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    Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    i was looking at itachi vs sasuke fight and i noticed this

    zetsu is watching the entire fight, and he said this
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/388/17

    ^^^^why dont zetsu recognize amaterasu????????

    REMEMBER ZETSU KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT MADARA
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/606/14
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/606/15


    this PROVES madara doesnt have amaterasu because zetsu would have known about it already unless kishi contradicts his manga

    and since madara can use susano without amaterasu, this proves susano doesnt require amaterasu

    this proves the databook wrong too......unless the databook is talking about just ITACHI's susano

    agree?

    EDIT: here is my thread other thread about susano requirements
    http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=258665
     
         
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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    yeah i guess >.>
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Yeah, all of we knows that Itachi need to unlock Tsukyomi and Amaterasu to use Susano, but Madara doesn't have any Amaterasu.
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Idk on this
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Everyone knows that from long ago...
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    You only need both mangekyou's to unlock Susano'o?!
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Of Thy Soul View Post
    You only need both mangekyou's to unlock Susano'o?!
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/464/16
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Black zetsu knew of it and explained exactly what it does to white zetsu

    "If the left Mangekyou posesses the most powerful Mangekyou, the right one holds the most powerful physical attack..

    and then a description of amaterasu..."

    That doesn't sound like someone who doesnt know of it
     
         
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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    Black zetsu knew of it and explained exactly what it does to white zetsu
    AFTER itachi used it
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    AFTER itachi used it
    Itachi did not use it yet..check the scan again my friend
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    Black zetsu knew of it and explained exactly what it does to white zetsu

    "If the left Mangekyou posesses the most powerful Mangekyou, the right one holds the most powerful physical attack..

    and then a description of amaterasu..."

    That doesn't sound like someone who doesnt know of it


    That's because he's talking about Itachi, this thinking is wrong...

    If Sasuke has amateratsu with his left eye, he can control it with his right eye? See the difference?

    And then at the kage summit Sasuke explained the rest.
     
         
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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    Black zetsu knew of it and explained exactly what it does to white zetsu

    "If the left Mangekyou posesses the most powerful Mangekyou, the right one holds the most powerful physical attack..

    and then a description of amaterasu..."

    That doesn't sound like someone who doesnt know of it
    might he have heard a rumor about it

    zetsu clearly states "we might actually get to see it"
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/388/17
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    might he have heard a rumor about it

    zetsu clearly states "we might actually get to see it"
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/388/17
    Black zetsu never saw Madara use it... Madara was in old age barely able to go places...

    Rumor? If he heard it as a rumor, White zetsu would have known of it aswell.... But white zetsu was completely clueless, yet the black knew exactly what it was and even that it's the partner jutsu to Tsukyomi... Unless you're going to imply that black and white split up and he heard it?


    You're starting to base your argument on pure conjecture not supported by the manga at all... this isn't proof what so ever


    if madara had amaterasu, zetsu wouldve already seen amaterasu before
    as I said wrong, when zetsu was made Madara was an old man, he never saw madara fight, he had knowledge of the ability, but never saw it in action
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    Black zetsu never saw Madara use it... Madara was in old age barely able to go places...

    Rumor? If he heard it as a rumor, White zetsu would have known of it aswell.... But white zetsu was completely clueless, yet the black knew exactly what it was and even that it's the partner jutsu to Tsukyomi... Unless you're going to imply that black and white split up and he heard it?


    You're starting to base your argument on pure conjecture not supported by the manga at all... this isn't proof what so ever
    black zetsu IS madara

    thats my proof

    if blackzetsu/madara NEVER seen amaterasu

    madara doesnt have it
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Databook says otherwise.
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by Unbiased View Post
    Databook says otherwise.


    Caster: Itachi Uchiha. So it only refers to Itachi, other wise every Susano'o would possess the Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade, but that's not the case.
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by natssuu View Post


    Caster: Itachi Uchiha. So it only refers to Itachi, other wise every Susano'o would possess the Yata Mirror and Totsuka Blade, but that's not the case.
    , no read the second paragraph on the right page.

    It says those who have mastered Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi get Susanoo, why would they say those ift hey were referring to Itachi's only for the whole entry?
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by Memoria View Post
    I was teasing you, don't take it seriously.
    Susanoo, Amaterasu, and Tsukuyomi being brothers in Japanese mythology is not a proof then? Okay, dismiss the fact that Kishimoto usually follows Japanese mythology in his manga. Databook literally stated that Susanoo can only be used by those possessing Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, read the underlined:



    Well, if that's not a proof for you either then it's clear that you're in denial.
    i just told you, i dont care because naruto is just an anime so why get mad/serious? its not like my life will chage lol

    now, i already told you that kishi lies/chages his mind/contradicts and i gave 4 examples, 3 of them wasnt that good tho lol

    you have no manga pages while i do, manga>databook because kishi can always change his mind

    and sasuke doesnt mention tsukuyomi or amaterasu here
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/464/16

    all you need is double mangekyou to unlock susano straight from the manga
    you got manga proof?

    Quote Originally Posted by UchihaBrothers View Post
    What are you talking about? Black zetsu only said those statements because he was suprised that Itachi was actually going to use amaterasu and he didnt think that itachi was actually going to use it.
    zetsu said "WE might actually get to see amaterasu" meaning they never saw it before

    Quote Originally Posted by KidGamer65 View Post
    , no read the second paragraph on the right page.

    It says those who have mastered Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi get Susanoo, why would they say those ift hey were referring to Itachi's only for the whole entry?
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/464/16

    nothing said about amaterasu and tsukuyomi being required
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    i just told you, i dont care because naruto is just an anime so why get mad/serious? its not like my life will chage lol

    now, i already told you that kishi lies/chages his mind/contradicts and i gave 4 examples, 3 of them wasnt that good tho lol

    you have no manga pages while i do, manga>databook because kishi can always change his mind

    and sasuke doesnt mention tsukuyomi or amaterasu here
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/464/16

    all you need is double mangekyou to unlock susano straight from the manga
    you got manga proof?



    zetsu said "WE might actually get to see amaterasu" meaning they never saw it before



    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/464/16
    Databook>Character Statements.

    All the Databook does is go in depth on what is necessary for Susanoo, its more specific.
     
         

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    Re: Susano DOESNT require Ama and tsu (proof)

    Quote Originally Posted by SakuXNaru View Post
    i just told you, i dont care because naruto is just an anime so why get mad/serious? its not like my life will chage lol

    now, i already told you that kishi lies/chages his mind/contradicts and i gave 4 examples, 3 of them wasnt that good tho lol

    you have no manga pages while i do, manga>databook because kishi can always change his mind

    and sasuke doesnt mention tsukuyomi or amaterasu here
    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/464/16

    all you need is double mangekyou to unlock susano straight from the manga
    you got manga proof?



    zetsu said "WE might actually get to see amaterasu" meaning they never saw it before



    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/464/16

    nothing said about amaterasu and tsukuyomi being required
    No, they only said that because they didnt think that Itachi was actually going to fight seriously enough to use amaterasu. Also Zetsu said, "The air around Itachi is changing." Then he said, "we might actually get to see amaterasu." Which means he reconized what happens to the air when soneone is about to use amaterasu.
     
         

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