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    Kukaku and Ganju Shiba's Uncle is...

    ISSHIN KUROSAKI
    Well at least I think so. I've heard someone mention this before, but I have pieced together more facts to give logical explanation. If you don't know where I'm getting this from in a recent chapter (Ch.518, P.15-16), Ganju asks if Kukaku was ok with sending Ichigo to Soul Palace. Kukaku replies by saying that if Ichigo doesn't go, the Soul Society is will be destroyed. She says that they must let Ichigo go even if it makes "Uncle" sad. Now I've collected some evidence as to why I believe Isshin is Kukaku's Uncle.


    First of all I would like to quote an exert from my previous thread on Ichigo's Mom and Isshin.

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    • I also now understand why Kubo chose to include the Final Getsuga Tensho and the Final Quincy Form. Of course they were cool power ups for Ichigo and Uryu, but what purpose does it serve to the story? Why do they have to lose their powers? They have never used those forms again and I don't think they are capable of it. I think those Final forms serve as a solution for Isshin and Masaki. Being Shinigami and Quincy I doubt they'd be able to be together. Especially with all the tension between the two races. So I think they used those forms to erase their powers, so they could be together and live as humans.
    • This also explains why Urahara asked Isshin if he was ok with giving Ichigo back his Shinigami powers. Urahara also says that Isshin would be taking Ichigo's future away. Since Masaki and Isshin simply want to live normal lives as humans, restoring Ichigo's powers takes that life away from him
    In this quote I explained how and why Isshin gave up his powers. It was to be with a Quincy, Ichigo's Mom, Masaki. I also explain why Urahara asked if Isshin was ok with returning Ichigo's Shinigami powers at the end of The Fullbringer Arc (Ch.448, P.21).

    Now Ichigo has gone to the Soul Palace to rehabilitate himself and restore his Bankai so that he can face the Juha and the Quincies again. Ichigo is getting himself more involved with the Soul Society, which goes against what Isshin and Masaki wanted (Which was to be human, and be with each other). With the conclusion that Isshin does never wanted Ichigo to become a Shinigami or be involved with the Soul Society, I believe that Kukaku is referring to Isshin when she says "Even if uncle will be upset". It makes sense that Isshin would be upset that Ichigo has chosen this path.

    Another piece of evidence I would like to address is the Nobility of the Shiba Clan
    Originally they were included in the 4 Great Noble families but apparently fell out of Nobility after Kaien Shiba was killed. Now this seems unreasonable, the head of the Clan dies and they lose their status and are sent to Rukongai?
    But let's consider how Kaien died. He was possessed by a Hollow and forcefully dispatched by Rukia. Not exactly the most honorable death if you asked me. I think it might be considered shameful that he died like this. If we factor in the theory that Isshin is related to Kukaku and was maybe even the head of the Shiba Clan. Wouldn't his actions (defection from the Soul Society, removal of his powers and love for a Quincy) be considered a shameful act of desertion? So since both heads of the Shiba Clan dishonored the name of the Shiba Clan, I believe that this is why the Shiba Clan fell out of its high status.

    Finally a minor detail (or crucial hint) that has come to my attention is the similarities between the appearances of the Kurosakis and the Shibas. It might just be me, but I think Isshin looks like Ganju, Karin looks like Kukaku and Ichigo looks like Kaien. Now keep in mind it's not like they would look exactly alike. Isshin being Kukaku's uncle, would mean that Ichigo and Karen are Kukaku, Ganju and Kaien's cousins, their bloodlines aren't super close

    Let me know on what you think about this theory. Do you agree? Do you have any other evidence I might have missed? Let me know your thoughts ^^
     
         
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    Re: Kukaku and Ganju Shiba's Uncle is...

    Bloodlines...isn't that in Naruto, anyway yeah I can't really think of anyone other than Isshin that could be the uncle.
     
         

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    Re: Kukaku and Ganju Shiba's Uncle is...

    You clearly put some thought into this. I like it
     
         

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    Re: Kukaku and Ganju Shiba's Uncle is...

    Yes it looks that way. Since Ichigo and Kaien resemble one another, and the statement made by Kukaku it makes perfect sense for this to be true. Isshin may have deserted the SS or been banished for being in love with a quincy, especially considering the fact that Masaki could still have been connected somehow to Juha Bach and the others. Isshin could have been the head of the Shiba clan, and been banished, finally with Kaien dying in such a way they were revoked of their status as a noble family.
     
         

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