Naruto Tier List V.5 (Beta)

[PretaPath]

In a vs. Thread its viable, He used Kamui Against Deidara without any sort of high stakes. Thats like me saying madara will just sit there and not use PS just because its a "last resort"

If Kakashi see's that Kamui will help, He'll use it



Someone is making a thread, I'll Give a short response there. On Monday i will continue the debate with you (possibly on another thread)

I want to establish ground rules though. The Hashi im considering is one that can use all Mokuton thus far and has Byakuyou like Healing.

Yes he also used it a second time to save himself and his friends from the explosion, that was a last resort usage.
Anyway , he'd need to use Kamui 6 times to get rid of Pain, and that is if he actually land it. Good luck.

[PretaPath]

Your joking right? Minato is the god of this manga

Not really..

[★T Bogard]

Yes he also used it a second time to save himself and his friends from the explosion, that was a last resort usage.
Anyway , he'd need to use Kamui 6 times to get rid of Pain, and that is if he actually land it. Good luck.

Not really. He simply needs to use Hachibi size kamui and all Pain are dead

[DemonicAvenger]

Yes he also used it a second time to save himself and his friends from the explosion, that was a last resort usage.
Anyway , he'd need to use Kamui 6 times to get rid of Pain, and that is if he actually land it. Good luck.

At Mid-Range He Countered Sasuke's Arrow. If Kakashi is near a path, They Can't Escape.

And Wtf? im never even said Kakashi > Pain. Pain Just Doesn't destroy him like you make it out to be

[shyarkugan]

Regardless, the Obito (Rinnegan) in this list is considered Biju-less

But why? When he takes Nagato's rinnegan he has 7 bijus collected in Gedo Mazo and Gedo Mazo is a rinnegan power and so are the chains. Ergo they are part of his rinnegan powers, so it seems redundant to me to remove his biju, but whatevs it's your list.

[DemonicAvenger]

But why? When he takes Nagato's rinnegan he has 7 bijus collected in Gedo Mazo and Gedo Mazo is a rinnegan power and so are the chains. Ergo they are part of his rinnegan powers, so it seems redundant to me to remove his biju, but whatevs it's your list.

It Was done on a whim. Nothing more

[★T Bogard]

Not really..

The only character in this manga who always end his fights unscathed whether he fights a fodder or top tier = God

[PretaPath]

Not really. He simply needs to use Hachibi size kamui and all Pain are dead

That's not possible, sorry

[PretaPath]

At Mid-Range He Countered Sasuke's Arrow. If Kakashi is near a path, They Can't Escape.

And Wtf? im never even said Kakashi > Pain. Pain Just Doesn't destroy him like you make it out to be

Then why did he?
Kakashi lost against 2 Paths, now add 4 more. He gets fodderized, sorry.

[★T Bogard]

Then why did he?
Kakashi lost against 2 Paths, now add 4 more. He gets fodderized, sorry.

1- Because he had no knowledge on Pain back then. Now he trained to counter Pain abilities
2- Because current Kakashi is vastly stronger than the Kakashi you are talking about

[DemonicAvenger]

Then why did he?
Kakashi lost against 2 Paths, now add 4 more. He gets fodderized, sorry.

Do I have to spoon feed you everything?

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Kakashi has made substantial progress since then. The fight would be very diffrent if it was done now with his power ups and PIS/CIS off (he would use Kamui as an attack now like he does against obito)

[PretaPath]

1- Because he had no knowledge on Pain back then. Now he trained to counter Pain abilities
2- Because current Kakashi is vastly stronger than the Kakashi you are talking about

Why would he train to counter Pain now that he's dead? LOL.
Yeah he's not that much stronger, I mean it's not like he got new abilities or anything, it won't make any difference, his chakra level is too low, Deva Path, Animal Path and Asura Path would be more than enough to defeat Kakashi

[★T Bogard]

Why would he train to counter Pain now that he's dead? LOL.
Yeah he's not that much stronger, I mean it's not like he got new abilities or anything, it won't make any difference, his chakra level is too low, Deva Path, Animal Path and Asura Path would be more than enough to defeat Kakashi

1- He did train to counter Pain abilities, said by Gai

2- His chakra pool greatly improved and we can see it in this war when he was able to fight 2days swordsmen, Jinchurikis, Gedo Mazo, Obito, Madara, Juubi along with Gai, Naruto and Bee, spamming Raikiris(something like 10), Raiden(at least 2), Kage Bunshins, doton, kamuis(something like 8 times or more), when against Pain he could barely use one clone, few raikiris and 2kamuis. There is also a huge gap in terms of his ability to use kamui since now he can even warp huge Bijuus like Hachibi, teleport in and out his dimension, warp objects/people from Kamui dimension to our real world. There is a huge gap in power between the 2kakashis

[UchihaBrothers]

you cant put people in god tier who are not gods

[minator93]

Sakumo Demi-god and Tobirama high Kage?? What is this?

Put Minato, Tobirama and Prime Hiruzen in God, because they beat all the tiers below God

[PretaPath]

Sakumo Demi-god and Tobirama high Kage?? What is this?

Put Minato, Tobirama and Prime Hiruzen in God, because they beat all the tiers below God

Except Pain..

[DemonicAvenger]

you cant put people in god tier who are not gods

It's Simply a Tier Lable. Don't Let your Jimmies get rustled as im not the only one that puts those characters in a tier labled "God"

Sakumo Demi-god and Tobirama high Kage?? What is this?

Put Minato, Tobirama and Prime Hiruzen in God, because they beat all the tiers below God

Sakumo supposedly made the Sanin look like fodder.

Tobirama with 2nd Raikage got ShitStomped by Ginkaku and Kinkaku

Minato Does Not Belong in God Tier. He's Roughly Equal With Healthy Itachi or EMS Sasuke.

Prime Hiruzen is Taboo

[History]

killerbee in god tier no pain sasuke itachi onoki muu> bee also kakashi shouldnt be in that tier as them

[DemonicAvenger]

killerbee in god tier no pain sasuke itachi onoki muu> bee also kakashi shouldnt be in that tier as them

Oh Yea, If all those people you named fought KB at the same time then yes, Your equation is correct.

But 1v1, Killer Bee is superior to all of them

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

How is Hebi Sasuke and Sasuke at the start of Part 2 higher than Sasuke Taka? Apart from that everything is correct.

[DemonicAvenger]

Couple people off forum are really sturring up some debate about Hiruzen's place:

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Please Debate on where Hiruzen should be placed in this list. Please Remeber that this Hiruzen when he fought Orochimaru

[Shinozgr8]

wtf???????? SHINO IS AT LEAST JOUNIN TIER!...EFFIN CHUNIN TIER???? SERIOUSLY???? he's top 3 of konoha 11 (naruto included)....i can't believe this ish...the databooks, his feats, his fights, all back this up as well...

[PretaPath]

wtf???????? SHINO IS AT LEAST JOUNIN TIER!...EFFIN CHUNIN TIER???? SERIOUSLY???? he's top 3 of konoha 11 (naruto included)....i can't believe this ish...the databooks, his feats, his fights, all back this up as well...

You're a shino fanboy? I've never seen any of these.
Shino got no feat in shippuden, he's weak

[Shinozgr8]

his feats in part one moar than make up for it. i'm a logical fanboy. and even made a detailed thread about shino and where he stands compared to other shinobi...that being said he's moar than capable of being at least jonin tier

[Ezio..]

We don't know much about Sasuke yet so i don't think you should include him with ems