His Sword Can't be Blocked
    Sasuke Matches Kakashi's Chunin Level as a Genin

    Ninjutsu & Kekkai Genkai
    Sasuke is a member of the Uchiha clan which made him a born Fire Style user, so he learned that pretty much from birth and at a young age he was able to master the Fireball Jutsu to prove himself to his father. He later shows that he able to use it in combat against Kakashi, he also shows that he able to do pretty strong jutsus like the "Phoenix Flower Jutsu" and "Dragon Fire Jutsu" while he is only a Genin, which is commented already by Kakashi when he sees Sasuke using the Fireball jutsu during the test.

    This probably means that Sasuke has great chakra reserves and a decently strong chakra. Now Sasuke doesn't really focus to much on Fire Release later after the Chunin Exams, but that is mainly because he learns Chidori from Kakashi and he also finds out that Sasuke's born element isn't fire, but lightning. The moment Sasuke masters the Chidori before the Chunin exam he has 2 elements, which most Shinobi don't get until they are Jonin level. Sasuke is able to use the Chidori without any major risks because he has the Sharingan, which is commented by Kakashi and stated by Minato.

    In Shippuden Sasuke shows that he have developed the Chidori further than Kakashi ever did, by changing its form into things like spears and onto his blade. This is something that takes a lot of practice to accomplish, since Naruto had to "cheat" with his shadow clones to do so. Now Sasuke later in the fight with Itachi, shows his most powerful jutsu which is a new form of the Kirin that uses pure lighting to no chakra is wasted. Its called the Kirin and its stated that it is the fastest jutsu that is, since it moves with the speed of lighting. The only reason that Itachi was able to survive it was the Sussanoo stated by himself.

    Now after the Itachi battle, Sasuke awakens the Mangekyou Sharingan, which gives him 3 new powerful abilities. Which are the Amaterasu,Sharingan Genjutsu and Susanoo, which all have different use. Sasuke shows little skill in the Genjutsu power and he shows that he has probably the weakest Susanoo of the 3 users. But the level of which he can use the Amaterasu is remarkable! He has by far the best control over it, showing that he is able to cloak it around him like a armor and that he able to form the flames to other shapes. He has also shown that he is able to put the flames out with little problem compared to Itachi.
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    So naruto cheated using his clones, sasuke didn't cheat using his curse mark from oro or his eye powers from itachi

    Never saw a sasuke thread without some BIG flaw in it
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    make a one of Nagato to..
    btw: good one this^
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    this is a long thread!
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Braveknight View Post
    So naruto cheated using his clones, sasuke didn't cheat using his curse mark from oro or his eye powers from itachi

    Never saw a sasuke thread without some BIG flaw in it
    Naruto did "cheat" as he is the only one that can do it because of his mixed Kyuubi Chakra and Uzumaki Chakra.

    How would Sasuke's curse mark help him in changing the shape of the Chidori? -.-

    He learned to shape the Chidori long before getting the MS, which he got by himself, since Sasuke is the main reason Itachi died so early.

    Overall your feedback made no sense to the point you were complaining about.
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by l Sasuke Uchiha l View Post
    Naruto did "cheat" as he is the only one that can do it because of his mixed Kyuubi Chakra and Uzumaki Chakra.

    How would Sasuke's curse mark help him in changing the shape of the Chidori? -.-

    He learned to shape the Chidori long before getting the MS, which he got by himself, since Sasuke is the main reason Itachi died so early.

    Overall your feedback made no sense to the point you were complaining about.

    You didnt see sasuke training to shape his lighting Into sword in manga unless in one filler which showed he used the curse mark.

    Also Kirin takes chakara cause that was the reason he could'nt do any thing after he used it.

    Also itachi was already dieing heck sasuke Didnt give him on single killing blow. The dude he was coffing blood and was taking medince to increase his short life span
     
         
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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Braveknight View Post
    You didnt see sasuke training to shape his lighting Into sword in manga unless in one filler which showed he used the curse mark.

    Also Kirin takes chakara cause that was the reason he could'nt do any thing after he used it.
    All the Curse Mark does is enhance the users abilities and chakra. He showed that he is able to use it perfectly without it. Please show me where he uses it with the curse mark in the Manga.. Show me some proof.

    He stated that Kirin does not use any chakra what so ever ( or at least very little ) as it is using the the energy from the lighting. The reason he was able to do so little after using it was because he had used Firestyle alot to prepare for the Kirin. Get your facts straight.

    By the way the Kirin reaches the ground in 1/1000th of a second, stated by Zetsu.
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Naruto> Sasuke FTW...
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Senju clan24 View Post
    Naruto> Sasuke FTW...
    I fail to see the point of this post in this thread.

    You are entitled to your opinion, but there is no reason to post it here without discussing the topic. Unless you are just trying to get your post count up, if so then you don't belong on a forum. ( My opinion :P )
     
         

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    Wow dude awesome better than the boring DRPROOF threads
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Braveknight View Post
    You didnt see sasuke training to shape his lighting Into sword in manga unless in one filler which showed he used the curse mark.

    Also Kirin takes chakara cause that was the reason he could'nt do any thing after he used it.

    Also itachi was already dieing heck sasuke Didnt give him on single killing blow. The dude he was coffing blood and was taking medince to increase his short life span
    i agree, sasuke had the curse mark and itachi's eyes. naruto had the kyuubi's chakra and clones..but thats part of his own power he learned it through a scroll.
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Kirin can't be the fastest jutsu. Chidori is also nicknamed lightning blade because kakashi cut a lightning bolt with it. So if he can slice that in half, Kirin cant be that much faster. As for the speed, sasuke kind of cheated by using his sharingan to copy lee's movements in the chuunin arc. Not trying to dis sasuke, I admit he is pretty bad ass. the title of this thread is just... a little pretentious. Just a little.
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by l Sasuke Uchiha l View Post
    All the Curse Mark does is enhance the users abilities and chakra. He showed that he is able to use it perfectly without it. Please show me where he uses it with the curse mark in the Manga.. Show me some proof.

    He stated that Kirin does not use any chakra what so ever ( or at least very little ) as it is using the the energy from the lighting. The reason he was able to do so little after using it was because he had used Firestyle alot to prepare for the Kirin. Get your facts straight.

    By the way the Kirin reaches the ground in 1/1000th of a second, stated by Zetsu.
    Hmm then show me that he didn't use it during his training
    No point to debate on a jutsu that didn't work of you ask me
    So your telling me it's so fast that blind nearly dead guy was able to stop it before hitting him? That must be too fast
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by nickalfred31 View Post
    i agree, sasuke had the curse mark and itachi's eyes. naruto had the kyuubi's chakra and clones..but thats part of his own power he learned it through a scroll.
    Sasuke didn't get Itachi eyes until later, after he had already learned to shape the Chidori. Which was his point.
    Sasuke got Itachi's eyes on his own. Sasuke awaken the MS on his own. Even though Itachi wanted to die by his hand, Itachi never probably wanted Sasuke to take his eyes.

    Sasuke was the main reason that Itachi died so early.

    Sasuke mastered 2 elements long before most people do, he mastered 2 elements at a Genin level, most Shinobi doesn't do that until Jonin level. Naruto still hasn't done it on his own. He also needed to be told how to change the shape and exactly how to do it. Sasuke most likely didn't need that much info on it, seeing as Sasuke is 100% smarter than Naruto. The only reason Naruto is able to use Shadow Clone Jutsu and Rasengan is because Kurama and Uzumaki Blood.

    Naruto got Kurama from Minato

    Sasuke got the EMS from Itachi

    They both got the powers from others, don't deny that. If Naruto couldn't use Shadow Clones he would never have been able to learn anything. Naruto's entire skill set comes from the Kage Bushin, which he is only able to sustain for so long since he has Kurama and Uzumaki DNA.

    Same as Sasuke has EMS and Uchiha DNA to sustain the Sharingan use.
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Braveknight View Post
    Hmm then show me that he didn't use it during his training
    No point to debate on a jutsu that didn't work of you ask me
    So your telling me it's so fast that blind nearly dead guy was able to stop it before hitting him? That must be too fast
    Itachi only survived the Kirin because he had Susanoo, which activates in a instant. Itachi even said so himself.

    Also show me some proof, the comment you gave me about me showing you some proof is just childish and just makes you look worse. The 2nd line of your post didn't even make sense to me, what justu didn't work?
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSyren View Post
    Kirin can't be the fastest jutsu. Chidori is also nicknamed lightning blade because kakashi cut a lightning bolt with it. So if he can slice that in half, Kirin cant be that much faster. As for the speed, sasuke kind of cheated by using his sharingan to copy lee's movements in the chuunin arc. Not trying to dis sasuke, I admit he is pretty bad ass. the title of this thread is just... a little pretentious. Just a little.
    Sure he used his sharingan to do that, but so did Naurto with his Shadow Clones only he used the Uzumaki Blood. Which boosts his chakra and stamina.

    Kirin is stated to be one of the, if not the fastest jutsu in the series. It moves at the speed of lightning which is faster than the Raikage V2. Pretty close to the speed of Minato. Its also been said that the Kirin can completely destroy a mountain.
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by l Sasuke Uchiha l View Post
    Sasuke didn't get Itachi eyes until later, after he had already learned to shape the Chidori. Which was his point.
    Sasuke got Itachi's eyes on his own. Sasuke awaken the MS on his own. Even though Itachi wanted to die by his hand, Itachi never probably wanted Sasuke to take his eyes.

    Sasuke was the main reason that Itachi died so early.

    Sasuke mastered 2 elements long before most people do, he mastered 2 elements at a Genin level, most Shinobi doesn't do that until Jonin level. Naruto still hasn't done it on his own. He also needed to be told how to change the shape and exactly how to do it. Sasuke most likely didn't need that much info on it, seeing as Sasuke is 100% smarter than Naruto. The only reason Naruto is able to use Shadow Clone Jutsu and Rasengan is because Kurama and Uzumaki Blood.

    Naruto got Kurama from Minato

    Sasuke got the EMS from Itachi

    They both got the powers from others, don't deny that. If Naruto couldn't use Shadow Clones he would never have been able to learn anything. Naruto's entire skill set comes from the Kage Bushin, which he is only able to sustain for so long since he has Kurama and Uzumaki DNA.

    Same as Sasuke has EMS and Uchiha DNA to sustain the Sharingan use.
    First part of your reply I don't agree with it , itachi told sasuke to come and fight him cuz he knew that he would die. Sasuke didn't give itachi any killing blow just few burns only if sasuke didn't come that day itachi would have been dead.

    Second and third part I agree except on the fact that he was able to master them by using his eyes not a completely self work.
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by l Sasuke Uchiha l View Post
    Itachi only survived the Kirin because he had Susanoo, which activates in a instant. Itachi even said so himself.

    Also show me some proof, the comment you gave me about me showing you some proof is just childish and just makes you look worse. The 2nd line of your post didn't even make sense to me, what justu didn't work?
    Kirin was supposed to kill itachi, so it kind of failed there. Other than that, I say it worked.
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSyren View Post
    Kirin was supposed to kill itachi, so it kind of failed there. Other than that, I say it worked.
    I don't think he meant Kirin... -.-

    Anyways, the only 4 people that would be able to dodge the Kirin would be
    Itachi
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    Raikage V2 ( Possible )


    Dunno about Raikage, since Kirin is suppose to be just as fast if not faster than him.
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by l Sasuke Uchiha l View Post
    Itachi only survived the Kirin because he had Susanoo, which activates in a instant. Itachi even said so himself.

    Also show me some proof, the comment you gave me about me showing you some proof is just childish and just makes you look worse. The 2nd line of your post didn't even make sense to me, what justu didn't work?



    I stated at first that the only time they showed sasuke training on his chakara blade was in a filler epsiode and he was using his curse mark, therefore you can say every time he trained it was with the curse mark unless you can prove me wrong , that what I said you misunderstood you can read it from bigging my second comment , yes Iam wrong, my third one please give a prove that it works automatically
     
         
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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Braveknight View Post
    First part of your reply I don't agree with it , itachi told sasuke to come and fight him cuz he knew that he would die. Sasuke didn't give itachi any killing blow just few burns only if sasuke didn't come that day itachi would have been dead.

    Second and third part I agree except on the fact that he was able to master them by using his eyes not a completely self work.
    Sasuke was looking for Itachi, we don't know it the sickness would have killed him at the same day, as he had lived for so long on share willpower. But the damages and physical drains that Itachi had to deal with under the fight made him even weaker and that is the reason the sickness killed him. His body was so weak after the use of all the jutsus and MS abilities he used.

    If you mean that he used Sharingan to master the Chidori then that is because the Chidori can't simply be used without the Sharingan. Well it can be used, but not without major risks, commented by Minato.

    Sasuke mastered the Firestyle jutsus at a Genin level, even Kakashi was surprised. Sasuke mastered high level Ninjutsu at the rank of Genin! He mastered Fire Style without Sharingan!

    Sasuke also awaken the Sharingan long before becoming a Genin, which is quite special too.
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by l Sasuke Uchiha l View Post
    I don't think he meant Kirin... -.-

    Anyways, the only 4 people that would be able to dodge the Kirin would be
    Itachi
    Madara
    Minato
    Raikage V2 ( Possible )


    Dunno about Raikage, since Kirin is suppose to be just as fast if not faster than him.
    ... Forgive me, I might have read wrong. It's like 7 am here
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    There is one thing i am not indeed with it. Its the fastness of Sasuke... Blocking Bee's 8 Tailed Cloack attack (I am not sure it was 8 or six whatever...) doesnt make him as fast as Raikage... Bee just stated that he is the second one in that move to avaded it. That doesnt mean in a more speedy move, Raikage can avade and Sasuke, too... By the way Sasuke was thrown away by Jugo, with a super blast...
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Braveknight View Post
    I stated at first that the only time they showed sasuke training on his chakara blade was in a filler epsiode and he was using his curse mark, therefore you can say every time he trained it was with the curse mark unless you can prove me wrong , that what I said you misunderstood you can read it from bigging my second comment , yes Iam wrong, my third one please give a prove that it works automatically
    Regardless, most people wouldn't have used Anime and a filler as proof as they are mostly just randoms. Show me a Manga that shows it. As of right now non of us is wrong or right, but it is common sense that he didn't need it.

    What would the curse mark help him with the training, ofcourse he would have had more chakra and the jutsu would have been stronger so he could have had trained for a bit longer ( Possibly ). Besides that it didn't help him at all.

    Naruto used Kage Bushin to multiply his training time, if Naruto made 100 Kage Bushin and trained all of them for 1 hour he would have trained 100 hours, in the time of 1 hour. Sasuke would still have needed to train the same amount of hours no matter if he use the Cursed Seal or not. He just didn't need to train as much as Naruto, or at least I doubt so.
     
         

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    Re: The Power Of Sasuke

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuchidori View Post
    There is one thing i am not indeed with it. Its the fastness of Sasuke... Blocking Bee's 8 Tailed Cloack attack (I am not sure it was 8 or six whatever...) doesnt make him as fast as Raikage... Bee just stated that he is the second one in that move to avaded it. That doesnt mean in a more speedy move, Raikage can avade and Sasuke, too... By the way Sasuke was thrown away by Jugo, with a super blast...
    I didn't say he was just as fast as the Raikage, but that he is close to as fast as the Raikage if not as fast as him when the Raikage doesn't use the Lighting Armor.
     
         

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