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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Izuna Kakashi Senju View Post
    Yes Sasuke has surpassed Itachi. If they were to fight currently Sasuke would win, he has broke out of Tskuyomi with 3Tomoe Sharingan, he has much more stamina and chakra reserves than Itachi. He can keep his Susano'o up longer than Itachi plus Sasuke has the faster jutsu's such as Blaze Release:Magatama,Susano'o Arrows and he has a stronger defence than Itachi as Sasuke has shield of black flames on his Susano'o to keep Itachi back.
    The only reason sasuke would beat itachi now is cuz he went blind n got itachi eyes.I they were both at full power sasuke would lose just by itachi looking at him.
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by sage22 View Post
    Just cuz sasuke has itachi eyes doesn't mean anything. Also shisui eye was once his abilities so that only means sasuke will never surpass itachi. And how the hell do u need the 1st DNA to use izanami if itachi already used and why wouldnt it work on anybody. From my understanding all u need to do is set the person up in the loop. And finally sasuke can't keep his eyes active like itachi.
    My fault I meant you need the first dna for izanagi..an go reread the chapter where itachi explained izanami it does not just work on anybody it's for people who are trying to follow someone else path instead of there own..idk something like that itachi explained it very good...an shisui eye is gOne just let it go no one has that power anymore...an yes sasuke can keep his eyes activated there's just no reason to he has a uchiha body just having the sharingan out does nothing to his chakara.
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by sage22 View Post
    The only reason sasuke would beat itachi now is cuz he went blind n got itachi eyes.I they were both at full power sasuke would lose just by itachi looking at him.
    Sasuke wouldn't lose he has more stamina than Itachi does, and you are forgetting that Sasuke can spam his EMS techs, while Itachi will be exhausted after using Tsuki. And Sasuke has already broken out of Itachi's strongest genjutsu before with 3Tomoe Sharingan. And Itachi can hardly keep his Susano'o up for long while Sasuke has kept his Susano'o up for a long period of time look at his battle with Danzo and the five kages he had his Susano'o up for most of the fight.
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Sasuke is stronger and much much dumber than Itachi.
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by sage22 View Post
    First off since u mentioned itachi eye sight think about this sasuke eyes are blind. Next the fight wouldn't even come down to susanno and even if it did itachi is stronger. Finally itachi has izanami and shisui ms so itachi is clearly a level above sasuke.
    Sasuke's eyes are fine since he has ems, Itachi's are a problem he got shuriken parts in him because of it. Why wouldn't it come down to susanoo he can't take out Sasuke with regular ninjutus, taijutsu, genjutstu, tsukyomi or amaterasu as mentioned above all he has left is susanoo.

    Izanami isn't coming into play look how much trouble he had trying to pull it off against Kabuto and he had Sasuke helping. Sushi's eye isn't part of Itachi's arsenal either.
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Midday View Post
    Sasuke's eyes are fine since he has ems, Itachi's are a problem he got shuriken parts in him because of it. Why wouldn't it come down to susanoo he can't take out Sasuke with regular ninjutus, taijutsu, genjutstu, tsukyomi or amaterasu as mentioned above all he has left is susanoo.

    Izanami isn't coming into play look how much trouble he had trying to pull it off against Kabuto and he had Sasuke helping. Sushi's eye isn't part of Itachi's arsenal either.
    Sasuke eyes are not fine they are blind that's why hr had obito give him itachi. Itachi susanno is better than sasuke. And dispite what people have posted shisui eye was once a part of his arsenal so if he used it on sasuke game over.
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    My fault I meant you need the first dna for izanagi..an go reread the chapter where itachi explained izanami it does not just work on anybody it's for people who are trying to follow someone else path instead of there own..idk something like that itachi explained it very good...an shisui eye is gOne just let it go no one has that power anymore...an yes sasuke can keep his eyes activated there's just no reason to he has a uchiha body just having the sharingan out does nothing to his chakara.
    You got izanami wrong. Izanami can work on anyone. The thing is anyone can escape it. But you can only escape it if you realize you are in it and accept the fate that is happening to you. It's actually perfect for sasuke I think. And finally if you don't count shisui eye as part of itachi power than u can count sasuke ems as part of his power since its actually itachi eyes.
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by sage22 View Post
    Sasuke eyes are not fine they are blind that's why hr had obito give him itachi. Itachi susanno is better than sasuke. And dispite what people have posted shisui eye was once a part of his arsenal so if he used it on sasuke game over.
    Stop being dumb Sasuke's eyes are perfect he has ems not ms. Sasuke's susanoo is just as impressive with all the amaterasu manipulation and he can actually maintain his full susanoo for a while unlike Itachi. Shushi's eye isn't his jutsu.
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Midday View Post
    Stop being dumb Sasuke's eyes are perfect he has ems not ms. Sasuke's susanoo is just as impressive with all the amaterasu manipulation and he can actually maintain his full susanoo for a while unlike Itachi. Shushi's eye isn't his jutsu.
    Stop being stupid sasuke eyes went blind the last time he seen naruto. That's why obito transplanted itachis eyes into sasuke and that's how he got the ems duh. And no matter what u say itachi susanno is better. Finally if he has shisui eye in his summoning that makes it his jutsu. Smarten up before you speak.
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchihajin Sasuke View Post
    Sasuke has much higher chakra reserves and better amaterasu.

    There is nothing to prove that Itachi's Susanoo is better, because Sasuke has the arrows, sword and the Enton orb that infuses his weapons with amaterasu.
    This, Sasuke>Itachi and sasukes susanoo is better considering totsuka + yata doesnt beat susanoo blade + armor
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Draphsin View Post
    This, Sasuke>Itachi and sasukes susanoo is better considering totsuka + yata doesnt beat susanoo blade + armor
    You can't beat serious. If sasuke was to hit itachi with his susanno it might kill him. If itachi even touches sasuke with his susanno sword its over.
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by sage22 View Post
    Stop being stupid sasuke eyes went blind the last time he seen naruto. That's why obito transplanted itachis eyes into sasuke and that's how he got the ems duh. And no matter what u say itachi susanno is better. Finally if he has shisui eye in his summoning that makes it his jutsu. Smarten up before you speak.

    Again this is ems Sasuke. Ems has no drawbacks like blindness unlike ms.
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by sage22 View Post
    You can't beat serious. If sasuke was to hit itachi with his susanno it might kill him. If itachi even touches sasuke with his susanno sword its over.
    considering both of their stamina i dont see Itachi being able to land a hit on sasuke, susanoo takes a huge toll on Itachi and Sasuke can literally spam it
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by sage22 View Post
    You can't beat serious. If sasuke was to hit itachi with his susanno it might kill him. If itachi even touches sasuke with his susanno sword its over.
    The same can be said for Sasuke as well, if Itachi touches him he can get hit with blaze release and it's over.
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

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    Again this is ems Sasuke. Ems has no drawbacks like blindness unlike ms.
    The eyes he have now that allows him to have the ems belong to itachi.
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Midday View Post
    The same can be said for Sasuke as well, if Itachi touches him he can get hit with blaze release and it's over.
    I'm glad somebody understands what Kishi is trying to imply, both naruto and sasuke have both surpassed their elders (BM beats Minato and EMS beats Itachi) i thought it was obvious by now o_o
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Midday View Post
    The same can be said for Sasuke as well, if Itachi touches him he can get hit with blaze release and it's over.
    If you get it with ametarsu it COULD be fatal but its not a guarantee. Itachi totsuka blade is a guaranteed to end the fight.
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by sage22 View Post
    If you get it with ametarsu it COULD be fatal but its not a guarantee. Itachi totsuka blade is a guaranteed to end the fight.
    But itachis weakness is the duration of his susanoo which imo is not that long and will be his downfall + sasuke has amaterasu orb which is a ranged 1h ko
     
         

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    Re: Has sasuke truely surpassed itachi?

    Quote Originally Posted by sage22 View Post
    I know a lot of people think its not a question that sasuke has surpassed itachi but I say the only thing sasuke has over itachi is stamina. Look at the basics sharigan. Even tho sasuke has way more chakra he can't keep his sharigan activated like itachi. Thats let's you know itachi mastery over the sharigan is still a level higher than sasukes. Now look at ms abilities. Obviously they are the same powers but different effects. Itachi tsykuomi can only be countered by another uchiha while sasuke's is probably above average at best. Next sasuke ameterasu is better but barely considering their may be 5 ninja at the most fast enough to dodge it, it doesn't really matter. Next susanno obviously goes to itachi. Now sasuke does have itachi eyes and we haven't seen fully what he can do with them but itachi does have izanami and I myself think he has izangi but I have no proof of this. Last but not least itachi does have suishi( I know I spelled it wrong) ms. Now their still is taijutsu and they are about even. But ill give it to itachi cuz of the simple fact that itachi didn't need orochimaru n his drug to get his taijutsu as good as he is. But if you guys have any REASONS why u think sasuke has surpassed itachi I would love to hear them.
    Sasuke didnt use drugs to increase his power.
     
         

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