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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightbringer View Post
    So many wrongs I don't know where to begin.

    Why didn't Itachi then use it on Obito if it was that powerful?

    How did Danzo beat Shishui and take his eye then?

    How did Ao survive the fight against shishui and remember his KA move?

    How did the effects of KA wear off on Mifune?

    How did Obito control Yagura with a genjutsu that was similar to KA(Ao stated this)?

    If you can't answer these questions with sufficient evidence, then you're wrong.
    1. He was still spying /Crow is inside of naruto/Saving it for sasuke / he never got to fight him. in that order by dates
    2. Doesnt apply to my scenario, if the bird catches it eye than it does, no getting around it, While danzo knew well off shishui's capability's
    3. Since he didnt kill shishui, and he is still alive obviously in the case of a one on one, fight he was knocked unconscious or shishui spared him. If not alone, he either retreated, or was carried back, wounded. Since shishui was revered its also possible that, they knew much about him, and new how to avoid many of his genjutsus
    4. It doesnt matter, the second itachi asume control he can order obito to cut his own head off.
    5. Doesnt matter Shishui > Obito genjutsu/ even if obito has a similar genjutsu it doesnt matter if he knows how to counter it if he doesnt know if he is being controlled.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by celarian View Post
    1. He was still spying /Crow is inside of naruto/Saving it for sasuke / he never got to fight him. in that order by dates
    2. Doesnt apply to my scenario, if the bird catches it eye than it does, no getting around it, While danzo knew well off shishui's capability's
    3. Since he didnt kill shishui, and he is still alive obviously in the case of a one on one, fight he was knocked unconscious or shishui spared him. If not alone, he either retreated, or was carried back, wounded. Since shishui was revered its also possible that, they knew much about him, and new how to avoid many of his genjutsus
    4. It doesnt matter, the second itachi asume control he can order obito to cut his own head off.
    5. Doesnt matter Shishui > Obito genjutsu/ even if obito has a similar genjutsu it doesnt matter if he knows how to counter it if he doesnt know if he is being controlled.
    So he would just risk Obito destroying Konoha and taking control over the world, harming/using Sasuke in the process?

    Obito knows of shishui's ability. If you don't recall, he knew that Danzo had it.

    If you also recall, when Danzo was using KA on mifune, he had to focus it on him in order to work. As soon as he stopped focusing it on him, Mifune broke out. It's pretty hard to focus on a moving target in battle, especially one that can teleport around.

    Also Danzo awakened Shishui's eye, near the end of the battle with Sasuke, but contemplated throwing it away for Izanagi....why would he do that if it was so powerfu? And not to mention that he still didn't even have time to cast it and Sasuke stabbed him and karin.

    KA has its flaws, just like every other tech.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by BZPA239 View Post
    obito is so overated, Itachi wouldve took him out, if kakashi cud figure out obitos weakness so could itachi, easily.
    Obito overrated? Not Itachi? You think Obito can't figure out Itachi's weakness?
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Aye. i've been reading alot of the posts here and frankly im getting a little pissed. People seem to overrate Obito waaayyyyyyy too much. first of all why wouldn't Obito be afraid of Itachi? before u start raging in ur minds.. think about it. At the time, Obito had only one sharingan in use. Compare tht with Itachi's left eye for genjutsu and his right eye for strong physical attacks - amateratsu. Obito had Kamui. In some point in time did it ever occur to any of u guys that Obito may just be a little lapdog weakling? I've been reading 'Oh Obito's so smart, he's so intelligent... he convinced Nagato.... ' well thts the same way Madara is using him. Obito's been nothing but a sorry excuse for a ninja up until obtaining the rennigan. And why not be afraid of Itachi? ur going up against an obviously talented individual who was shining at an age where u were just pathetic. Tht is, before u got senju DNA. Bottom line.. Itachi nvr knew secrets about Obito and Obito nvr knew secrets about Itachi... of course u would be scared of him. Not bow down to his feet scared bt still scared.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    ye he can but who of one of the two can execute their strategy better to take out the other person? I think i ll put my money on Itachi
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix of Chaos View Post
    Aye. i've been reading alot of the posts here and frankly im getting a little pissed. People seem to overrate Obito waaayyyyyyy too much. first of all why wouldn't Obito be afraid of Itachi? before u start raging in ur minds.. think about it. At the time, Obito had only one sharingan in use. Compare tht with Itachi's left eye for genjutsu and his right eye for strong physical attacks - amateratsu. Obito had Kamui. In some point in time did it ever occur to any of u guys that Obito may just be a little lapdog weakling? I've been reading 'Oh Obito's so smart, he's so intelligent... he convinced Nagato.... ' well thts the same way Madara is using him. Obito's been nothing but a sorry excuse for a ninja up until obtaining the rennigan. And why not be afraid of Itachi? ur going up against an obviously talented individual who was shining at an age where u were just pathetic. Tht is, before u got senju DNA. Bottom line.. Itachi nvr knew secrets about Obito and Obito nvr knew secrets about Itachi... of course u would be scared of him. Not bow down to his feet scared bt still scared.
    Just to clarify, Obito had 2 sharingan.

    He had spares which he used. His one eye was strong enough to control a jinchuriki.

    He had mokuton, which from what we've seen was far more deadlier than yamato's, even at such an early age.

    He had zetsu to spy on Itachi and figure out his secrets.

    Aside for amaterasu, we see that Obito has more advanced fire jutsu like the Bakufu Ranbu, and amaterasu takes a while to cast. Sasuke managed to even interrupt Itachi trying to cast it the first time around.

    His taijutsu was advanced enough to take on Naruto, Bee, Guy, and Kakashi at the same time while Itachi got stabbed multiple times by Kabuto when he was teamed up with Sasuke.

    Here is Itachi preparing amaterasu for the first time during the Sasuke fight



    Next page, still preparing



    and then Sasuke throws a shuriken and Itachi loses focus



    Amaterasu can be interrupted, especially since Obito knows that Itachi has it.

    Was Obito afraid of Itachi? No

    Did they trust each other? No

    Were they cautious of each other? Yeah

    Did they respect each other? Yeah
     
         
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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    itachi wasnt even healthy when he fought sasuke or he wasnt trying to hurt sasuke because he was only trying to lure out orichmaru, and even zetsu sed that itachi wasnt fighting like he usually does.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    rlly u did?
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    ur right
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

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    Obito may be intangible but people who are intangible also has a intangibility weakness kid. Itachi is smart and capable enough of figureing out obitos weakness and exploiting it. Therefore he will kill finish him. Bye kid.
    I agree
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by BZPA239 View Post
    obito is so overated, Itachi wouldve took him out, if kakashi cud figure out obitos weakness so could itachi, easily.
    your avatar super cool
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    He was scared of him. Besides Itachi can beat Obito anytime.
    We all know Tobi doesnt have the byakugan so he has to look at Itachi during the battle and if he did so itachi use tsukiyomi. Tsukuyomi can only be broken by the same blood (brother, sister ,father or mother). Once hes stuck in tsukiyomi, Itachi would use amaterasu and burn him since tobi is stuck in tsukiyomi he wont be able to use kamui.

    Or

    After tsukuyomi itachi can use the sword of totsuka on his susanoo to seal tobi forever! :D
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    In a way you could say that Obito was afraid of Itachi. But only because he knew Itachi could spoil his plans.

    It is also possible that without his full power (Rinnegan) to go along with his one Sharingan, he couldn't kill Itachi himself.

    I personally don't believe Obito was afraid of Itachi in, "Let me not mess with him cause he'll kill me," type of way.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by BZPA239 View Post
    obito is so overated, Itachi wouldve took him out, if kakashi cud figure out obitos weakness so could itachi, easily.
    In fact he is underrated. Itachi did not figure out that Tobi was Obito, he believed he was Madara for a long time, in fact always. Obito have the best defense in Naruto without any doubts and the only reason why Kakashi figure it out was because they had same eyes/bla.

    Obito's only weakness is a person that can use space time jutsu's (kakashi) but even then he still have the Rinnegan to use. He is OP, and he can summon the Gedo mazo without Rinnegan too.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    yes he was up until he got rinnegan
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by 'Nāpalm View Post
    I remember I was IP banned once for making this exact same thread =/
    EXactly.

    Ban these stupid threads.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Obito aint scared of itachi. And at his present form e ain scared of any"
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by 409fusion View Post
    He was scared of him. Besides Itachi can beat Obito anytime.
    We all know Tobi doesnt have the byakugan so he has to look at Itachi during the battle and if he did so itachi use tsukiyomi. Tsukuyomi can only be broken by the same blood (brother, sister ,father or mother). Once hes stuck in tsukiyomi, Itachi would use amaterasu and burn him since tobi is stuck in tsukiyomi he wont be able to use kamui.

    Or

    After tsukuyomi itachi can use the sword of totsuka on his susanoo to seal tobi forever! :D
    This ;p
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by 409fusion View Post
    He was scared of him. Besides Itachi can beat Obito anytime.
    We all know Tobi doesnt have the byakugan so he has to look at Itachi during the battle and if he did so itachi use tsukiyomi. Tsukuyomi can only be broken by the same blood (brother, sister ,father or mother). Once hes stuck in tsukiyomi, Itachi would use amaterasu and burn him since tobi is stuck in tsukiyomi he wont be able to use kamui.

    Or

    After tsukuyomi itachi can use the sword of totsuka on his susanoo to seal tobi forever! :D
    That is really one sided. You say that like Itachi always has the advantage in every situation.

    Considering that the plan is called "Infinite Tsukuyomi" Obito most likely has tsukuyomi as well....and his one eye was powerful enough to control a yagura, "perfect jinchuriki".....Bee said that perfect jinchuriki's can snap out of genjutsu with the bijuu's help.







    Considering that he was able to do this means that his genjutsu is one of the most advanced in the series.

    You can't seal what you can't hit....and it has already been proven that for something to be seal with the sword, you have to pierce the target, not slash them.

    Here we see Susanoo slashing at Oro's serpent, cutting its heads of and not sealing it.



    and here we see Itachi pierce Oro, not slash him....which got him sealed. Same with Nagato....all of his targets were stationary, not moving....and Obito's fast.





    Obito can dodge 4 people at once....he fought Kakashi, Naruto, Bee, and Guy with only taijutsu......yet Itachi couldn't keep up with Kabuto in taijutsu.





    I'm pretty certain he can dodge a susanoo....not to mention he can also warp inside of it.
     
         
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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    your wrong when itachi was in akatsuki he was punking them all out and even sealed amaterasu in sasuke for obito
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    itachi punked everyone in akatsuki..everyone was scared of him
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Tobi stated that if he didn't kept some secrest from him we'd be dead. And i do also agree that Obito feared Nagato, either way he would "ressed" Madara a long ago and also stealed his Rinnegan.
     
         
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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by senju roshith View Post
    I agree
    See.......this is a person who has sense.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    actually kisame was a member before itachi. it was displayed in the anime. ;-).
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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightbringer View Post
    So he would just risk Obito destroying Konoha and taking control over the world, harming/using Sasuke in the process?

    Obito knows of shishui's ability. If you don't recall, he knew that Danzo had it.

    If you also recall, when Danzo was using KA on mifune, he had to focus it on him in order to work. As soon as he stopped focusing it on him, Mifune broke out. It's pretty hard to focus on a moving target in battle, especially one that can teleport around.

    Also Danzo awakened Shishui's eye, near the end of the battle with Sasuke, but contemplated throwing it away for Izanagi....why would he do that if it was so powerfu? And not to mention that he still didn't even have time to cast it and Sasuke stabbed him and karin.

    KA has its flaws, just like every other tech.
    1. Obito would be dead.
    2. Obito knows not of the crow, or of genjutsu using crows. And would not fear any animal. The second it catches his eye hes toast, it has to catch his eye or he would never know that it had a difference between the other crows.
    3. I told you that obito usually has to come close, unlike kakashi, so for a extremely coordinated, and skilled itachi, its not hard to find a time were he is standing still or moving at low speed. Also if obito is standing when he looks at the crow, which he will be if its a time before the fight has become heated, then hes also toast. Plus its a one on one battle.
    4. This is not a debate over Danzo's rationality, plus sasuke knows that danzo's particular eye has poweful genjutsu, and inzanagi is more important for his survival, which is its main purpose for him, so its more valuable to him than a genjutsu. While obito knows nothing of the "Crows" Genjutsu.

    5. Creation of all things = Tech= No flaws

    Come on Give me something difficult.
     
         

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