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why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
Please Read before posting
I think the PS is an MS tech, not an EMS tech and here's why.
Susanoo carries many forms and this could just be the final form that only Madara has mastered so far.
Susanoo already has forms; rib cage, skeletal, full, completed, and perfect
With perfect Susanoo, Madara just stabilized the chakra of the completed Susanoo form.....
Both Sasuke and Itachi have the completed Susanoo already with their MS.
Madara's
Sasuke's...look at how the arms resemble Madara's full form and the cloak.
Itachi has the same unstable fiery chakra and cloak form
The Susanoo tech awakens with the MS, not EMS; and having the Susanoo is a rarity in itself. So imagine how rare a PS would be then? I don't think it's an EMS tech since Itachi mentioned that the EMS "gives birth to a completely new tech" and the PS is just an improved version of susanoo.
And if Susanoo is indeed rare, then PS is like the rarest pokemon out there. Getting both would then be like hitting a jackpot.
I somewhat compare the Perfect Susanoo to Naruto's rasengan progression where he had to struggle to maintain control of his chakra and also use clones to help stabilize it for a rasengan.
It's like saying Naruto's chakra mode is MS and bijuu mode is EMS.....but it's not, it's just the mastery over the bijuu, same thing with Susanoo.
One last note. Madara fought Hashirama countless times with just the MS and Hashirama can easily break through a regular susanoo. If he didn't have PS, how would he have survived each time?
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Last edited by Lightbringer; 12-31-2012 at 05:58 PM.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
It is. Madara stated no one that has seen it survived until then. That implies he used it when he was in his prime. Heck, it might even be an MS technique. I mean, seriously :shrug:
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Kages
 It is. Madara stated no one that has seen it survived until then. That implies he used it when he was in his prime. Heck, it might even be an MS technique. I mean, seriously :shrug:
That's what I mean, Susanoo is an MS tech and PS is not a completely new tech for an EMS from what Itachi stated. It's like saying chakra mode is MS and bijuu mode is EMS.....it's just the mastery over the bijuu, same thing with Susanoo.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Lightbringer
That's what I mean, Susanoo is an MS tech and PS is not a completely new tech for an EMS from what Itachi stated. It's like saying chakra mode is MS and bijuu mode is EMS.....it's just the mastery over the bijuu, same thing with Susanoo.
Hehe sorry too long for me to read :D
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Kages
Hehe sorry too long for me to read :D
Then why did you reply if you didn't take the time to read my points?
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Lightbringer
Then why did you reply if you didn't take the time to read my points?
The title threw me off
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Kages
 It is. Madara stated no one that has seen it survived until then. That implies he used it when he was in his prime. Heck, it might even be an MS technique. I mean, seriously :shrug:
This x10
PS could be an EMS tech or even an MS tech, all we know is madara used PS before he unlocked the rinnegan, it might not be the new tech but it does come with sharingan
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Last edited by Draphsin; 12-29-2012 at 11:25 PM.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Draphsin
This x10
How many people are going to come in here w/o reading the OP? Are you attention spans that low that you can't even read a few short paragraphs?
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by KidGamer65
 How many people are going to come in here w/o reading the OP? Are you attention spans that low that you can't even read a few short paragraphs?
Why the f**** would i post on a thread i didnt read? i obv read it and PS is an EMS tech..madara used it before he unlocked the rinnegan and this "new technique" either hasn'e been shown or it is PS -__-
If madara had PS with only MS he would go blind instantly..
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Last edited by Draphsin; 12-29-2012 at 11:31 PM.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Draphsin
Why the f**** would i post on a thread i didnt read? i obv read it and PS is an EMS tech..madara used it before he unlocked the rinnegan and this "new technique" either hasn'e been shown or it is PS -__-
if madara had PS with EMS he would go blind instantly..
Then you obviously didn't comprehend what the OP was saying..
He is saying that it isn't a technique that you just automatically get with EMS, you need to awaken it yourself. EMS may play apart in getting it but its not automatically granted to you like the MS techs are.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Draphsin
Why the f**** would i post on a thread i didnt read? i obv read it and PS is an EMS tech..madara used it before he unlocked the rinnegan and this "new technique" either hasn'e been shown or it is PS -__-
If madara had PS with only MS he would go blind instantly..
and How do you know he'd go blind instantly from PS? Kakashi sucked up Bee with kamui and used it a whole lot without going fully blind yet, and he has said he was going blind in the battle with Itachi when he first showed his MS to Itachi.
Itachi also says EMS awakens "a completely new tech"......perfect Susanoo isn't "completely" new. It's just an advanced form.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
I completely agree with OP. I've been saying the same thing for quite a while, Susanoo has many forms and its stabilized form is PS, all other forms are fodder/ pre-stages and likely that all forms are usable via MS. If anything one wouldn't be able to use PS with MS alone only because of the strain on the users body that apparently subsides after EMS is obtained.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Kages
 It is. Madara stated no one that has seen it survived until then. That implies he used it when he was in his prime. Heck, it might even be an MS technique. I mean, seriously :shrug:
i agree with this man here. with everything we have seen recently everything is in the air
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
Agreed...the Perfect Susanoo is just a susanoo that has been evolved thanks to the EMS...it was said the user unlocks a "new Technique" and Susanoo is already the 3rd power of the MS.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
OMG Re-Read the Manga, Madara awakened in AFTER awakening the RINNEGAN
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by shubzy123
OMG Re-Read the Manga, Madara awakened in AFTER awakening the RINNEGAN
OMG Re-Read the manga No he didn't! He awakened his rinnegan when he was old and he said anyone who has seen it hasn't survived, meaning he used it on others before and that he didn't use it on Onoki because he was holding back!
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by Anonymous Kid
cuz it is
 Originally Posted by Kages
 It is. Madara stated no one that has seen it survived until then. That implies he used it when he was in his prime. Heck, it might even be an MS technique. I mean, seriously :shrug:
 Originally Posted by shubzy123
OMG Re-Read the Manga, Madara awakened in AFTER awakening the RINNEGAN
All you people clearly didn't read the OP...he is saying that it isn't a new technique, it is just a higher form of Susanoo.
OT: I agree, people believing it was a different tech from the normal Susanoo in the first place is what made some think that it came from Rinnegan.
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Last edited by KidGamer65; 12-29-2012 at 11:17 PM.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by KidGamer65
 All you people clearly didn't read the OP...he is saying that it isn't a new technique, it is just a higher form of Susanoo.
OT: I agree, people believing it was a different tech from the normal Susanoo in the first place is what made some think that it came from Rinnegan.
Thank You, at least someone read it!
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
the OP is retarded
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by SasukeUchiha910
the OP is retarded 
How's that exactly?
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by SAmIDeXtEr
I read it and guess what?...........I fu.cKing know this sh.IT already..  :P ..(It's the ingorant brat's that don't know) WTF and
why the fu.cK did you have to make a thread about stuff that seems pretty obvious....
ARE YOU RETARDED :T__T:.....:flaw:
so you're agreeing that PS is an MS move and not an EMS move?
Most people think it's either an EMS move or Rinnegan, so that's why I made this thread.....if it was so obvious there wouldn't be so much debate over this matter
:flaw:
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by KidGamer65
 All you people clearly didn't read the OP...he is saying that it isn't a new technique, it is just a higher form of Susanoo.
OT: I agree, people believing it was a different tech from the normal Susanoo in the first place is what made some think that it came from Rinnegan.
True...why else would Itachi say "the user unlocks a new Technique" if it was Perfect Susanoo?...he could have just said "the user unlocks a Perfect form of Susanoo" since he also had a Susanoo.
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Last edited by FTG V2; 12-29-2012 at 11:21 PM.
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Re: why do people think PS is an EMS tech?
 Originally Posted by SasukeUchiha910
the OP is retarded 
Did you read the OP, please tell me you read it otherwise you will look pretty foolish.
 Originally Posted by FTG V2
True...why else would Itachi say "the user unlocks a new Technique" if it was Perfect Susanoo...he could have just said "the user unlocks a perfect form of Susanoo" since he also had a Susanoo.
Exactly.
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