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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto The Coming Hokage View Post
    Wrong.

    Sm naruto>Ms sasuke.
    Bm Naruto>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>EMS sasuke
    Kcm naruto> Ems sasuke

    The difference in BM and KCM is drastic.
    The increase in everything is huge.
    The power of the ninetails beside him is even stronger than perfect susano'o.
    sasuke does not have perfect susano'o.
    even if he did, the ninetails is still stronger.
    What do you mean taijutsu with susano'o?
    first naruto can sense chakra around him in sage mode, his speed is INCREDIBLY FAST
    in sage mode and his power too.
    Three Giant toads , Gamabunta and the other two can easily stop sasuke's susano'o.
    Naruto in Sm mode owns sasuke's taijutsu. Sm mode isn't weak, KCM is fast and strong.
    Bm mode is overkill.




    I beg to differ.
    ems sasuke=BM naruto
    ems sasuke>kcm naruto
    ems sasuke>>sm naruto

    i guess you have your selective reading goggles glued to your head because naruto didnt make that huge tbb by himself. bee helped him. narutards making arguments like this is quite annoying. you people try and use team feats and act like naruto did it by himself. its quite ridiculous.

    the kyuubi isnt>perfect susano. perfect susano is around incomplete juubi height and the hachibi who is the same size as the kyuubi can fit in its mouth.
     
         

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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by 9tailsJinchuuriki View Post
    Actually, the one on the right kinda looks like a frog.. But I could be wrong. I think if Sasuke gets PS then they will be equal. Also, Sasuke used CM from the start of their fight at the valley of the end. He went CM 2 when he fought 1 tail Naruto. With Normal 2 tomoe, he wouldn't of been that strong.
    you've got a point, so I'll give u + rep
    Well maybe, i'm more inclined to it having a beak because its pointy and not rounded.

    Actually Sasuke only went into curse mark for a short while when he went to stab Naruto with Chidori before that it was just 2 tomoe.

    Thanks.
     
         

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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    Yet again: currently Sasuke is much weaker than Naruto, but he has enough potential to match him with his EMS, unless Naruto will get some new power up.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSages456 View Post
    the kyuubi isnt>perfect susano. perfect susano is around incomplete juubi height and the hachibi who is the same size as the kyuubi can fit in its mouth.
    Baseless assumptions. Why? Becuase Kishimoto is inconsitent when it comes to size of various things.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-139-16/...apter-134.html -> Gamabunta in chapter 134
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-436-5/n...apter-431.html -> Pains rhino in chapter 431
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-436-16/...apter-431.html -> Gamabunta = rhino in size.
    Needless to say, Gamabunta from chapter 134 seems much, much bigger than Gamabunta from chapter 431. We wont know it PS is really bigger than Narutos Bijuu form until we see them on the same panel. Considering that Madara said PS is comparable to Bijuus power it shouldnt be bigger at all.
     
         
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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turson View Post
    Yet again: currently Sasuke is much weaker than Naruto, but he has enough enough potential to match him with his EMS, unless Naruto will get some new power up.

    Baseless assumptions. Why? Becuase Kishimoto is inconsitent when it comes to size of various things.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-139-16/...apter-134.html -> Gamabunta in chapter 134
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-436-5/n...apter-431.html -> Pains rhino in chapter 431
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-436-16/...apter-431.html -> Gamabunta = rhino in size.
    Needless to say, Gamabunta from chapter 134 seems much, much bigger than Gamabunta from chapter 431. We wont know it PS is really bigger than Narutos Bijuu form until we see them on the same panel. Considering that Madara said PS is comparable to Bijuus power it shouldnt be bigger at all.
    your opinion doesnt matter. incomplete juubi is consistently mountain height and perfect susano is consistently mountain height therefore their sizes are comparable. get over it. PS squashes kyuubi like a bug.
     
         

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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSages456 View Post
    your opinion doesnt matter. incomplete juubi is consistently mountain height and perfect susano is consistently mountain height therefore their sizes are comparable. get over it. PS squashes kyuubi like a bug.
    Its not even an opinion, its a fact that Kishimoto is inconsistent when it comes to size, and Gamabunta is great example. If PS was that powerful, then Madara wouldnt even bother to tame and use Kurama against Hashirama. Simple logic, nothing more.
     
         

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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Turson View Post
    Its not even an opinion, its a fact that Kishimoto is inconsistent when it comes to size, and Gamabunta is great example. If PS was that powerful, then Madara wouldnt even bother to tame and use Kurama against Hashirama. Simple logic, nothing more.
    stop giving me your opinion. tsunade was dumbfounded by the size of PS and she has seen all the boss summons which are biju size. why wouldnt madara want more firepower? you make zero sense. you are in denial. incomplete juubi and PS are consistently mountain size. dont talk to me unless you have a scan which shows them being 2 story building size like you are claiming.
     
         

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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    I believe they are on equal footing as Naruto's strongest attacks leave him vulnerable thanks to his prep time. This opening can easily be exploited to damage his cloak, and once the 8 minutes time is up, Naruto dies in the coming second. In base form, Naruto is nothing before EMS Sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSages456 View Post
    stop giving me your opinion.
    Like I said, Kishi is incosistent when it comes to size of various things, and its not an opinion, its a fact which I proved with manga.
    why wouldnt madara want more firepower?
    Taming much lesser power wouldnt grant him more firepower at all, since Madara wasnt able to use Kurama and PS at the same time. It was said in manga that Madara could tame Kyuubi only for short spans of time, which means it had to be taxing as hell for him. Moreover, he most probably knew beforehand that Hashirama could tame its power, yet he decided to use Kurama, not his PS in that battle.
    incomplete juubi and PS are consistently mountain size
    PS was showed once. Its mountain size? So was KM8 Naruto.

    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-444-13/...apter-439.html , http://www.mangapanda.com/93-445-3/n...apter-440.html -> KM8 was definietly smaller than CT.
    http://www.mangapanda.com/93-444-6/n...apter-439.html -> But so were the mountains.
     
         

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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Largephone View Post
    Amaterasu hits Naruto => Sasuke wins
    naruto dodges cos hes as fast as ei at full power(ei could dodge it), even if it was to hit him:he would just constantly heal himself(kuramas chakra cloak heals naruto,similarly to hashiramas medical ninjutsu) he would still be in a lot of pain but naruto wont die so easily

    Quote Originally Posted by SasukeUchiha910 View Post
    are u rtarded that was bee and the nines power :sy:
    true but still: a bijuudama half the size was made by 5 bijuu and naruto made one of equal power with ease... so your suggestion is invalid
     
         
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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    I agree 100% sasuke will get PS, and i think it would be cool if he had a PS like that of the statue you posted. Back on topic, i will post my understanding of their powers:

    base sasuke>base naruto
    CM sasuke<SM naruto
    MS sasuke>SM naruto (but only by a little bit)
    EMS sasuke>KCM naruto (ama spam the clones)
    EMS sasuke<BM naruto (without PS)
    EMS sasuke=BM naruto (with PS)

    also keep in mind we've yet to see what sasukes up to and chances are hes getting a powerup
     
         

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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by flcl724 View Post
    EMS sasuke> BM Naruto

    Naruto has never beaten sasuke in the entire series

    Come at me
    Series isn't over yet genius.

    As for OT: Actually we really don't know where Sasuke stands at the moment with Naruto. Its really hard to tell. But I would say that until Sasuke acquires PS, Naruto in BM is currently above him. But thats just an educated guess.
     
         
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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    Sasuke base>Naruto base
    Sasuke 3tamoe< Naruto sm
    Sasuke ms>Naruto sm
    Sasuke ms<Naruto kcm
    Sasuke ems>Naruto kcm
    Sasuke ems<<<Naruto bm
     
         

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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by Draphsin View Post
    I agree 100% sasuke will get PS, and i think it would be cool if he had a PS like that of the statue you posted. Back on topic, i will post my understanding of their powers:

    base sasuke>base naruto
    CM sasuke<SM naruto
    MS sasuke>SM naruto (but only by a little bit)
    EMS sasuke>KCM naruto (ama spam the clones)
    EMS sasuke<BM naruto (without PS)
    EMS sasuke=BM naruto (with PS)

    also keep in mind we've yet to see what sasukes up to and chances are hes getting a powerup
    Cool, however Sasuke no longer has CM.
    It might be possible for him to get another power up, but then we wouldn't even see what his newly awakened EMS could do.
     
         

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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGeorge View Post
    Cool, however Sasuke no longer has CM.
    It might be possible for him to get another power up, but then we wouldn't even see what his newly awakened EMS could do.
    His newly awakened EMS was never said to give any new power-ups nor will it, all it is said to do is grant eternal light for the MS so please stop assuming and giving Power ups on behalf of Sasuke. Everyone including you constantly are assuming that Sasuke will get PS, when there is a very slight chance of that happening considering the fact that it's too predictable for someone like Kishi. Even if he were to get a Susano'o power-up, you think someone like Sasuke can stabilize so much chakra, when Itachi couldn't? Once he gets a perfect Susano'o, what will he achieve? Madara stated it was comparable in power to that of a bijuu, meaning an average bijuu, so very likely 4 or 5 tails since that's in the middle. He did not say comparable to the most powerful bijuu; referring to Kurama, and Kurama's TBB was able to handle 5 of the bijuu's TBB's combined. So I see no chance of a PS blocking a TBB from someone like Kurama, let alone a multi-TBB. People underrate Naruto in BM too much to the point where they think the only power up is transforming, when Naruto wikia clearly states his power and speed is greatly increased. EMS Sasuke has not the slightest chance against BM Bee, let alone BM Naruto. But if you want to know something that will happen with over 1 50% chance? Sasuke will most likely obtain a dojutsu that is not the rinnegan, but that of the SO6P older son.
     
         

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    Re: EMS Sasuke=BM Naruto?

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoIndra View Post
    His newly awakened EMS was never said to give any new power-ups nor will it, all it is said to do is grant eternal light for the MS so please stop assuming and giving Power ups on behalf of Sasuke. Everyone including you constantly are assuming that Sasuke will get PS, when there is a very slight chance of that happening considering the fact that it's too predictable for someone like Kishi. Even if he were to get a Susano'o power-up, you think someone like Sasuke can stabilize so much chakra, when Itachi couldn't? Once he gets a perfect Susano'o, what will he achieve? Madara stated it was comparable in power to that of a bijuu, meaning an average bijuu, so very likely 4 or 5 tails since that's in the middle. He did not say comparable to the most powerful bijuu; referring to Kurama, and Kurama's TBB was able to handle 5 of the bijuu's TBB's combined. So I see no chance of a PS blocking a TBB from someone like Kurama, let alone a multi-TBB. People underrate Naruto in BM too much to the point where they think the only power up is transforming, when Naruto wikia clearly states his power and speed is greatly increased. EMS Sasuke has not the slightest chance against BM Bee, let alone BM Naruto. But if you want to know something that will happen with over 1 50% chance? Sasuke will most likely obtain a dojutsu that is not the rinnegan, but that of the SO6P older son.
    It actually did say that EMS gave birth to a new doujutsu, but thats beside the point.

    Why would we not assume, its the only EMS technique that we've seen would be able to hurt naruto in bijuu mode.

    Sasuke got MS so why would it be below Kishi to give him PS. And its not to predictable seeing as you don't think it will. Also people thought Tobi being obito was to predictable and yet it happened.

    Itachi never had EMS so he didn't have the chance. When has it been stated that PS was hard to stabilize? Even if it is Itachi didn't think Sasuke would be able to control Susanoo as well as he has, but he did.

    It said comparable meaning that a bijuu would be the only other thing that could create similar destruction, never that it was equal to a bijuu. How do you know that it was the 5 or 6 tail. You don't none of us do all we know is that only a bijuu would have a chance against PS.

    No one is underrating BM Naruto if anything your underrating EMS Sasuke.

    Amaterasu already beat BM Bee.

    Bm Naruto still has the same powers as KCM even if improved them a little. And Sasuke has already fought someone that has almost the exact same powers.

    Sasuke might get a power up, but at the same time he might not.
     
         

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