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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    Kisame didn't need convincing. And it's true that Itachi wanted to avoid fighting Jiraiya because of his love for Konoha. But he was talking about the Kyūbi when he made that infamous statement. All he said about Jiraiya was that 'even the greatest of heroes have their weaknesses' or something along those lines.
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chibakuu Tensei View Post
    he was obviously lying loool he alone would be too much for jman much less kisame
    J-Man > Itachi.

     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    he's a professional liar
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    Kisame didn't need convincing. And it's true that Itachi wanted to avoid fighting Jiraiya because of his love for Konoha. But he was talking about the Kyūbi when he made that infamous statement. All he said about Jiraiya was that 'even the greatest of heroes have their weaknesses' or something along those lines.
    So Itachi was worried about a almost completely sealed/suppressed kyuubi when the man standing next to him is a perfect match for fighting jinchuuriki and can even go Toe to Toe with a perfect jinchuuriki?.

    Itachi or kisame had zero reasons to worry about the kyuubi.
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    So Itachi was worried about a almost completely sealed/suppressed kyuubi when the man standing next to him is a perfect match for fighting jinchuuriki and can even go Toe to Toe with a perfect jinchuuriki?.

    Itachi or kisame had zero reasons to worry about the kyuubi.

    Because he is loyal to Konoha. He didn't want to have to harm or capture Naruto. He was lying. I'm merely telling you that he was talking about Naruto. If you read from right to left it becomes obvious that Jiraiya was not the initial subject of the conversation.

     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    Let's look at the stats: in the official handbook Jiraiya had a total stats of 35.5 while Itachi also had 35.5 so they tie in terms of overall power.
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    How does itachi turning out to be a good guy correlate to him being "obviously" more powerful then jiraiya ? Your logic is completely retarded.
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    nah itachi and kisame were afraid of nardo, i mean who can handle a 12 year old kid
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by celebrei View Post
    Let's look at the stats: in the official handbook Jiraiya had a total stats of 35.5 while Itachi also had 35.5 so they tie in terms of overall power.
    thank you for pointing this out god forbid if people who make threads like this can take the time to google jiraiya /:
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    Maybe he was...maybe he wasn't...the world will never know(unless it's stated in the anime/manga or by Kishimoto)
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by megaamine View Post
    he's a professional liar
    this too
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    Because he is loyal to Konoha. He didn't want to have to harm or capture Naruto. He was lying. I'm merely telling you that he was talking about Naruto. If you read from right to left it becomes obvious that Jiraiya was not the initial subject of the conversation.

    Kisame himself has zero reasons to fear it though. He isn't stupid, He wouldn't say someone is simply out of his league because itachi said so or Implies it

    Kisame already dealt with naruto and got rid of the kyuubi problem


    So why they would Fear it is beyond me, While kisame was never part of the leaf, i'm sure he was informed about the sannin/It's bijuu and it's jinchuuriki to a degree.
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    Itachi didn't get the name solo king for nothing
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by November Nolove View Post
    Itachi didn't get the name solo king for nothing
    where was it mentioned in the manga .... hw abt NOWHERE ....... its just a pathetic title added to his name buy his annoying fanboys :sy:

    itachi is NOT beating Jman

    if anything Jman >= Itachi
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    when jiraya magically finds the speed in base to dodge amaterasu, this question can be asked
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    Kisame himself has zero reasons to fear it though. He isn't stupid, He wouldn't say someone is simply out of his league because itachi said so or Implies it

    Kisame already dealt with naruto and got rid of the kyuubi problem


    So why they would Fear it is beyond me, While kisame was never part of the leaf, i'm sure he was informed about the sannin/It's bijuu and it's jinchuuriki to a degree.
    Kisame didn't fear it because of something Itachi said - he was the one who started the conversation. He only stated that he wasn't sure if he could take it on. Not that he would lose. Just that there was doubt in his mind with regards to how successful he would be. In their actual meeting, Naruto released only a small amount of Kurama's chakra. He didn't undergo any transformations, and even then, Kisame found the chakra terrifying [1] and that preventing the Kyūbi's power from being used would be removing a problem/trouble [2]. The initial scan was clear. Kisame wasn't sure if he could take it on. Itachi overexaggerated in order to try and completely put Kisame off. Kisame was happy to have found the host in the first place and then goes on to talk about the babysitter, Jiraiya.
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    The answer is very simple.Yes itachi lied to sasuke how does that correlate to this situation ?
    It doesn't stop being but hurt and except what kishi has written.



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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    Quote Originally Posted by Owarij View Post
    when jiraya magically finds the speed in base to dodge amaterasu, this question can be asked
    Because the entire match depends on him dodging amaterasu ? Your logic so undeniable lol
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    I think he just didn't feel like wasting time, but I agree with him, whether or not it was a lie.
     
         

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    Re: Was itachi lying?

    id say it is somewhat true as kisame knows itachis techs not sure if he knew about susanoo but he knew about tsykiomi and amaterasu so i doubt kisame would be fooled that easy by itachis lie
     
         

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