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    Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    my opinion: Current Status

    1. Monkey D Dragon
    2. Shanks
    3. Monkey D Garp
    4. Doflamingo
    5. Akainu
    6. Blackbeard
    7. Kizaru
    8. Aokiji
    9. Kaido
    10. Big Mam
    special mention # 11: Rayleigh

    yeah thats right. Doflmingo is stronger than the rest below. It's my prediction but you heard it first here.

    I feel like Akainu is still stronger than Blackbeard even if hes now a yonko and we still dont know how strong the other yonkos are.

    Aokiji is now the weakest admiral since he got injured and i believe he got a big ass scar from his fight with akainu.

    Didnt put Rayleigh since hes now older and he was breathing heavy during his fight with kizaru. But Garp is still up there like a boss.

    this is only my opinion. now whats yours?
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    shanks and dragon are close
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    What about: Kong? Sengoku? Mihawk? Rayleigh?
    I'm just gonna hold up with ranking the characters' powers until there's more to go from..
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    Quote Originally Posted by shri3kbat View Post
    What about: Kong? Sengoku? Mihawk? Rayleigh?
    I'm just gonna hold up with ranking the characters' powers until there's more to go from..
    we dont know shit about kong. i doubt hes stronger than garp.

    sengoku is the most overrated character

    mihawk is top 12

    i said rayleigh is top 11
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Swag View Post
    we dont know shit about kong. i doubt hes stronger than garp.

    sengoku is the most overrated character

    mihawk is top 12

    i said rayleigh is top 11
    Yea that's what I'm saying, we don't know much so that's why top 10 lists atm is just speculation unless you only count 10 who are comparable
    Garp and Sengoku beat Roger..
    Sengoku's fruit is the rarest sorts of Zoan aswell
    Kong could well be stronger than both Sengoku and Garp
     
         
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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    1. Shanks
    2. Dragon
    3. Blackbeard
    4. Akainu
    5. Doflamingo
    6. Kizaru
    7. Big Mam
    8. Aokiji
    9. Mihawk
    10. Kuma
    ***** for trying unlike these lazy bastards.

    altho kuma is not stronger than kaido

    Quote Originally Posted by shri3kbat View Post
    Yea that's what I'm saying, we don't know much so that's why top 10 lists atm is just speculation unless you only count 10 who are comparable
    Garp and Sengoku beat Roger..
    Sengoku's fruit is the rarest sorts of Zoan aswell
    Kong could well be stronger than both Sengoku and Garp
    garp and sengoku beat shiki.

    without garp , sengoku would probably be not the same as he is now.

    so what if he has the rarest zoan. that doesnt mean shit. marco has the rarest mythcal zoan but hes not top 10.

    kong looks like he would probably be in a movie like Z. but no. Garp is still the strongest marine ever.
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    what? blackbeard underneath doflamingo?......LOL hell no
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    Decent, I may change a few things given the time to consider different people's abilities but I can't be bothered with all that so good effort
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    1. Monkey D. Roger.
    2. Monkey D. Dragon.
    3. Shanks.
    4. Whitebeard.

    The rest is hard to tell, I don't even think if Whitebeard deserves to be there, I'd say that the Admirals should be equal before the Time skip to the four Emperors (For the exceptation of Shanks since even Borsanilo was even afraid of Ben Beckman, crew member of Shanks), but I don't know how it is now, Caliburn and Liliana their opinions are needed.
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jokey View Post
    1. Monkey D. Roger.
    2. Monkey D. Dragon.
    3. Shanks.
    4. Whitebeard.

    The rest is hard to tell, I don't even think if Whitebeard deserves to be there, I'd say that the Admirals should be equal before the Time skip to the four Emperors (For the exceptation of Shanks since even Borsanilo was even afraid of Ben Beckman, crew member of Shanks), but I don't know how it is now, Caliburn and Liliana their opinions are needed.
    whitebeard definitely doesnt deserve to be on this list... cuz he dead!!!

    and who the fuk is monkey d roger?

    benn beckman is a badass but we all know kizaru trolls 24/7.

    but one things for sure, your name suits you well.
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Swag View Post
    whitebeard definitely doesnt deserve to be on this list... cuz he dead!!!

    and who the fuk is monkey d roger?

    benn beckman is a badass but we all know kizaru trolls 24/7.

    but one things for sure, your name suits you well.
    Ah, 'Alive'.

    Roger, is the PIRATE KING. (I meant Gol D. Roger) Obviously not a One piece fan.

    And you should read www.onepiece.wikia.com

    You shouldn't tell me that my name suits my personality, because I obviously know more than you about one piece. And it's stated on One piece wikia that Borsenillo was a little afraid of Ben beckman

    Roger; Roger was called the "Pirate King" because his fighting power was nearly unstoppable. Only two people have ever matched Roger in battle: Vice Admiral Monkey D. Garp, who possesses immense strength even in old age and cornered him multiple times before his surrender, and his rival Edward "Whitebeard" Newgate who held the power of the Gura Gura no Mi and was called the "Strongest Man in the World" after Roger's death. Other examples of his strength include fighting on equal ground with Shiki, who commanded the largest pirate fleet of the time and single-handedly defeating the armies of several countries. He was possibly the strongest man in the world (together with his rival Whitebeard). Another testament to his strength is the fact that his first mate, Silvers Rayleigh, was able to battle on par with Admiral Kizaru, even in his old age.

    Kizaru; The admiral tries to attack Law's submarine before he escapes, but suddenly, Benn Beckman points his rifle at him and warns him not to move, which Kizaru complies with by putting his hands up. During the Battle of Marineford, Admiral Kizaru chose not to fight him, even though he had just fought the First Commander of Whitebeard's crew and Whitebeard himself.
     
         
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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    obviously you must know stuff about one piece more than i do since ive never heard of a 'monkey d roger'

    all i know is a dude named 'gol d roger' but maybe you're too advanced. and pls dont spoil anything.

    i dont believe everything on wiki tho.

    like i said we can never predict kizaru.
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Swag View Post
    obviously you must know stuff about one piece more than i do since ive never heard of a 'monkey d roger'

    all i know is a dude named 'gol d roger' but maybe you're too advanced. and pls dont spoil anything.

    i dont believe everything on wiki tho.

    like i said we can never predict kizaru.
    Once again I meant Gol D. Roger, and you should be more describe full, because the list you made is before the time skip, because we don't know what everyone their true abilities are at the moment.
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jokey View Post
    Once again I meant Gol D. Roger, and you should be more describe full, because the list you made is before the time skip, because we don't know what everyone their true abilities are at the moment.
    alright... but i said current meaning right now.

    and im pretty sure about my top 5. im sticking to it no matter what.
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    Dolf lol wtfudge. xD. Oh and btw your name suits you Red, you're clearly rockin' that period swag like a boss.
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    Quote Originally Posted by Scaze View Post
    Dolf lol wtfudge. xD. Oh and btw your name suits you Red, you're clearly rockin' that period swag like a boss.
    yes. im the 1st one to say doflamingo is around shanks level. hes better than akainu and blackbeard.
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    1. Shanks
    2. Dragon
    3. Blackbeard
    4. Akainu
    5. Doflamingo
    6. Kizaru
    7. Big Mam
    8. Aokiji
    9. Mihawk
    10. Kuma
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    Care to back up your assumptions of Dolf being so amazingly strong, and Garp being "The strongest Marine ever"? z.z
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    1. Sakazuki.

    • Magu Magu No Mi is without a doubt one of the strongest Devil Fruit to have ever exist.
    • Probably mastering between 2-3 forms of Haki.
    • Having access to Rokushiki.

    2. Borsalino.

    • Pika Pika No Mi is also without a doubt one of the strongest Devil Fruit to have ever exist.
    • Probably mastering between 2-3 forms of Haki.
    • Having access to Rokushiki.
    • Swordsmanship.

    3. Kuzan.

    • Hie Hie No Mi, again, is also without a doubt one of the strongest Devil Fruit to have ever exist.
    • Probably mastering between 2-3 forms of Haki.
    • Having access to Rokushiki.

    4. Marshall D. Teach.

    • Yami Yami No Mi, not the strongest due to it's user still being vulnerable to physical attack but also, physical attacks will hit him harder thus causing more damage to it's user than what he/she should've received. It's not the strongest Devil Fruit but it's the most unique Devil Fruit. It's unique due to it's capability to control gravity and sucking anything into it's nothingness. It also answers why Blackbeard managed to use Whitebeard's Gura Gura No Mi because the Devil Fruit are pulled into it's nothingness, cancelling it from the original user's body though it doesn't answers why Blackbeard aren't affected by "the curse" but the possible explanation for it is the Devil Fruit aren't in his body but instead in Yami Yami No Mi's nothingness.
    • Gura Gura No Mi, the strongest Devil Fruit in paramecia class and easily equal or stronger than some of Logia's fruits.
    • It's possible for him to have a decent amount of fighting ability due to him injuring Shanks before he consumed Yami Yami No Mi.
    • Possibly mastering Haki during the time-skip since it's becoming mainstream among pirates and marines ever since the time-skip.

    5. Shanks.

    • Seem to have a decent or great amount of mastering in swordsmanship.
    • Mastering all three forms of Haki.

    6. Dracule Mihawk.

    • Greatest swordsman in the world.
    • Possibly between 2-3 forms of Haki.

    7. Monkey D. Dragon.

    • It's possible for him to be stronger or equal to Garp in strength due to the fact that strength seems to run through the Monkey family.
    • It's possible for him to master all three forms of Haki.
    • [Theory] If he were once a former marine then that would give him full access to Rokushiki therefore there's a chance he might have mastered it.
    • Devil Fruit. [unknown but probably one of the strongest Devil Fruit to have ever existed]

    8. Monkey D. Garp.

    • Amazing amount of strength.
    • Possibly mastering all three forms of Haki.
    • Great in combat.
    • Access to Rokushiki.

    9. Sengoku.

    • Hito Hito No Mi, Model: Daibatsu, a powerful Mythical Zoan Devil Fruit.
    • Access to Rokushiki.
    • Possibly between 2-3 [2 seems to be more logical] forms of haki.

    10. Bartholomew Kuma.

    • Nikyu Nikyu No Mi, a unique Paramecia class Devil Fruit capable of repelling attacks and pain/injury.
    • Cyborg.
    • Having one of Pika Pika No Mi attack in his right hand.



    Put in note that the list is put that way because there hasn't been much shown yet to prove who's stronger than who. It's possible for Monkey D. Dragon and Shanks to being the strongest in all of them but due to them both having lack of screen-time and having their abilities put in shadows, they aren't number one based on what One Piece has shown so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Swag View Post

    altho kuma is not stronger than kaido
    You've seen them in a battle? You've seen Kaido's true strength?
    Just because he's one of the Yonkou, doesn't suddenly make him stronger than Bartholomew Kuma.
    Shichibukai chose to become Shichibukai due to their own reasons, there is a huge possibility that they are equal or stronger than one of the current Yonkou. Bartholomew Kuma himself is a former revolutionist.

    Unless it's proven or you've actually seen Kaido's true strength, no need to make it seem as if it's a fact that Kaido's stronger than Kuma.



    Quote Originally Posted by Red Swag View Post

    without garp , sengoku would probably be not the same as he is now.

    so what if he has the rarest zoan. that doesnt mean shit. marco has the rarest mythcal zoan but hes not top 10.

    kong looks like he would probably be in a movie like Z. but no. Garp is still the strongest marine ever.

    Garp's the strongest marine "ever"?
    You're implying that there aren't any other marines stronger than him?

    Just because someone has the same class of Devil Fruit as another person, does not simply make their fruit's strength the same. Ace and Sakazuki shares the same class of Devil Fruit but magma > fire therefore having the same class of Devil Fruit doesn't guarantee the same strength.
     
         
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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    Quote Originally Posted by Eustass View Post
    1. Sakazuki.

    • Magu Magu No Mi is without a doubt one of the strongest Devil Fruit to have ever exist.
    • Probably mastering between 2-3 forms of Haki.
    • Having access to Rokushiki.

    2. Borsalino.

    • Pika Pika No Mi is also without a doubt one of the strongest Devil Fruit to have ever exist.
    • Probably mastering between 2-3 forms of Haki.
    • Having access to Rokushiki.
    • Swordsmanship.

    3. Kuzan.

    • Hie Hie No Mi, again, is also without a doubt one of the strongest Devil Fruit to have ever exist.
    • Probably mastering between 2-3 forms of Haki.
    • Having access to Rokushiki.

    4. Marshall D. Teach.

    • Yami Yami No Mi, not the strongest due to it's user still being vulnerable to physical attack but also, physical attacks will hit him harder thus causing more damage to it's user than what he/she should've received. It's not the strongest Devil Fruit but it's the most unique Devil Fruit. It's unique due to it's capability to control gravity and sucking anything into it's nothingness. It also answers why Blackbeard managed to use Whitebeard's Gura Gura No Mi because the Devil Fruit are pulled into it's nothingness, cancelling it from the original user's body though it doesn't answers why Blackbeard aren't affected by "the curse" but the possible explanation for it is the Devil Fruit aren't in his body but instead in Yami Yami No Mi's nothingness.
    • Gura Gura No Mi, the strongest Devil Fruit in paramecia class and easily equal or stronger than some of Logia's fruits.
    • It's possible for him to have a decent amount of fighting ability due to him injuring Shanks before he consumed Yami Yami No Mi.
    • Possibly mastering Haki during the time-skip since it's becoming mainstream among pirates and marines ever since the time-skip.

    5. Shanks.

    • Seem to have a decent or great amount of mastering in swordsmanship.
    • Mastering all three forms of Haki.

    6. Dracule Mihawk.

    • Greatest swordsman in the world.
    • Possibly between 2-3 forms of Haki.

    7. Monkey D. Dragon.

    • It's possible for him to be stronger or equal to Garp in strength due to the fact that strength seems to run through the Monkey family.
    • It's possible for him to master all three forms of Haki.
    • [Theory] If he were once a former marine then that would give him full access to Rokushiki therefore there's a chance he might have mastered it.
    • Devil Fruit. [unknown but probably one of the strongest Devil Fruit to have ever existed]

    8. Monkey D. Garp.

    • Amazing amount of strength.
    • Possibly mastering all three forms of Haki.
    • Great in combat.
    • Access to Rokushiki.

    9. Sengoku.

    • Hito Hito No Mi, Model: Daibatsu, a powerful Mythical Zoan Devil Fruit.
    • Access to Rokushiki.
    • Possibly between 2-3 [2 seems to be more logical] forms of haki.

    10. Bartholomew Kuma.

    • Nikyu Nikyu No Mi, a unique Paramecia class Devil Fruit capable of repelling attacks and pain/injury.
    • Cyborg.
    • Having one of Pika Pika No Mi attack in his right hand.



    Put in note that the list is put that way because there hasn't been much shown yet to prove who's stronger than who. It's possible for Monkey D. Dragon and Shanks to being the strongest in all of them but due to them both having lack of screen-time and having their abilities put in shadows, they aren't number one based on what One Piece has shown so far.



    You've seen them in a battle? You've seen Kaido's true strength?
    Just because he's one of the Yonkou, doesn't suddenly make him stronger than Bartholomew Kuma.
    Shichibukai chose to become Shichibukai due to their own reasons, there is a huge possibility that they are equal or stronger than one of the current Yonkou. Bartholomew Kuma himself is a former revolutionist.

    Unless it's proven or you've actually seen Kaido's true strength, no need to make it seem as if it's a fact that Kaido's stronger than Kuma.






    Garp's the strongest marine "ever"?
    You're implying that there aren't any other marines stronger than him?

    Just because someone has the same class of Devil Fruit as another person, does not simply make their fruit's strength the same. Ace and Sakazuki shares the same class of Devil Fruit but magma > fire therefore having the same class of Devil Fruit doesn't guarantee the same strength.
    I don't see Teach or Kuzan being stronger than Shanks. Borsalino, well just neck and neck.
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    I don't see Teach or Kuzan being stronger than Shanks. Borsalino, well just neck and neck.
    I don't see that happening as well but like I said, based on what we've seen so far. It wouldn't be fair to assume something based on what we think or based on little of what we've seen. I'm sure he's stronger than Kuzan and Teach but until it's fully shown, it's better to not make any assumption.
     
         

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    Re: Top 10 One Piece characters "ALIVE"

    Quote Originally Posted by Eustass View Post
    1. Sakazuki.

    • Magu Magu No Mi is without a doubt one of the strongest Devil Fruit to have ever exist.
    • Probably mastering between 2-3 forms of Haki.
    • Having access to Rokushiki.

    2. Borsalino.

    • Pika Pika No Mi is also without a doubt one of the strongest Devil Fruit to have ever exist.
    • Probably mastering between 2-3 forms of Haki.
    • Having access to Rokushiki.
    • Swordsmanship.

    3. Kuzan.

    • Hie Hie No Mi, again, is also without a doubt one of the strongest Devil Fruit to have ever exist.
    • Probably mastering between 2-3 forms of Haki.
    • Having access to Rokushiki.

    4. Marshall D. Teach.

    • Yami Yami No Mi, not the strongest due to it's user still being vulnerable to physical attack but also, physical attacks will hit him harder thus causing more damage to it's user than what he/she should've received. It's not the strongest Devil Fruit but it's the most unique Devil Fruit. It's unique due to it's capability to control gravity and sucking anything into it's nothingness. It also answers why Blackbeard managed to use Whitebeard's Gura Gura No Mi because the Devil Fruit are pulled into it's nothingness, cancelling it from the original user's body though it doesn't answers why Blackbeard aren't affected by "the curse" but the possible explanation for it is the Devil Fruit aren't in his body but instead in Yami Yami No Mi's nothingness.
    • Gura Gura No Mi, the strongest Devil Fruit in paramecia class and easily equal or stronger than some of Logia's fruits.
    • It's possible for him to have a decent amount of fighting ability due to him injuring Shanks before he consumed Yami Yami No Mi.
    • Possibly mastering Haki during the time-skip since it's becoming mainstream among pirates and marines ever since the time-skip.

    5. Shanks.

    • Seem to have a decent or great amount of mastering in swordsmanship.
    • Mastering all three forms of Haki.

    6. Dracule Mihawk.

    • Greatest swordsman in the world.
    • Possibly between 2-3 forms of Haki.

    7. Monkey D. Dragon.

    • It's possible for him to be stronger or equal to Garp in strength due to the fact that strength seems to run through the Monkey family.
    • It's possible for him to master all three forms of Haki.
    • [Theory] If he were once a former marine then that would give him full access to Rokushiki therefore there's a chance he might have mastered it.
    • Devil Fruit. [unknown but probably one of the strongest Devil Fruit to have ever existed]

    8. Monkey D. Garp.

    • Amazing amount of strength.
    • Possibly mastering all three forms of Haki.
    • Great in combat.
    • Access to Rokushiki.

    9. Sengoku.

    • Hito Hito No Mi, Model: Daibatsu, a powerful Mythical Zoan Devil Fruit.
    • Access to Rokushiki.
    • Possibly between 2-3 [2 seems to be more logical] forms of haki.

    10. Bartholomew Kuma.

    • Nikyu Nikyu No Mi, a unique Paramecia class Devil Fruit capable of repelling attacks and pain/injury.
    • Cyborg.
    • Having one of Pika Pika No Mi attack in his right hand.



    Put in note that the list is put that way because there hasn't been much shown yet to prove who's stronger than who. It's possible for Monkey D. Dragon and Shanks to being the strongest in all of them but due to them both having lack of screen-time and having their abilities put in shadows, they aren't number one based on what One Piece has shown so far.



    You've seen them in a battle? You've seen Kaido's true strength?
    Just because he's one of the Yonkou, doesn't suddenly make him stronger than Bartholomew Kuma.
    Shichibukai chose to become Shichibukai due to their own reasons, there is a huge possibility that they are equal or stronger than one of the current Yonkou. Bartholomew Kuma himself is a former revolutionist.

    Unless it's proven or you've actually seen Kaido's true strength, no need to make it seem as if it's a fact that Kaido's stronger than Kuma.






    Garp's the strongest marine "ever"?
    You're implying that there aren't any other marines stronger than him?

    Just because someone has the same class of Devil Fruit as another person, does not simply make their fruit's strength the same. Ace and Sakazuki shares the same class of Devil Fruit but magma > fire therefore having the same class of Devil Fruit doesn't guarantee the same strength.
    Kuma doesn't belong in top 10. He's not even the 4th strongest shichibukai.
     
         

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    Kuma doesn't belong in top 10. He's not even the 4th strongest shichibukai.
    He is, based on what we've seen so far. I doubt anyone else deserve to be there other than him, based on what we've seen so far.
    But, you did say he's not the strongest of the Shichibukai, then who's the other four stronger than him?
     
         

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    He is, based on what we've seen so far. I doubt anyone else deserve to be there other than him, based on what we've seen so far.
    But, you did say he's not the strongest of the Shichibukai, then who's the other four stronger than him?
    Theres still luffy, magellan, Law, kid(if equal to luffy and kid), Zoro, Marco, Jozu, Vista, yonko first mate, Maybe sanji, Maybe vergo, Hancock, Doffy, Smoker, high VAs, and more I couldn't think off of my head right now.

    Based on feats alone: Luffy, Magellan, Maybe Zoro but he hasn't shown much, Law, Marco, Jozu, Smoker, vista, Maybe sanji, Doffy. These are all I can think off of my head right now.


    Hancock(based on hype and she made Momonga stab himself), Law, Doffy, Mihawk
     
         
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    Theres still luffy, magellan, Law, kid(if equal to luffy and kid), Zoro, Marco, Jozu, Vista, yonko first mate, Maybe sanji, Maybe vergo, Hancock, Doffy, Smoker, high VAs, and more I couldn't think off of my head right now.

    Based on feats alone: Luffy, Magellan, Maybe Zoro but he hasn't shown much, Law, Marco, Jozu, Smoker, vista, Maybe sanji, Doffy. These are all I can think off of my head right now.


    Hancock(based on hype and she made Momonga stab himself), Law, Doffy, Mihawk
    Monkey D. Luffy.

    • Luffy's too early to be considered one of the top ten. He's shown great mastery over all three haki's and his second gear as well as third gear has improve to the point where it won't affect his health nor life-span due to him pumping blood in only one particular part of his body instead of his whole body before the time-skip but I still don't see him defeating any of them yet. Let's not forget the only reason he managed to defeat Garp was becaue Garp let him land a punch on him, Garp could have easily avoided the punch.

    Magellan.

    • Magellan has a unique and powerful Paramecia class Devil Fruit that can easily equal some of Logia's fruit but I can see all the top ten character defeating him. I believe even Luffy can defeat him after the time-skip due to the fact that poison has no affect on him anymore ever since his body's immune system has been boosts to counter any poisons, especially Doku Doku No Mi's poisons.

    Jozu.

    • Jozu is nowhere near the level of any of the top ten. He's able to give Kuzan a great fight and the only reason Kuzan defeat him was because his attention was toward Marco when Borsalino struck him with one of the attack's from his Pika Pika No Mi and I believe he could be in the top ten but ever since his arm was cut off [If I remember correctly] then it would easily have weakened him in some way. Whilst Kuzan trained to become stronger during the time-skip [Obviously], it's possible for Jozu to trained himself in fighting with only one armed but that would still make him less powerful than he was. Put in note that he is not Shanks where's he's capable of swordsmanship but instead fight using both of his arm. It's sad because he could have become one of the most powerful characters of the series.

    Roronoa Zoro.

    • Without a doubt, one of the strongest character in One Piece after the time-skip but it seems that no-one has been able to give him a good fight where we could see him at his full power so it's too early to make any assumption that he's capable of defeating any of the top-ten.

    Trafalgar Law.

    • Trafalgar Law is also one of the strongest character in One Piece but if he were to meet someone who could counter his ability such as anyone with amazing speed and any Logia's then he could easily be defeated since Logia won't be harmed by his Ope Ope No Mi even though he has haki since there hasn't been shown whether it's possible for someone of Paramecia's class to haki-coat their Devil Fruit abilities related to such abilities such as Ope Ope No Mi and Scrathmen Apoo's unnamed Devil Fruit ability where he's capable of cutting through his enemies through music.

    Smoker.

    Let's examine Smoker's ability first.

    Moku Moku No Mi which enable him to manipulate, create and transform into smokes. Currently, I don't see much threat coming from this Devil Fruit.

    Moku Moku No Mi's main/seen attack's.

    White Out in which Smoker shoots normal smoke from his arms and uses them to devour his opponent, then makes the smoke compact to trap them inside it.

    White Blow in which Smoker shoots thick smokes from his arms to blast his opponent hard.

    White Snake in which Smoker launches a long snake of thick snow to make them track/follow his opponents until it grabs them.

    White Spark in which Smoker transform his some of his body or his whole body into smokes and charges towards his opponents.

    White Vine in which Smoker transform into a spiraling of smokes to trap his enemies.

    White Launcher in which Smoker transforms himself into smokes and launches himself towards his opponents.

    Conclusion : Moku Moku No Mi currently shows no threat towards time-skip Luffy nor even any of the top ten characters. Anyone with haki can defeat him and due to him transforming into smoke whenever he uses White Launches, it made it easier for his opponents to land a punch or kick toward him.

    Haki.

    Kenbunshoku Haki.

    • It's possible for him to have mastered this form of haki but during the fight with Trafalgar Law, he didn't show any sign that he have it but it's still possible for him to have it but I, or maybe most of us or all of us haven't realize it yet or it just hasn't been stated or shown yet since it's been stated that all of the Vice Admirals must at least mastered one form of haki's.

    Busoshoku Haki.

    • It's obvious that he's capable of using this type of haki since after the time-skip, it seems that almost all the top pirates capable of matching up with any of the Logia's user and I think I remember once where Luffy said "ouch" when being struck by Smoker and since Luffy is made of rubber then it's possible that it was the effect of Busoshoku.

    Rokushiki.

    • It's been told that every top ranking marines has access to Rokushiki so it's possible for him to mastered some forms of it before or after the time-skip. Currently, it hasn't been shown whether he mastered it or not in his fight against Vergo [put in note that he purposely chose to fight using his Moku Moku No Mi in order to steal Law's heart from Vergo] and Trafalgar Law.

    Now that I've explained his abilities, I can say that he isn't capable of defeating any of the top ten yet but I'm sure somewhere in the future, he will definitely become one of the top ten.

    Vista.

    • Vista is a great swordsmen, it's been shown that he's capable equally fighting Dracule Mihawk but the fight was cut short by the incident where Squard stabbed Whitebeard therefore assumption on him being an equal to Dracule Mihawk should be analyze or shouldn't exist unless it was a fight where there are no incidents to have any sort of effects towards the fight.

    Yonkō's first mate which I assume is Ben Beckman[?]

    • It wouldn't be fair to assume his strength's based on Borsalino's reaction toward him when he pointed flintlock rifle which I assume he uses a haki-coated bullets or the fight between him and Higuma's mountain bandit's crew since it's been shown that Borsalino continued with his attacks on Heart Pirates submarine and Higuma's mountain bandit's crew weren't much of an opponent for him. Unless his true abilities are shown, we shouldn't hype him too much but I do believe that he is a powerful person, capable of being equal to any of the three admirals before the time-skip.

    Sanji.

    • Honestly, I don't see him defeating any of the top ten, not in his current strength. He will in the future but not just yet. I'm sure he's improve a lot and it wouldn't be fair to assume his current strength based on his fight against Vergo where he managed to defeat Vergo but only because Vergo shown no interest in fighting Sanji and it seems that his kicks doesn't seem to harm or injure Vergo that much.

    Any of the Vice-Admirals.

    • I don't see much of them yet except from Momonga, Strawberry Dalmatian, Vergo and Smoker. Correct me if there are other Vice-Admirals that has been shown fighting any opponents, excluding John Giant where he got his ass handed to him by Whitebeard and Tsuru due to her being the strategist of the marines. Based on Oda's logic and plot, he would usually use any of the Vice-Admirals or characters that he categorize as weak during the series and hide powerful characters for the future of the series such as choosing the next to Admirals to replace both Kuzan and Sakazuki.

    Other shown Vice-Admirals

    Comil is shown both during Portgas D. Ace's mini story and in the Battle Of Marineford. He's one of my favorite Vice-Admirals due to him believing in "Moral Justice" but his strength hasn't been shown at all. It's obvious that he's capable of using some form of haki and seems to be a capable swordsman but that's his only abilities that we've known so far so it's hard to make any assumptions or theories.

    Oniguma and Doberman both seem to be a believer of "Absolute Justice" which made both of them one of the prime candidates on known Vice-Admirals to become an Admiral but their strength is also currently unknown.

    Giant Squad Vice-Admirals

    • Both Lacroix and Ronse's abilities aren't shown much. Other giant Vice-Admirals are shown to help Lacroix get on his feet implying that he got his ass handed to him or simply tired from the battles whilst Ronse got his ass handed to him by Whitebeard's Vista and Whitebeard himself.

    Vice-Admirals toy'd by Donquixote Doflamingo.

    Mozambia and Stainless abilities are unknown but they are easily trapped by Doflamingo's possible puppet-like Devil Fruit whilst Cancer, another Vice-Admiral who abilities are unknown, couldn't even do anything to stop them from trying to kill each other.

    Other shown Vice-Admirals.

    Bastille abilities are unknown and he doesn't seem to be fighting nor received much screen-time during the war.

    Filler Vice-Admirals.

    Jonathan seem to be a future candidate for Admirals position even though he's a filler character and based on Oda's way to creation his stories, it's possible for Jonathan to be in the future of the show since Oda wouldn't create a character and put more canon details in them which in his case, being a Sakazuki's protege. The same goes with a character that goes by the name of Bogart [Bogart possibly isn't his real name but added/created by fan in order identify him for future reference] is also a possible Admirals candidate due to him being one of the most mysterious character in the series and since Oda based the three admirals creation based on actors and since Bogart has the similar appearance to Humphrey Bogart, it's possible for him to be the future Admirals, added with mysteries surrounding his creation and appearance as well as his strength therefore it's possible for him to be a Vice-Admiral but currently, it's just a theory.

    Boa Hancock.

    • It's obvious that she's one of the powerful character as well as the most powerful female pirate of the series shown so far excluding Big Mam due to her abilities being unknown but it's highly unlikely for other characters in the top ten to fall for her Mero Mero No Mi's ability. It's also been shown that her physical attacks are capable of turning anything she touches into rocks similar to Greek Mythology's Medusa abilities whereas any person who look at her face will turned to rock. Her abilities are one of the unique and if-used-properly-with-no-plot-related-would-be-one-of-the-strongest Devil Fruit but currently, it's hard to make any theories nor assumptions on her abilities.

    Donquixote Doflamingo.

    • Considered to be one of the most powerful characters in the entire series based on hype and also because he is the only Shichibukai shown before time-skip that the Strawhats' haven't encounter. He's capable of slicing through anything by using his finger whilst controlling others like puppet using his fingers as if there's a string attached to the person he's using it on. His Devil Fruit is not only unnamed by also confusing and there has been many theories on whether those are even Devil Fruit or an advance version of Haoshoku Haki but like I said before, unless a character strength is known, it's better to not make any assumption because based on hype alone, he could easily be top five or even top two.

    You've shown a couple of great characters possible to be in the top ten but most of them strengths are either unknown or their full capabilities are not fully shown. I'm sorry if there are any typos because I'm getting sleepy and correct me if I made a mistake on my explanation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Red Swag View Post
    just bcuz blackbeard is now a 'new' yonko doesnt mean hes stronger than rayleigh or shanks or whatever. and based on what we've seen so far he's scared of akainu and shanks. based on what weve seen so far my top 11 rayleigh would shit on blackbeard anyday, based on what weve seen so far.
    He is in the list not because he's the new Yonkō but because he has two of the most powerful abilities in the series.

    • Yami Yami No Mi is a darkness fruit. He's capable of stealing others Devil Fruit abilities by pulling them into the fruit's nothingness thus leaving him harmless since the abilities are not in him but in the fruit's nothingness. It's possible for him to have steal many more powerful Devil Fruit abilities during the time-skip. Using the "based on what we've seen" logic on something such as Yami Yami No Mi is senseless. He's capable of stealing others Devil Fruit abilities and it would be idiotic for him to not steal anymore abilities during the time-skip since everyone has improved their strength during the time-skip.

    • Gura Gura No Mi is an abilities he has never used against an opponent yet, and based on how Whitebeard perform the fruit's ability, it's easy for him to become one of the strongest character thus far.

    Silver Rayleigh won't be able to harm him more than others since his fruit won't allow him to become intangible to physical attacks. Silver Rayleigh is capable of facing him but the chances of defeating him becomes less ever since Blackkbeard stole the Gura Gura No Mi's abilities.

    Before the start of the series, Blackbeard managed to injure Shanks in one of many unseen fights between Roger Pirates and Whitebeard Pirates. I already state that Shanks is stronger than him before the time-skip [before he stole Gura Gura No Mi's ability from Whitebeard]. He also told Shanks that "we" implying to his crew are not ready to face Shanks crew yet. It's possible for him to state all that because he knows that there are 50/50 chances that his crew will be defeated whilst also possible for him to not wanting to start any pointless fights when there isn't a reason to do so.


    Quote Originally Posted by Red Swag View Post
    and to think kuma who has recently lost himself and just a ****in robot is better than kaido is ridiculous. kaido who is one of the original yonko?! wow. and blackbeard just recently become one. and the only reason is bcuz the govt lost aokiji and they needed replacement.
    • I guess you haven't realize that becoming a full cyborg made Bartholomew Kuma an even more dangerous opponent. He has no emotions nor ideals but it's clear that he's still able to think as in able to fight without the need of command.

    Have you seen Kaido's true ability? I already said before that the Shichibukai's are pirates who chose to become one for their own benefits and Kuma isn't excluded from it as well since he agreed to sacrifice himself and become a full cyborg because of an unknown reason and Dragon seem to be aware of the reason meaning there's a chance he's taking orders from Dragon when he become a full cyborg and also when he joined the Shichibukai. Being a Shichibukai does not exclude them from being capable of becoming a Yonkō and Gekko Moriah was even said to once equal the power of Kaido in one-on-one and he was easily defeated by several Pacifistas and Donquixote Doflamingo.

    I don't understand the bold part.



    Quote Originally Posted by Red Swag View Post
    based on what weve seen so far blackbeard and akainu are afraid of shanks. while not to whitebeard. and you still put akainu at no 1 spot and shanks at 5? hoo shit. garp even said hed kill akainu. based on what weve seen so far.

    that 'based on what wev seen so far' aint all that.
    Sakazuki are afraid of Shanks? Did it mention anywhere that Sakazuki said he's scared of Shanks? It's clear that he's shocked that Shanks is at the war and they're facing another Yonkō after defeating one of the Yonkō and Sengoku is the one who told them to stop fighting and ended the war so the possible fight between Shanks and Sakazuki was cut short without them even starting the fight. Shanks is one of my favorite characters whilst Sakazuki is one of the characters I hate but that doesn't mean I should be a fan-boy and put anyone I like number one whilst excluding everyone I hate from the list.

    Blackbeard feared Whitebeard but he had no choice because that was the best chance for him to steal his Gura Gura No Mi's ability. If it wasn't for that ability then he wouldn't even showed up at the war. The same goes with when he was shown to be afraid of Sakazuki, it's possible for him to not facing an opponent as strong as Sakazuki when there are no reason for him to do so in the first place. For the Marine Battleship? They aren't that stupid to put their life on the line senselessly just for a Marine Battleship.



    Quote Originally Posted by Red Swag View Post
    and it aint about bcuz akainu has magma and it's > fire... NOO!!!.. it's simply bcuz akainu is just too strong for ace.
    his haki is way better. ever wondered why he survived wb's assault...
    doesnt matter if it;s aokiji or kizaru who fought ace, theyd still put a hole in ace's stomach bcuz of their haki not their df.

    dofla / mihawk / law are stronger than kuma.
    Magma > Fire, an actual fact. It has nothing to do with strength but instead which Devil Fruit cancels the other one. They weren't using haki when fighting but instead Devil Fruit and it has nothing to do with strength when using Logia Devil Fruit. But when he faced Whitebeard, it's because of his strength. But not when facing Ace. If Ace had a better Devil Fruit then the magma wouldn't even harm him since he can become intangible to any non-haki attacks except from a Devil Fruit that cancels their Devil Fruit abilities and it was shown that the magma is the one that cut through the fire, not haki. The same goes for Borsalino and Kuzan.

    You're putting a character who's abilities are unknown over a character who's abilities are known as in Donquixote Doflamingo > Bartholomew Kuma? Dracule Mihawk is already on the list so I don't understand why you even bother putting his name there. As for Trafalgar Law, he had a hard time facing a Pacifistas before the time-skip and it hasn't even been shown his full strength after the time-skip except for him switching the Strawhats', Tashigi and Smoker's hearts and also because I already stated that speed can counter his Ope Ope No Mi and based on Bartholomew Kuma's speed, Law has no chances against him but still too early to predict. Plus, it's still too early for him to even be in the top ten, the same goes with Monkey D. Luffy, Roronoa Zoro, Sanji, Eustass Kid, X Drake, Scrathmen Apoo and Basil Hawkins based on strength alone.
     
         

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