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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    How does Minato and Itachi beat Naruto ?
    If your going to make Madara and Nagato edo why don't you make every ninja edo.
    Edo Darui > Naruto
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by narutoblitz View Post
    EMS Sasuke can at least match Naruto, if not have the advantage outright due to willingness to kill, intellect, combat experience and being able to control Kurama. Itachi would own Naruto like a little b***h and Nagato DID win against Naruto. Kurama beat him while Naruto was off with daddy in inside-mental-area-land.

    Raikage matched BM Naruto speed and was able to kill Naruto if he wanted to. Sasuke even without EMS managed to take Raikage's arm. So yeah they're all good candidates to take down Naruto. Naruto's strength is not giving up, his guts and his stamina. He's really not powerful at all lol
    Are you serious?? God you post is the worst I've seen so far
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by narmeiter View Post
    Don't agree with a lot of choices.
    Edo madara, yes.
    But not others.
    Naruto in kurama mode is way stronger than edo nagato, itachi and minato.
    obito(maybe)
    Why did Naruto need Kakashi's help vs Obito then? Why did he need Edo Itachi to take down Nagato? Bee and Naruto were losing that fight badly.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

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    youre right
    Naruto>minato
    Naruto>itachi
    Naruto> sasuke
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by narut2 View Post
    Are you serious?? God you post is the worst I've seen so far
    it makes sense to me/ ur fandayism blinds u
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    naruto can beat itaichi as his ms techs would not be wise as they drain a lot of chakra and leave him vulnerable for attack
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Seriously though, take both Itachi and Minato off that list. They can't hit Naruto, let alone hit him.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Minato took down Obito on his own. Naruto failed with even injuring him or realizing what was going on. He needed Kakashi to break it down for him, and even with Kakashi and Guy he wasn't able to do much but break Obito's mask.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by narut2 View Post
    Naruto = sasuke
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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Obito, Nagato, Hashirama, Edo Madara thats all for me naruto is last in my top 5
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by uchihamad View Post
    Sarutobi sasuke
    Sasuke is not of the sarutobi clan. he is from the uchiha clan and is not stronger than naruto. especially after his control over the kyuubi chakra and sage jutsu.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoIndra View Post
    Minato isn't as strong as Naruto in a long shot, nor is Itachi as powerful. Itachi may have Totsuka blade and Yata mirror, but whether he's healthy or not he still has a very low stamina. He will only be able to hold his Susano'o so long and all Naruto will have to do is dodge until all of Itachi's muscles hurt from Susano'o side effects. A non Susano'o Itachi would just get multi-TBB or try some genjutsu which does not work on perfect jinchuriki's. Naruto's speed would be to quick for a sharingan to follow or for Itachi to react. How can Itachi possibly win? Try a amateratsu that would only cause chakra draining?
    genjutsus still work on perfect jinchuriki's. They can just break out of it but that has yet to be seen for Tsukuyomi, Itachi used it for 1 sec and put Kakashi in a coma like state.

    Itachi stated that Tsukuyomi can only be broken by a Sharingan user that shares the same blood as him. Kurama has easily been placed in a Genjutsu a couple of times.
     
         
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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by zubairseedat023 View Post
    Sasuke is not of the sarutobi clan. he is from the uchiha clan and is not stronger than naruto. especially after his control over the kyuubi chakra and sage jutsu.
    ur a noob so i wont toast ur a$$ right now/ leave this thread please
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by narutoblitz View Post
    Why did Naruto need Kakashi's help vs Obito then? Why did he need Edo Itachi to take down Nagato? Bee and Naruto were losing that fight badly.
    That's why i have said maybe in case of obito. He may be able to defeat naruto.
    besides, naruto in kurama mode hasn't gone in full tilt against obito.
    And against itachi and nagato, he was in biju chakra cloak mode. Not what he is fully capable of now.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by narutoblitz View Post
    Minato took down Obito on his own. Naruto failed with even injuring him or realizing what was going on. He needed Kakashi to break it down for him, and even with Kakashi and Guy he wasn't able to do much but break Obito's mask.
    Thats pretty flawed logic. That Obito that Minato was fighting did not have the power of the Gedo Mazo or the Rinnegan.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by narutoblitz View Post
    Minato took down Obito on his own. Naruto failed with even injuring him or realizing what was going on. He needed Kakashi to break it down for him, and even with Kakashi and Guy he wasn't able to do much but break Obito's mask.
    Minato took down Obito when Obito was at an extremely young age. Now, he has the rinnegan and much more experience, while back then he had just acquired his MS. Such an old reference, that is like saying popo>goku ss1 just because popo beat kid goku smh
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    hiashi is taking on juubi his chakra attacks are actually reflecting juubi tails...and juubi flicked tbb just saying
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

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    They clearly aren't equal.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by narutoblitz View Post
    EMS Sasuke can at least match Naruto, if not have the advantage outright due to willingness to kill, intellect, combat experience and being able to control Kurama. Itachi would own Naruto like a little b***h and Nagato DID win against Naruto. Kurama beat him while Naruto was off with daddy in inside-mental-area-land.

    Raikage matched BM Naruto speed and was able to kill Naruto if he wanted to. Sasuke even without EMS managed to take Raikage's arm. So yeah they're all good candidates to take down Naruto. Naruto's strength is not giving up, his guts and his stamina. He's really not powerful at all lol
    Raikage was outdodged by KCM Naruto's speed. What Naruto simply stated was speculation based on multiple hits. You cannot say Kurama or Itachi would've killed Naruto. That's is similar to saying Naruto would blasted Sasuke at VOTE if he aimed for the chest. You cannot confirm what hasn't happen.

    Type that when you go to Naruto's Abilities Section in Naruto.Wikia.Com.
    No disrespect, but that website contains unbiased based on what is written in manga. No hypothetical or biased statements like "He's really not that powerful at all lol" or "Kurama beat him" are allowed until it is CONFIRMED by Kishimoto. What you are stating is simply an opinion, not a fact. You're making it look as if what you said can be confirmed.

    That's why your "10 Myths" thread was invalidated. You stated claims as if they were facts that was confirmed in the manga.
     
         
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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    You shouldn't include the so6p there because the so6p>naruto universe
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

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    genjutsus still work on perfect jinchuriki's. They can just break out of it but that has yet to be seen for Tsukuyomi, Itachi used it for 1 sec and put Kakashi in a coma like state.

    Itachi stated that Tsukuyomi can only be broken by a Sharingan user that shares the same blood as him. Kurama has easily been placed in a Genjutsu a couple of times.
    Itachi used tsukoyomi for a few seconds not 1 second as there is no proof of the manga ever saying one second. Itachi stated Tsukoyomi can only be broken by another sharingan user, Bee stated that Genjutsu doesn't work on a perfect jinchuriki, and it makes sense that it wouldn't since Kurama would disrupt Naruto's chakra flow within a second. No one ever said Kurama can't be put in Genjutsu when he's roaming freely, but he is not, he's within Naruto. They can disturb each others chakra flows, so genjutsu has no use on either of them. It's a matter of choice now though, you can choose what Itachi said, or you can choose what Bee said, I will side with Bee as it's pretty logical, you can side with Itachi, it's a matter of opinion not facts now.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoIndra View Post
    Itachi used tsukoyomi for a few seconds not 1 second as there is no proof of the manga ever saying one second. Itachi stated Tsukoyomi can only be broken by another sharingan user, Bee stated that Genjutsu doesn't work on a perfect jinchuriki, and it makes sense that it wouldn't since Kurama would disrupt Naruto's chakra flow within a second. No one ever said Kurama can't be put in Genjutsu when he's roaming freely, but he is not, he's within Naruto. They can disturb each others chakra flows, so genjutsu has no use on either of them. It's a matter of choice now though, you can choose what Itachi said, or you can choose what Bee said, I will side with Bee as it's pretty logical, you can side with Itachi, it's a matter of opinion not facts now.
    You're right my bad it was longer than 1 second. It has been very long time since I read the chapter. Itachi's Tsukoyomi can freely manipulate time but it hasn't been shown how long but a few seconds is possibly enough time to damage someone before a Tailed beast to break control assuming if they can if Tsukoyomi doesn't exactly follow genjutsu logic. Its also very dependent on how fast they can break the jutsu
     
         
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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow James View Post
    You're right my bad it was longer than 1 second. It has been very long time since I read the chapter. Itachi's Tsukoyomi can freely manipulate time but it hasn't been shown how long but a few seconds is possibly enough time to damage someone before a Tailed beast to break control assuming if they can if Tsukoyomi doesn't exactly follow genjutsu logic. Its also very dependent on how fast they can break the jutsu
    All genjutsu follows genjutsu logic, there is no genjutsu that is exclusive. Naruto would suffer from side effects but since kakashi has such a low stamina he was bound to be in a comma state, Naruto's quick recovery speeds and endurance have to be some advantage towards it. It lasts 72 hours say tsukoyomi lasts 3 seconds in the real world, Genjutsu takes about 3 seconds to start effect as the user gains control of the chakra in his opponents brain; controlling what the opponent will see. Kurama would notice this and most likely block the genjutsu within .5 seconds of the start of the tsukoyomi as he would have noticed the inconsistent changes in Naruto's brain during the three seconds it takes to activate. 4/.5=8 72/8=9 hours, Naruto will be under Tsukoyomi for 9 hours, he will be severly injured, but he would still have some chance. Yet this is all assumptions, how do we know whether Naruto is going to be put under tsukoyomi, as he has already shown to know that he shouldn't look at Itachi's eyes in the encounter where he accidently looked at Itachi's fingers. How do we know Naruto in BM wouldn't be the first to attack with a multiple TBB winning the fight.. The finger genjutsu would have been blocked by Kurama as it doesn't manipulate time. If tsukoyomi misses; Itachi wastes a lot of chakra, Naruto has a near unlimited amount of chakra.

    I don't know but I see Naruto winning the fight in Sage Mode. Naruto can look at his feet and fight, and senses all of Itachi's movements Frog Fu while looking at Itachi's feet when Itachi is using taijutsu and watching all Naruto's movements; Naruto wins due to speed, power, range, and senses. He can put 15 clones to surround him blocking amateratsu, and put 4 clones on the floor to gain senjutsu for himself. Naruto can sense the movements and punch from a distance, something Itachi has no Idea about. He can summon Gamabunta, Gamaken, and Gamakiri to help in the fight. Shima and Fukasaku would also be with Naruto, and could use wind and fire release techniques from a range as well as use sound genjutsu which would completely paralyze Itachi in or out of the Susano'o. One Rasen Shuriken and Itachi loses, one Giant Rasengan barrage on Itachi's Susasno'o from both sides and the susano'o breaks as Yata mirror doesn't block that big of a radius. Itachi can't stay long in a Complete Susano'o due to his low stamina anyways.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Get u r facts right Firstly sasuke may be powerful but Naruto stood toe-to-toe with edo madara so its like EMS sasuke may be match but cannot win against naruto, as for Itachi he is bad ass and amazing when it comes to strategy he can be on par wid madara, minato so he can own naruto. As for raikage naruto didn't fight him seriously if he had than naruto might have defeated him for sure and not to mention the BM and KM. Also Naruto defeated nagato in Sage mode Kyubbi went wild so it was not the kyubbi.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by narutoblitz View Post
    So obviously S06P, Hashirama, Minato, Itachi, Edo Nagato, Edo Madara and Obito are probably all way stronger than Naruto. Can you guys think of anyone else?
    SO6P said to the tail best that one will come after Him that would show them what true power is. That would be Naruto Uzumaki,not any of your for mention individuals.
     
         

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