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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

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    Minato took down Obito on his own. Naruto failed with even injuring him or realizing what was going on. He needed Kakashi to break it down for him, and even with Kakashi and Guy he wasn't able to do much but break Obito's mask.
    Minato took down Obito when Obito was at an extremely young age. Now, he has the rinnegan and much more experience, while back then he had just acquired his MS. Such an old reference, that is like saying popo>goku ss1 just because popo beat kid goku smh
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    hiashi is taking on juubi his chakra attacks are actually reflecting juubi tails...and juubi flicked tbb just saying
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

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    They clearly aren't equal.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by narutoblitz View Post
    EMS Sasuke can at least match Naruto, if not have the advantage outright due to willingness to kill, intellect, combat experience and being able to control Kurama. Itachi would own Naruto like a little b***h and Nagato DID win against Naruto. Kurama beat him while Naruto was off with daddy in inside-mental-area-land.

    Raikage matched BM Naruto speed and was able to kill Naruto if he wanted to. Sasuke even without EMS managed to take Raikage's arm. So yeah they're all good candidates to take down Naruto. Naruto's strength is not giving up, his guts and his stamina. He's really not powerful at all lol
    Raikage was outdodged by KCM Naruto's speed. What Naruto simply stated was speculation based on multiple hits. You cannot say Kurama or Itachi would've killed Naruto. That's is similar to saying Naruto would blasted Sasuke at VOTE if he aimed for the chest. You cannot confirm what hasn't happen.

    Type that when you go to Naruto's Abilities Section in Naruto.Wikia.Com.
    No disrespect, but that website contains unbiased based on what is written in manga. No hypothetical or biased statements like "He's really not that powerful at all lol" or "Kurama beat him" are allowed until it is CONFIRMED by Kishimoto. What you are stating is simply an opinion, not a fact. You're making it look as if what you said can be confirmed.

    That's why your "10 Myths" thread was invalidated. You stated claims as if they were facts that was confirmed in the manga.
     
         
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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    You shouldn't include the so6p there because the so6p>naruto universe
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

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    genjutsus still work on perfect jinchuriki's. They can just break out of it but that has yet to be seen for Tsukuyomi, Itachi used it for 1 sec and put Kakashi in a coma like state.

    Itachi stated that Tsukuyomi can only be broken by a Sharingan user that shares the same blood as him. Kurama has easily been placed in a Genjutsu a couple of times.
    Itachi used tsukoyomi for a few seconds not 1 second as there is no proof of the manga ever saying one second. Itachi stated Tsukoyomi can only be broken by another sharingan user, Bee stated that Genjutsu doesn't work on a perfect jinchuriki, and it makes sense that it wouldn't since Kurama would disrupt Naruto's chakra flow within a second. No one ever said Kurama can't be put in Genjutsu when he's roaming freely, but he is not, he's within Naruto. They can disturb each others chakra flows, so genjutsu has no use on either of them. It's a matter of choice now though, you can choose what Itachi said, or you can choose what Bee said, I will side with Bee as it's pretty logical, you can side with Itachi, it's a matter of opinion not facts now.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoIndra View Post
    Itachi used tsukoyomi for a few seconds not 1 second as there is no proof of the manga ever saying one second. Itachi stated Tsukoyomi can only be broken by another sharingan user, Bee stated that Genjutsu doesn't work on a perfect jinchuriki, and it makes sense that it wouldn't since Kurama would disrupt Naruto's chakra flow within a second. No one ever said Kurama can't be put in Genjutsu when he's roaming freely, but he is not, he's within Naruto. They can disturb each others chakra flows, so genjutsu has no use on either of them. It's a matter of choice now though, you can choose what Itachi said, or you can choose what Bee said, I will side with Bee as it's pretty logical, you can side with Itachi, it's a matter of opinion not facts now.
    You're right my bad it was longer than 1 second. It has been very long time since I read the chapter. Itachi's Tsukoyomi can freely manipulate time but it hasn't been shown how long but a few seconds is possibly enough time to damage someone before a Tailed beast to break control assuming if they can if Tsukoyomi doesn't exactly follow genjutsu logic. Its also very dependent on how fast they can break the jutsu
     
         
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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow James View Post
    You're right my bad it was longer than 1 second. It has been very long time since I read the chapter. Itachi's Tsukoyomi can freely manipulate time but it hasn't been shown how long but a few seconds is possibly enough time to damage someone before a Tailed beast to break control assuming if they can if Tsukoyomi doesn't exactly follow genjutsu logic. Its also very dependent on how fast they can break the jutsu
    All genjutsu follows genjutsu logic, there is no genjutsu that is exclusive. Naruto would suffer from side effects but since kakashi has such a low stamina he was bound to be in a comma state, Naruto's quick recovery speeds and endurance have to be some advantage towards it. It lasts 72 hours say tsukoyomi lasts 3 seconds in the real world, Genjutsu takes about 3 seconds to start effect as the user gains control of the chakra in his opponents brain; controlling what the opponent will see. Kurama would notice this and most likely block the genjutsu within .5 seconds of the start of the tsukoyomi as he would have noticed the inconsistent changes in Naruto's brain during the three seconds it takes to activate. 4/.5=8 72/8=9 hours, Naruto will be under Tsukoyomi for 9 hours, he will be severly injured, but he would still have some chance. Yet this is all assumptions, how do we know whether Naruto is going to be put under tsukoyomi, as he has already shown to know that he shouldn't look at Itachi's eyes in the encounter where he accidently looked at Itachi's fingers. How do we know Naruto in BM wouldn't be the first to attack with a multiple TBB winning the fight.. The finger genjutsu would have been blocked by Kurama as it doesn't manipulate time. If tsukoyomi misses; Itachi wastes a lot of chakra, Naruto has a near unlimited amount of chakra.

    I don't know but I see Naruto winning the fight in Sage Mode. Naruto can look at his feet and fight, and senses all of Itachi's movements Frog Fu while looking at Itachi's feet when Itachi is using taijutsu and watching all Naruto's movements; Naruto wins due to speed, power, range, and senses. He can put 15 clones to surround him blocking amateratsu, and put 4 clones on the floor to gain senjutsu for himself. Naruto can sense the movements and punch from a distance, something Itachi has no Idea about. He can summon Gamabunta, Gamaken, and Gamakiri to help in the fight. Shima and Fukasaku would also be with Naruto, and could use wind and fire release techniques from a range as well as use sound genjutsu which would completely paralyze Itachi in or out of the Susano'o. One Rasen Shuriken and Itachi loses, one Giant Rasengan barrage on Itachi's Susasno'o from both sides and the susano'o breaks as Yata mirror doesn't block that big of a radius. Itachi can't stay long in a Complete Susano'o due to his low stamina anyways.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Get u r facts right Firstly sasuke may be powerful but Naruto stood toe-to-toe with edo madara so its like EMS sasuke may be match but cannot win against naruto, as for Itachi he is bad ass and amazing when it comes to strategy he can be on par wid madara, minato so he can own naruto. As for raikage naruto didn't fight him seriously if he had than naruto might have defeated him for sure and not to mention the BM and KM. Also Naruto defeated nagato in Sage mode Kyubbi went wild so it was not the kyubbi.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by narutoblitz View Post
    So obviously S06P, Hashirama, Minato, Itachi, Edo Nagato, Edo Madara and Obito are probably all way stronger than Naruto. Can you guys think of anyone else?
    SO6P said to the tail best that one will come after Him that would show them what true power is. That would be Naruto Uzumaki,not any of your for mention individuals.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

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    tell'em
    Tell' em what? That you guys re just b**ching about like fodder fankids? Huh?
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by swapnil5843 View Post
    Get u r facts right Firstly sasuke may be powerful but Naruto stood toe-to-toe with edo madara so its like EMS sasuke may be match but cannot win against naruto, as for Itachi he is bad ass and amazing when it comes to strategy he can be on par wid madara, minato so he can own naruto. As for raikage naruto didn't fight him seriously if he had than naruto might have defeated him for sure and not to mention the BM and KM. Also Naruto defeated nagato in Sage mode Kyubbi went wild so it was not the kyubbi.
    Actually bro Alive itachi would be a dead man against naruto. Naruto can still stump edo itachi but ofcourse itachi is an edo he won't die. just because he can't die without a seal doesn't mean he is greater than naruto.
     
         
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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    naruto can beat obito if not for kamui thats why he hasnt already, madara was just bsing he knows the only thing that can give naruto a match is rinnegan and PS but he's a show off
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

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    3rd hokage, kakashi, raikage,
    Bullshit. How can Kakashi surpass Naruto? Raikage? Have you seen the match? 3rd Hokage? All bullshits
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    minato and itachi aren't stronger than naruto, u crazy man.

    Naruto was fighting 7 tailed beast while minato couldn't handle one.

    Itachi's sassano would get owned, bjuudama is just too powerful for his sassano. U must have forgot how massive the explosions were when the bjuudama from naruto were exploding.


    Nagato is pretty good against nagato, obito well if he had some openings mainly because naruto was dealing with 7 tailed beasts. So I wouldn't rank obtio that highly anymore. Once I found out tobi was obitio I knew we wouldn't see much powers from tobi anymore.


    I still would like to see edo madara vs naruto, I don't think it will be straight forward fight.


    I think hasihrama,3rd raikage and muu are ridiculous shinobi.
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Madara stopped TBB with one hand and forced Naruto back with half his strength. Anyone arguing that Edo Madara can be defeated by Naruto is simply a fanboy, and a naive one at that. Even without the Juubi, Madara can solo the entire alliance and probably kill Bee in one move.

    We have to add Madara to the ridiculously overpowered list. He could lock Kyuubi in genjutsu and have it kill Naruto LOL
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Minato (Yellow Flash,4th Hogake,Naruto's Father)
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by narutoblitz View Post
    Madara stopped TBB with one hand and forced Naruto back with half his strength. Anyone arguing that Edo Madara can be defeated by Naruto is simply a fanboy, and a naive one at that. Even without the Juubi, Madara can solo the entire alliance and probably kill Bee in one move.

    We have to add Madara to the ridiculously overpowered list. He could lock Kyuubi in genjutsu and have it kill Naruto LOL
    He used a War Fan to do that. He deflected using "Uchihagaeshi"

     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Minato was faster than Raikage. Even in Kyuubi mode Naruto can barely keep up with him. Minato didn't need 9 tails chakra to beat Obito like a little baby/woman murdering b**h Minato owned the 9 tails and solo'd Raikage/Bee. He spared Bee on a whim.

    Minato > Naruto. Hands down the best post I've seen this week. The honesty in it is something Uzumaki fanboys need to accept. Naruto is not the stronger shinobi. S06P created the moon. Madara summons comets. Naruto struggles with basic hand seals.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlastIt View Post
    He used a War Fan to do that. He deflected using "Uchihagaeshi"
    Point stands. Edo Madara owned Naruto's main attack in its strongest form. It's lore that current Kyuubi Naruto cannot touch Madara, let alone seal him, break PS or really stop him at all lol. He stopped Naruto in a flashy way instead of using Preta path to say "Shaddup kid, the adults is talking".
     
         

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    Re: Shinobi stronger than Naruto

    Quote Originally Posted by narutoblitz View Post
    Minato was faster than Raikage. Even in Kyuubi mode Naruto can barely keep up with him. Minato didn't need 9 tails chakra to beat Obito like a little baby/woman murdering b**h Minato owned the 9 tails and solo'd Raikage/Bee. He spared Bee on a whim.

    Minato > Naruto. Hands down the best post I've seen this week. The honesty in it is something Uzumaki fanboys need to accept. Naruto is not the stronger shinobi. S06P created the moon. Madara summons comets. Naruto struggles with basic hand seals.

    Point stands. Edo Madara owned Naruto's main attack in its strongest form. It's lore that current Kyuubi Naruto cannot touch Madara, let alone seal him, break PS or really stop him at all lol. He stopped Naruto in a flashy way instead of using Preta path to say "Shaddup kid, the adults is talking".
    Who said he the strongest? The problem is that you are creating false claims that seems to be true. I know there are stronger shinobis than Naruto using your list as an example.
    However, you exaggerated your claims that can be proven wrong by the manga itself. If they were really true, why was your "10 Myths about Naruto" thread invalidated then? Just asking.
     
         

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