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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Zlad View Post
    In fact he is underrated. Itachi did not figure out that Tobi was Obito, he believed he was Madara for a long time, in fact always. Obito have the best defense in Naruto without any doubts and the only reason why Kakashi figure it out was because they had same eyes/bla.

    Obito's only weakness is a person that can use space time jutsu's (kakashi) but even then he still have the Rinnegan to use. He is OP, and he can summon the Gedo mazo without Rinnegan too.

    Best defense? No... his weakness has been figured out and he's been hit several times now.

    It was a good counter, but not the best defense in the Narutoverse.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

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    Best defense? No... his weakness has been figured out and he's been hit several times now.

    It was a good counter, but not the best defense in the Narutoverse.
    Kakashi is the only reason he's been hit
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Draphsin View Post
    Youre wrong, Obito knew everything about itachi while itachi knew almost nothing. So there is nothing he could do that could possibly scare obito.



    Obito is smarter than itachi, and itachi had no idea that tobi was obito, he wasnt scared of him.

    You should read the post that I responded to before trying to call me out on it, I was referring to knowing about madara as MS in general not knowing obito's identity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Draphsin View Post
    Kakashi is the only reason he's been hit
    false karuma is the only reason he got hit. He figured it out and threw kakashi in
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by celarian View Post
    1. It was known about just no one knew exactly how to use it.
    2. He did it on his own, this is fact. Itachi knows about lots of things, he is in the anbu meaning he would know alot past criminals and village matters of this sort, not only that but it is probably talked about on that script that only uchiha's can read, if not somthing about that sort of thing alteast. Dont accuse me of making assumptions if you yourself has no knowledge of facts on the subject.
    3. Obviously any sensory type who knows shishui's chackra, especially hyugas can identify it.

    Yet you have not proven me wrong since my theory is hypothetical and is not directly opposed to your theory. I suppose flawless isnt quite the right word to use for what you proudly post here. Dont get me wrong, I respect you i've seen some of the post you have done, simply you are wrong here.
    and I respect you and your thoughts, but....Obito was not scared of Itachi....did he trust him? no. Were they cautious of each other? yes. Did they respect each other? Yes.

    Obito was never shown to have feared anything, except when kabuto showed him Madara's body....even then he laughed afterwards. If he's not afraid of edo Madara, then how's he afraid of Itachi?

    When people make vs threads with Itachi, they always act like KA is a sure thing....if it misses, he won't be able to use it again in years time. Obito was even able to dodge the mind-body switch technique from behind....this is an invisible tech mind you. If he can dodge that so easily, who's to say that he can't dodge KA?



    Not to mention bringing up KA is like bringing up the juubi as part a characters arsenal.....KA isn't Itachi's ability and yet everyone puts their faith in it and overrate Itachi because of it. Without KA, Itachi would be outmatched in taijutsu, and I already gave evidence in my previous comments as ways that Obito can counter every move of Itachi's.

    Itachi doesn't even know about Izanagi, which would catch him off guard like it did with Konan. He could fool him into believing he was sealed and stab him from behind.

    Itachi doesn't know about kamui and doesn't really have anything to counter against it which can outmaneuver his susanoo and pass its defense. Minato at least had FTG to surprise a 15 year old Obito. Obito isn't an idiot and cannot be outsmarted so easily.

    People always keep bringing up that Itachi is the smartest person ever, but that's not true. We don't know that...his calm and cool personality is what fools people into believing that assumption. He's not the only character with good analytical skills....but if we're basing intelligence of feats from the manga, Obito certainly has more.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Itachi can't win against Obito. I love Itachi, he's one of my favorite characters, but it's frustrating as how much people overrate him...it's ridiculous. Is it likely that he can win on average? No. Is it possible for him to win against Obito? Yeah. But Obito stands a better chance.

    Would Kishi really make a character to be one of the central, most important villains, who is pretty much the "dark naruto" weaker than his subordinate? I highly doubt it. Villains tend to be the most powerful, until the main heroes surpass them.
     
         
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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by celarian View Post
    You should read the post that I responded to before trying to call me out on it, I was referring to knowing about madara as MS in general not knowing obito's identity.
    What?

    Quote Originally Posted by celarian View Post
    false karuma is the only reason he got hit. He figured it out and threw kakashi in
    kakashi would be trapped right now if he didnt have obitos eye, hows itachi gonna escape?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightbringer View Post
    and I respect you and your thoughts, but....Obito was not scared of Itachi....did he trust him? no. Were they cautious of each other? yes. Did they respect each other? Yes.

    Obito was never shown to have feared anything, except when kabuto showed him Madara's body....even then he laughed afterwards. If he's not afraid of edo Madara, then how's he afraid of Itachi?

    When people make vs threads with Itachi, they always act like KA is a sure thing....if it misses, he won't be able to use it again in years time. Obito was even able to dodge the mind-body switch technique from behind....this is an invisible tech mind you. If he can dodge that so easily, who's to say that he can't dodge KA?



    Not to mention bringing up KA is like bringing up the juubi as part a characters arsenal.....KA isn't Itachi's ability and yet everyone puts their faith in it and overrate Itachi because of it. Without KA, Itachi would be outmatched in taijutsu, and I already gave evidence in my previous comments as ways that Obito can counter every move of Itachi's.

    Itachi doesn't even know about Izanagi, which would catch him off guard like it did with Konan. He could fool him into believing he was sealed and stab him from behind.

    Itachi doesn't know about kamui and doesn't really have anything to counter against it which can outmaneuver his susanoo and pass its defense. Minato at least had FTG to surprise a 15 year old Obito. Obito isn't an idiot and cannot be outsmarted so easily.

    People always keep bringing up that Itachi is the smartest person ever, but that's not true. We don't know that...his calm and cool personality is what fools people into believing that assumption. He's not the only character with good analytical skills....but if we're basing intelligence of feats from the manga, Obito certainly has more.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Itachi can't win against Obito. I love Itachi, he's one of my favorite characters, but it's frustrating as how much people overrate him...it's ridiculous. Is it likely that he can win on average? No. Is it possible for him to win against Obito? Yeah. But Obito stands a better chance.

    Would Kishi really make a character to be one of the central, most important villains, who is pretty much the "dark naruto" weaker than his subordinate? I highly doubt it. Villains tend to be the most powerful, until the main heroes surpass them.
    you make good points and true obitos base speed>Itachis
     
         
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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Draphsin View Post
    What?


    kakashi would be trapped right now if he didnt have obitos eye, hows itachi gonna escape?



    you make good points and true obitos base speed>Itachis
    I never said itachi can escape that, and karuma wouldnt have thrown him in and given him extra chackra if he didnt think he could get out.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by celarian View Post
    I never said itachi can escape that, and karuma wouldnt have thrown him in and given him extra chackra if he didnt think he could get out.
    Okay w.e Obito>Itachi
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Draphsin View Post
    Okay w.e Obito>Itachi
    Capability about equal
    Rank no
    Intelligence no
    Intellect no
    Stamina yes
    Genjutsu N/A
    Feats Yes
    Age yes
    Taijutsu no
    Ninjutsu N/A

    Were can i learn the base speed of characters in mph? .... exactly
     
         
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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    I never thought that Obito feared Itachi but there are suspicions like why keep a man alive & respect all of his wishes when you have little to benifit from him being around? For the most part I think he respected Itachi & the manga supports this when you take note of his interactions with others.

    Obito showed Itachi more respect than he ever did any other Uchiha/character in the story for the most part and that speaks volume .. as for fear, that is inconclusive.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by HiddenWarrior View Post
    I never thought that Obito feared Itachi but there are suspicions like why keep a man alive & respect all of his wishes when you have little to benifit from him being around? For the most part I think he respected Itachi & the manga supports this when you take not of his interactions with others.

    Obito showed Itachi more respect than he ever did any other Uchiha/character in the story for the most part and that speaks volume .. as for fear, that is inconclusive.
    exactly.....yet people think because Obito is a man of his word and didn't attack Konoha until Itachi's death that he feared him and that whole deal with the surprise attack amaterasu.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

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    exactly.....yet people think because Obito is a man of his word and didn't attack Konoha until Itachi's death that he feared him and that whole deal with the surprise attack amaterasu.
    Didnt he say that now that itachi is dead the last thing that was bothering him is gone?
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by celarian View Post
    Didnt he say that now that itachi is dead the last thing that was bothering him is gone?
    I believe we already went through this after pages of comments.

    Him being a thorn in his side doesn't mean he was scared, but felt obligated to uphold his word. Itachi upheld his word by helping akatsuki and letting "Madara" get revenge against the Uchiha.

    The least Obito could do as payment is keep his word.
     
         
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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Lightbringer & Celarian

    You're both right in your own way.

    Itachi posed a significant threat to Obito thus that adds to his legacy as the pound for pound greatest uchiha to ever live (second only to Madara) and that there is no conclusive evidence that can prove that Obito feared the man without a shadow of doubt, therefore he isn't/wasn't until proven otherwise.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by HiddenWarrior View Post
    Lightbringer & Celarian

    You're both right in your own way.

    Itachi posed a significant threat to Obito thus that adds to his legacy as the pound for pound greatest uchiha to ever live (second only to Madara) and that there is no conclusive evidence that can prove that Obito feared the man without a shadow of doubt, therefore he isn't/wasn't until proven otherwise.
    Very well, i'm out.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    OMG This is still going on? its obvious current obito>itachi. It they had a fight itachi would lose. he isn't getting past kamui nor does he have an attack that is continuous for 5 mins.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    obito>>>itachi.. why else he would be the leder of Akatsuki ? no one was scared of itachi :D
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Lol......no, Obito was scared of Itachi
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    dude your a lil wrong obito was not scared of itachi but he did fear him in a battle beacuse no charecter in naruto knows itachis real power till date no one knows how strong itachi really was he has always been a mistery all we could say is that he was the youngest anbu captin ever he was the youngest in activet mangekyou he had the best eyes in the anime witch were hes eyes combined with shisui uchihas eyes and that he was the creature of amaterasu and Tsukuyomi that kakashi a jiraya said that itachi was above minatos skills

    all win know is that obito did fear to fight itachi beacuse he never tried to fight him when he was alive and didnt try to do anything to konoha and when he meet kabutomaru he was scare kabutomaru ataked obito and obito just jumped back and itachi was going alone to fight kabutomaru without sasuke just beacuse sasuke falowed him

    that means obito was scared of kabutomaru that wasent even in sage mode i mean supersage more the strongest sage mopde wich is dragon witch is the one itachi was fighting him

    that means itachi wasnt scared of kabutomaru even thow he had supersage mode and obito was scared of kabutomaru even thow he didnt have sage m
    obito didnt want itachi back from the dead and he even said that itachis power supases all the others power when he broke the Edo Tensei that mean he was above hanzo that beat all the sages, above nagatos and many others

    so what i have end up too it that obito wasnt scared of itaCHI but feard him in fight that itCHI COULD DEFEAT HIM so yeah

    but my vote is that ITACHI would win

     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    KA>>> Kamui,*****es!!!!! Buhahahahahahahahha cry me a river!!!!!
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not scared of Itachi

    Obito was scared of uchiha itachi because he had nothing other than his one MS technique/wood/fire. The rinnegan eyes were with nagato. He didn't have control of the tailed demons or the demon statue. Whether he was master behind scene, that's a different story. He knew better not confront nagato because he needed nagato to complete his plan. With the limited power he had at his disposal, he was scared of uchiha itachi. Against uchiha itachi, he knew he would need all the power he can have but that would only cause problems to his plans.

    One reason why uchiha itachi is so deadly, is his genjutsu/tsukuyomi/susanoo. I have yet to see a better user of tsukuyomi other than uchiha itachi. Every single opponent of uchiha itachi fell under his tsukuyomi.

    http://www.narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/606/11

    above you will see madara using tsukuyomi (genjutsu). "user can create anything he wants" ***with the help of harishima's cell***. Uchiha itachi was already able to create anything he wanted in his genjutsu. With uchiha itachi, you never knew whether he was the real uchiha itachi or fake or clone. This is his greatest power along with his susanoo (mirror shield and formless sword).

    Even sasuke wasn't able to tell real from fake. At some points, even I wasn't able to tell whether the fight had started or not. Had itachi been serious about battling his brother, he would have caused a severe trauma to sasuke. Clearly itachi gave enough time for sasuke to break free from itachi's tsukuyomi, he would have rip sasuke's last eye in a heartbeat but he chose to take it slowly so sasuke would manage to break free.

    This goes to tell you that even, someone with sharingan would have gotten traumatized by itachi's tsukuyomi.
     
         
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