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    Re: Sasuke has tsukuyomi; yet he dosen't need it for susano'o.

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    The same data book that said oro was sealed away forever? Because the databook contradicts the manga!
    Well, they aren't going to give away plot secrets in the Databook. Up until that point, he was sealed away forever. But, the plot progresses.

    Quote Originally Posted by blackstar9 View Post
    So your saying because his eye strained that proves it was tsukiyomi ? Sasuke eye strained when using inferno style does that mean its its not inferno style its really itachis ametarasu? Immediate no. During the fight with bee sasuke didn't use a name for the genjutsu he used.but that doesn't prove he has tsukiyomi
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    Show me the scan of this "eye strain" while "using inferno style". And I am looking at it in its most basic form. MS techs strain the eyes of the MS user. Simply having them activated, doesn't.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke has tsukuyomi; yet he dosen't need it for susano'o.

    Quote Originally Posted by Narutofan4203 View Post
    First of all, the mangekyou sharingan has 3 abilities.
    Amaterasu
    The first technique is amaterasu, the sun goddess. The flames of it are said to burn forever.

    Tsukuyomi
    The second technique, is tsukuyomi, the moon goddess. A powerful genjutsu.

    Susano'o
    The third power is Susano'o.

    Only people with two mangekyou eyes can activate susano'o.

    As confirmed by madara. Any two eyes can activate susano'o, as long as they have mangekyou. Their true power.
    So, the basic mangekyou sharingan has two abilities, then the special power.
    The special abilties, kamui that allows you to warp space and time, and Kotoamatsukami that allows you to control somebody without them knowing.
    Sasuke refers to susano'o as a third power. The left and right eye each hold a different ability. Kakashi's sucks in from a long range, obito from a short range. Following this logic, kotoamatsukami has another ability, though we will probably never know what it is.
    Last, why sasuke has tsukuyomi.

    Sasuke has all of itachi's eye abilities, plus EMS from his eyes. He dosen't need it for susano'o, he just needs both eyes.
    Edit: Sasuke's special ability is controlling his amaterasu via blaze release, Itachi's is his tsukuyomi mastery.
    Sasuke never had tsukuyomi.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke has tsukuyomi; yet he dosen't need it for susano'o.

    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyFlacko View Post
    Sasuke never had tsukuyomi.

    Oh...true.
     
         
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    Re: Sasuke has tsukuyomi; yet he dosen't need it for susano'o.

    Yes, you need Tsukuyomi & Amaterasu for Susano'o
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke has tsukuyomi; yet he dosen't need it for susano'o.

    thank you! ive been trying to explain to so many people that sasuke does in fact have tsukyomi, idk why people are so determined to deny that fact..
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke has tsukuyomi; yet he dosen't need it for susano'o.

    Quote Originally Posted by PrettyFlacko View Post
    Sasuke never had tsukuyomi.
    Ok, then perhaps you can explain the genjutsu placed on Bee that caused an MS Sasuke's eye to strain?

    Quote Originally Posted by Varrah View Post
    Oh...true.
    You still have failed to counter my arguments.

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    Yes, you need Tsukuyomi & Amaterasu for Susano'o
    Congrats, you, unlike many, can read the Databook.

    Quote Originally Posted by Draphsin View Post
    thank you! ive been trying to explain to so many people that sasuke does in fact have tsukyomi, idk why people are so determined to deny that fact..
    Yes.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke has tsukuyomi; yet he dosen't need it for susano'o.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thundercles View Post
    Ok, then perhaps you can explain the genjutsu placed on Bee that caused an MS Sasuke's eye to strain?



    You still have failed to counter my arguments.



    Congrats, you, unlike many, can read the Databook.



    Yes.

    You've failed to see the discrepancies involved...[1]
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke has tsukuyomi; yet he dosen't need it for susano'o.

    Quote Originally Posted by Varrah View Post
    You've failed to see the discrepancies involved...[1]
    What? The "way Bee fell down in the fight"? That is nonsense. Ok, Varrah, answer these questions:
    #1 Why would Sasuke have MS active to cast a simple genjutsu?
    #2 Why after casting the genjutsu in question, did Sasuke's eye (the one that caste the tech) immediately strain (just as Itachi's did when he caste Tsukuyomi)?
    #3 Can you truly give an example of an Uchiha who is the sole exception to the "Susano'o Req Rule"?
    #3a, If you can give an example of said Uchiha, please provide proof to support your claim. Scans would be nice.

    And please do not just give a 1 liner, vague answer that references a broad thread. Answer in specifics.
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke has tsukuyomi; yet he dosen't need it for susano'o.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thundercles View Post
    What? The "way Bee fell down in the fight"? That is nonsense. Ok, Varrah, answer these questions:
    #1 Why would Sasuke have MS active to cast a simple genjutsu?
    #2 Why after casting the genjutsu in question, did Sasuke's eye (the one that caste the tech) immediately strain (just as Itachi's did when he caste Tsukuyomi)?
    #3 Can you truly give an example of an Uchiha who is the sole exception to the "Susano'o Req Rule"?
    #3a, If you can give an example of said Uchiha, please provide proof to support your claim. Scans would be nice.

    And please do not just give a 1 liner, vague answer that references a broad thread. Answer in specifics.

    Firstly, this thread is lacking the sustenance needed for it. Secondly, I have answered these questions in Exiguity (I posted a response to your questions bar the second, so if you wish, continue the argument from there.)


    Scans.




     
         
    Last edited by Varrah; 12-28-2012 at 12:14 PM.

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    Re: Sasuke has tsukuyomi; yet he dosen't need it for susano'o.

    Quote Originally Posted by Varrah View Post
    Firstly, this thread is lacking the sustenance needed for it. Secondly, I have answered these questions in Exiguity (I posted a response to your questions bar the second, so if you wish, continue the argument from there.)



    Scans.




    Ok, this shows that Sasuke uses Blaze Release, HISspecial MS tech, ie, Kamui, KA, Itachi's Tsukuyomi, nothing more. We see that Obito casts Kamui with his right eye. He can also use that right eye to cast Tsukuyomi, per Road to Ninja AND seeing as he intends on acting as jinky and would need that tech to perform "Infinite Tsukuyomi".
     
         

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    Re: Sasuke has tsukuyomi; yet he dosen't need it for susano'o.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thundercles View Post
    Ok, this shows that Sasuke uses Blaze Release, HISspecial MS tech, ie, Kamui, KA, Itachi's Tsukuyomi, nothing more. We see that Obito casts Kamui with his right eye. He can also use that right eye to cast Tsukuyomi, per Road to Ninja AND seeing as he intends on acting as jinky and would need that tech to perform "Infinite Tsukuyomi".
    Your argument is weak thundercless. You have been proven wrong throughout this thread. Get over it and accept the fact. Saw
     
         

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