The Power Of Sasuke

[Braveknight]

Sasuke was looking for Itachi, we don't know it the sickness would have killed him at the same day, as he had lived for so long on share willpower. But the damages and physical drains that Itachi had to deal with under the fight made him even weaker and that is the reason the sickness killed him. His body was so weak after the use of all the jutsus and MS abilities he used.

If you mean that he used Sharingan to master the Chidori then that is because the Chidori can't simply be used without the Sharingan. Well it can be used, but not without major risks, commented by Minato.

Sasuke mastered the Firestyle jutsus at a Genin level, even Kakashi was surprised. Sasuke mastered high level Ninjutsu at the rank of Genin! He mastered Fire Style without Sharingan!

Sasuke also awaken the Sharingan long before becoming a Genin, which is quite special too.

At your first part if my memory helps , itachi told sasuke to come to the uchiha place to fight sasuke didn't find him sitting on chair by luck, itachi was using medince to longer his life span it's around manga 370 if I remember tobi said that. Therefore [ my opionion] he calculated the max time he can live before he dies , cause of he can live more he could have gave sasuke some time like 1-2 years to get more wiser and not end up in making new stupid to-do-list.

On your second point I agree

On 3rd and four sasuke If I remember when he was a genin he used only 2 fire jutsus the one against oro and te only against kakashi

[Naruto420]

I don't think he meant Kirin... -.-

Anyways, the only 4 people that would be able to dodge the Kirin would be
Itachi
Madara
Minato
Raikage V2 ( Possible )

Dunno about Raikage, since Kirin is suppose to be just as fast if not faster than him.

You forgot naruto... Naruto is faster than raikage in km, in BM he is much faster....

[l Sasuke Uchiha l]

At your first part if my memory helps , itachi told sasuke to come to the uchiha place to fight sasuke didn't find him sitting on chair by luck, itachi was using medince to longer his life span it's around manga 370 if I remember tobi said that. Therefore [ my opionion] he calculated the max time he can live before he dies , cause of he can live more he could have gave sasuke some time like 1-2 years to get more wiser and not end up in making new stupid to-do-list.

On your second point I agree

On 3rd and four sasuke If I remember when he was a genin he used only 2 fire jutsus the one against oro and te only against kakashi

We dunno if Itachi would have lived longer. I think he told Sasuke where to find him since Sasuke wouldn't do anything else before Itachi was dead. It was also time to "save" Sasuke and if he waited longer to fight Sasuke then Sasuke might have become more evil and that way he could never return to the village.

Itachi wanted Sasuke to be a hero and return to the Village, which is why he wanted him to fight him at that time after Oro was dead. Sasuke would have killed, destroyed or just done everything to find Itachi before training more, so Itachi just accepted that and did the fight.

Now Sasuke did 4 High Level Fire Release Jutsu's as a Genin, 1 against Kakashi, 1 Against Oro and 1 Against Naruto.

Sasuke Using Katon: Hōsenka no Jutsu against Naruto
I know he is using Cursed Seal here, but the fact that he could use it right away means he have practice it and knew how to use it, so he would have learned it without the seal.

Before I forget it again, if it hadn't been for Sasuke, Naruto would have been dead against Haku... xD

[l Sasuke Uchiha l]

You forgot naruto... Naruto is faster than raikage in km, in BM he is much faster....

He us just as fast as the Raikage in BM mode, seen when Naruto tries to outrun the Raikage to get away from him when Naruto is heading for the battlefield. The Raikage manages to stop Naruto, which means they are the same speed. The only one that is faster than the Raikage is Minato and Minato uses a jutsu called "Flying Thunder God" which lets him teleport, Naruto cannot do that.

[FTG V2]

I don't think he meant Kirin... -.-

Anyways, the only 4 people that would be able to dodge the Kirin would be
Itachi
Madara
Minato
Raikage V2 ( Possible )

Dunno about Raikage, since Kirin is suppose to be just as fast if not faster than him.

Itachi,Raikage, and Madara can't dodge unless you're saying they can move 1/1000th of a second...Minato is the only one who can dodge Kirin since he can teleport instantly with FTG.

Itachi only chance is to use Susanoo to protect himself like before.

Madara also needs to use Susanoo.

The Railkage is dead...he might be fast, but he can't move faster than 1/1000th of a second.

Nice thread+rep..don't listen to the haters man

[Ryuchidori]

I didn't say he was just as fast as the Raikage, but that he is close to as fast as the Raikage if not as fast as him when the Raikage doesn't use the Lighting Armor.

Ok, ok dont get annoyed

[l Sasuke Uchiha l]

Itachi,Raikage, and Madara can't dodge unless you're saying they can move 1/1000th of a second...Minato is the only one who can dodge Kirin since he can teleport instantly with FTG.

Itachi only chance is to use Susanoo to protect himself like before.

Madara also needs to use Susanoo.

The Railkage is dead...he might be fast, but he can't move faster than 1/1000th of a second.

Nice thread+rep..don't listen to the haters man

The reason I said that Madara and Itachi could dodge the attack was because they have susanoo, the reason I said the Raikage (Possibly) was because I am not 100% certain if he would have been able to dodge the attack but with major damage done to him or not.

[Braveknight]

Nice reasoning replies ^_^

[l Sasuke Uchiha l]

Nice reasoning replies ^_^

Thanks! ( That is if you meant me, if not then I'm a idiot.. -.- )

You have some good points though, but I just tend to like to discuss things like this... :3

[Braveknight]

Thanks! ( That is if you meant me, if not then I'm a idiot.. -.- )

You have some good points though, but I just tend to like to discuss things like this... :3

Meant you're replies.

[l Sasuke Uchiha l]

Meant you're replies.

Then the thanks wasn't misplaced ... :3

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

Madara and itachi cannot dodge kiri they only block/avade it dodging is sooo diff from blocking/avading

[Namikaze Senju]

interesting

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

We dunno if Itachi would have lived longer. I think he told Sasuke where to find him since Sasuke wouldn't do anything else before Itachi was dead. It was also time to "save" Sasuke and if he waited longer to fight Sasuke then Sasuke might have become more evil and that way he could never return to the village.

Itachi wanted Sasuke to be a hero and return to the Village, which is why he wanted him to fight him at that time after Oro was dead. Sasuke would have killed, destroyed or just done everything to find Itachi before training more, so Itachi just accepted that and did the fight.

Now Sasuke did 4 High Level Fire Release Jutsu's as a Genin, 1 against Kakashi, 1 Against Oro and 1 Against Naruto.

Sasuke Using Katon: Hōsenka no Jutsu against Naruto
I know he is using Cursed Seal here, but the fact that he could use it right away means he have practice it and knew how to use it, so he would have learned it without the seal.

Before I forget it again, if it hadn't been for Sasuke, Naruto would have been dead against Haku... xD

Sasuke would have died too had it been naruto didn't help him in that fight.

[Uchiha Samater]

it was a nice read although i dnt see why i detect tones where you seem to belittle naruto lol he is the main character albeit Kishi's fav is sasuke, (and im quite partial to the uchiha myself) id like to point out places , where i erm disagree is a strong word so ill say want more reasoning.

Naruto "cheating" with his clones: Im not too sure in what conext you used the word CHEAT , but it felt it was some sort of insult lol if you will to naruto and how he is no where near sasuke in terms of talent.

Well....isnt the whole point? Isnt that why we like the knucklehead, he's not a genius like sasuke or itachi, a hardworker who anyone can relate too.

However, I always figured naruto was probably the only person to make this many clones period. Take a look at Killa Bee he has the Eight tails, further more Bee is quite formidable as a shinobi and you have never seen Bee performing Bunshin. Naruto is uzamaki and i think his bloodline relating to the senju and one of the sage's sons has a part to do with his ability to last this long with the kyuubi, and we saw a little of that with his mother.

Naruto's Speed against Raikage: Youve also said, (in a further post), that Naruto is not faster than Raikage, did he not evade the Raikage and Raikage acknowledge that he was second after Minato to avoid him, id like clarification your point about Naruto's speed as he is clearly the fastest now, (albeit after some insane powering up)


But back to my point, yup i agree Sasuke is a heck of a character, the perfect antagonist to Naruto's protagonist.

However we cant just say he progressed on his own, (or dance around it) , like i felt you did, lets appreciate it what he has done in its all truth.

Good post BTW + rep

[NarutoSageUzumaki]

I don't think he meant Kirin... -.-

Anyways, the only 4 people that would be able to dodge the Kirin would be
Itachi
Madara
Minato
Raikage V2 ( Possible )

Dunno about Raikage, since Kirin is suppose to be just as fast if not faster than him.

+Naruto

[l Sasuke Uchiha l]

Sasuke would have died too had it been naruto didn't help him in that fight.

Yes, but Sasuke was only injured so badly after saving Naruto... :P

[l Sasuke Uchiha l]

+Naruto

The speed in my personal opinion of Naruto is that he is no faster than the Raikage, maybe a tiny-bit, but that doesn't make him able to dodge/block Kirin.

[dirklyn]

Couldn't read everything

[Champ]

Good thread, but mangareader doesn't work for me

[EpicBoss HD]

The Power of Sasuke is flinging Amateratsu discs

[Cowthulhu45]

So naruto cheated using his clones, sasuke didn't cheat using his curse mark from oro or his eye powers from itachi

Never saw a sasuke thread without some BIG flaw in it

Anti Sasuke Fanboy detected.
Anyway, the cheating was that he used the clones to use rasengan without good chakra controll. Curse mark and MS have nothing to do with it.
Also, he's been shown resisting sexy jutsu, a feat only matched by ebizu, but i bet sasuke could beat harem jutsu aswell.