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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    this chapter finally cleared up a few things... ffrom wat i got from this chapter its telling me that when the six paths gave a his eyes to the oldest it was the riggingan but in the manga it said the bloodline thined wat i get from this is that from the riggingan it became a byakugan the the sharingan and the senju are just decendents of the youngest who got the body ect. it help alot cause when i read the spoilers i was wondering because i remember the manga saying that the sharingan came from the huuyga so i was kinda confused but now it makes sense
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth Assasin View Post
    yea.... i guess this does make him a villian...

    abt the byakugan... i rem reading sumwhere tht the sharingan was a mutation of the byakugan... but this chapter completely negates tht!!!!!
    not necessarilly cuz if the rinnegan was first then he said that it was thinned out, it could be that the byakugan was a more concentrated version of the sharingan. they have said many times that the white eyes is stronger than the sharingan and maybe the white eyes has a second level or something that is harder to manafest. jus my thoughts tho
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Dabz View Post
    On page 5 what are the last 2 pictures about(i cant post links as i only made 2 posts ), is that meant to be sasuke or madara and sage naruto? m kinda wierd

    please comment
    It is Sasuke, naruto don't have sharingan, and the one who is infront of that guy with sharingan is Shi, the one who can use genjutsu, madara is taliking with naruto, and they both are away from fight, so this is sasuke. It wasn't that hard to figure it out...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    from what i have read it seems that itachi knew from the begining that all of this goin to happen and gave naruto his power and he activated sasuke's MS and i think he knew that naruto and sasuke will fight madara so he gave them those powers. it seems that itachi was the smartest guy in the whole manga.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by uzamaki2223 View Post
    not necessarilly cuz if the rinnegan was first then he said that it was thinned out, it could be that the byakugan was a more concentrated version of the sharingan. they have said many times that the white eyes is stronger than the sharingan and maybe the white eyes has a second level or something that is harder to manafest. jus my thoughts tho
    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth Assasin View Post
    I finally found it....

    Naruto 78 page 13 | One Manga

    READ THIS/.... it CLEARLY SAYS THT THE ORIGINS OF THE UCHIHA LIES WITH THE HYUGA CLAN

    SO in other WORDs... Kishi is self contradicting himself!!!!!!!!!!

    peace
    read my above post!!!!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth Assasin View Post
    read my above post!!!!!!
    the 462 manga never said that the eyes he gave to the eldest son was a sharingan it might just be the reningan/byakugan and as time passed it mutated to the byakugan and finally into sharingan.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by narutosharingan View Post
    the 462 manga never said that the eyes he gave to the eldest son was a sharingan it might just be the reningan/byakugan and as time passed it mutated to the byakugan and finally into sharingan.
    Good point.... BUt sleepy fans translations alawys messed up...ill wait for binktopia version.... tht would probably tell thins in a proper way!!!!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by skgb75 View Post
    yeh me 2, dis chap kinda confused me .........is da sharn a mutation of rinnegan or vise-versa or is da shar a mutation of byukugan and if so were da hell does all dat fit in????
    Yea it has me a little confused also i think what they are trying to get at is sharingan was passed down from rinnegan and over the years of diluting the uchiha bloodline the hyuga's clan came into being...
    I have even more questions that are more important such as why is madara singing like a bird ? why go into all this detail ...
    next why cannot sharingan become rinnegan? if it decended from it directly the ultimate EMS such be the most powerful eye rinnegan but that dosen't seem to be the case.
    So there are a few questions and alot more things don't make sence to me b/c of what madara is chatting
    Plz comment and respond to this to help me figure out what is going on ?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    Yea it has me a little confused also i think what they are trying to get at is sharingan was passed down from rinnegan and over the years of diluting the uchiha bloodline the hyuga's clan came into being...
    I have even more questions that are more important such as why is madara singing like a bird ? why go into all this detail ...
    next why cannot sharingan become rinnegan? if it decended from it directly the ultimate EMS such be the most powerful eye rinnegan but that dosen't seem to be the case.
    So there are a few questions and alot more things don't make sence to me b/c of what madara is chatting
    Plz comment and respond to this to help me figure out what is going on ?
    We still don't know that it directly came from rinnegan sice in the previous chapter it has been stated that the sharingan came from byakugan, and since byakugan and sharingan might be a mutated form of reningan so they can't return to their original form.
    thought please comment and correct me if i'm wrong:D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Stealth Assasin View Post
    I finally found it....

    Naruto 78 page 13 | One Manga

    READ THIS/.... it CLEARLY SAYS THT THE ORIGINS OF THE UCHIHA LIES WITH THE HYUGA CLAN

    SO in other WORDs... Kishi is self contradicting himself!!!!!!!!!!

    peace
    I think what was meant was that the Sage of Six Paths was the origin of the 3 Advanced Eye Technique. As the elder brother had children, and those children had their own offspring, the DNA for the eye techniques was mixed between parents. So in effect, the genetics for the eye techs were 'thinned down' and mixed with other genetic traits, eventually creating the Byakugan and Sharingan.

    There's still alot Kishi has to clear up, but this is the only way I can see an explanation to what Madara meant.

    EDIT: Other than that, the chapter was alright. It will be awesome seeing Naruto vs. Sasuke again. Their first battle sucked. x]
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by narutosharingan View Post
    We still don't know that it directly came from rinnegan sice in the previous chapter it has been stated that the sharingan came from byakugan, and since byakugan and sharingan might be a mutated form of reningan so they can't return to their original form.
    thought please comment and correct me if i'm wrong:D
    I think ur spot on!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SabutoUchiha View Post
    I think what was meant was that the Sage of Six Paths was the origin of the 3 Advanced Eye Technique. As the elder brother had children, and those children had their own offspring, the DNA for the eye techniques was mixed between parents. So in effect, the genetics for the eye techs were 'thinned down' and mixed with other genetic traits, eventually creating the Byakugan and Sharingan.

    There's still alot Kishi has to clear up, but this is the only way I can see an explanation to what Madara meant.

    EDIT: Other than that, the chapter was alright. It will be awesome seeing Naruto vs. Sasuke again. Their first battle sucked. x]
    I agree kishi should clear it up...lol..... otherwise ur explanation seems pretty rational!!!:P :D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    so i don't know if yall remember or not but naruto is not going to believe that because he was working his hole life to prove that "fate" does not happen and that you are always in control. he is not going to accept that and he will bring sasuke back or at very worst he will let sasuke kill him... thats what im thinking what do yall think?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    You know, if Madara's story is true(and most of it sounds like it could have actually happened) then Naruto and Sasuke's bond makes a little more sense to me. I thought it was weird that he was trying so hard for a friend(not saying friends aren't important just that there is a limit as to how far you will go for one that betrayed you) but, based on Madara's story it seems to me that Naruto and Sasuke are related. You would do much more for a relative than you would a friend because friends are easily replaced but, you can't replace your family. I'm saying this because the Senju and Uchiha both supposedly came from Rikodu Senin(sp?) so Naruto and Sasuke would be distantly related.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    I can't complain about this chapter. Sasuke is not even using half of his strength against Raikage, and I am sure Raikage is not either. The real battle has just began. If Sasuke wants to beat Raikage I think he should use mangekyou sharingan, otherwise he could not even dream of victory...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    Great manga chapter!
    but im getting confused about this uchiha being fated for hatred.
    why then was obito not full with hate and saved his friend from death taking it on his own, or itachi he wasnt full with hatred, he had uchiha blood but from what i read his ways where more that of the senju!
    I hope things get cleared up
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    the manga has been setting naruto up as a senju since before the time skip. this is why tsunades neclace didn't reject hime
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by narutosharingan View Post
    We still don't know that it directly came from rinnegan sice in the previous chapter it has been stated that the sharingan came from byakugan, and since byakugan and sharingan might be a mutated form of reningan so they can't return to their original form.
    thought please comment and correct me if i'm wrong:D
    i dunno man when i read the manga it looked like the oldest bro has sharingan directly from the 6 paths sage lol who knows ... and he did talk about the thinning bloodline so thats where the hyuga's can fit in see noone knew of this stroy so the sharingan coming from bykagan could have been the accepted theory that made the most sence at that time ...
    i'm not sure at all man i'm just trying to peice it all together like the rest of you :P
    thank you for commenting man
    it look like (462 pg 12) that it was the rinnegan that was past on to the eldest son not the sharingan like i thought so the sharingan is a mutation off of the rinnegan then ?
    but i always thought madara started the whole clan it still isn't making a whole lot of sence haha
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    if sasuke is sharingan and naruto senju, then it means that the frogs know something about it since sage mode depends on "senju-tsu". that is probably why the senju always wins against sharingan. they manage (opposite to sharingan) to gather the help of nature to fight, if naruto masters senju-tsu, then there will be nothing to stop him. that is why madara lost to the 1st hokage.

    what i dont understand, is why kishi failed to mentioned why the sharingans lose their eyesight the more they use it. it is confusing cause if they come from the same ancestor....naruto or anybody descendant from senju, should have problems using senju-tsu with time. so why only sharingan and not byakugan users?

    something else, if the 1st hokage was a senju (meaning he was able to use senju-tsu), why it is always that it is always connected with wood (yamato's case) and why yamato;having been infused with the 1st DNA does not use senju-tsu?

    am i correct guys?
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Loony_1 View Post
    the manga has been setting naruto up as a senju since before the time skip. this is why tsunades neclace didn't reject hime
    ... i'd like kishi to give a little more detail on Naruto's family someone needs to fill this little kid in. like how is he a senju ? his mom and dad are minato namikaze and kushina uzumaki? they weren't senju where they?
    ON a futher note i just thought if naruto beat pain and his rinnegan whitch is the grandaddy of all eye tech's and most powerful then hasn't he alrdy in a sence kicked the hell out of sasuke ? haha just food for thought
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 462 Discussion / 463 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    ... i'd like kishi to give a little more detail on Naruto's family someone needs to fill this little kid in. like how is he a senju ? his mom and dad are minato namikaze and kushina uzumaki? they weren't senju where they?
    ON a futher note i just thought if naruto beat pain and his rinnegan whitch is the grandaddy of all eye tech's and most powerful then hasn't he alrdy in a sence kicked the hell out of sasuke ? haha just food for thought
    Like said before in the manga.
    the rinnegan is only as strong as its user
     
         

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