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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    In terms of power naruto is high kage, however in terms of skill set he doesn't cut the jonin mark for me and sits at chunnin level.

    True the requirements for jonin hasnt been explicitly been given in the manga therefore neither parties can make a claim for naruto being jonin or not. However the manga has given us hints of the skill set a jonin level ninja requires though ill admit some jonins do not meet these skill set.

    The first is that those in the jonin category usually have 2 nature manipulation. Something that naruto lacks though quiet alot of jonins havent shown this therefore it isnt limited to naruto, though for example people like gai who uses taijutsu, this requirement would be evaded by him, however not by naruto who uses ninjutsu

    Basic knowledge in the field of all 3 ninja arts and to an extent the ability to demonstrate all 3 forms. Though again majority of jonin's havent shown this. however the ability to disrupt your chakra, effectively breaking out of genjutsu is a skill that a jonin who isnt even a genjutsu user should know. Gai might not even know the basic genjutsu however he has shown the ability to know that he is a genjutsu and release himself from it.

    Attention to detail and leadership. Naruto has shown some form of attention to detail, however usually its hinted to him. His intelligence feats is also very limited to battle situations and there is more to intelligence than just battle intelligence, but also his way of understanding things are quiet tricky to the extent that kakashi was surprised that jiraiya managed to teach him rasengan, but also kakashi decided not to go down the root of informing naruto about kg's, medic ninjutsu and genjutsu. As for leadership, he hasnt shown much of this unless you consider being the leader of konohamaru, udon and the other girl as leadership.

    When judged on power alone then yes he is kage level, however he lacks the other ingredients imo which makes a jonin

    Just to elaborate more on this. Base sasuke meets more requirements for jonin than base naruto, though i dont want to turn this into a sasuke vs naruto thread. Firstly he has 2 nature manipulation in raiton and katon. He demonstrated above average skill in ninjutsu, taijutsu and genjutsu, add to this kenjutsu and excels at weapon usage (shurinkenjutsu) in the form of Fuma Shuriken and Sofushasan no Tachi and Soshuriken no Jutsu. Did i forget to add that he can run his raiton through either his sword or shurikens. His base speed is also superior than base naruto's and commands a 4.5/5

    His intelligence isnt limited to battle situations but also he has shown leadership skills when he recruited, karin, juugo and suigetsu and made it clear that he was the leader and at first suigetsu wasnt sure of him, however he came to acknowledge sasuke as his superior.

    Base sasuke fits the bill for jonin more than base naruto and even then i wouldnt give base sasuke the title of kage
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    Post above lays out a pretty solid argument but I think Naruto's power level is beyond Kage level but his ability to effectively use it is hampered by his ongoing lack of maturity and focus which tend to cancel out each other. His ability to come up with astonishing solutions to overcome in times of crisis shows what he'll be like later in life...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    Strenght wise he is beyond kage level, iq dunno he needs to mature mby but thats why he has shikamaru
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    BM Naruto > Any of 5 Kages 1 on 1.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    I would argue he can solo the 5 kages.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    Quote Originally Posted by Altaneen View Post
    The Kages are not Naruto level...
    It's been spoken :scorps:
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    Naruto is obviously stronger than any of the 5 kages and idk how the Sage option isnt at 100 % because Jaraiya got defeated by Pain and Naruto kicked his ass and i know ABC logic doesnt apply in Naruto but obviously Jaraiya woulr be crushed by Obito and Madara and Naruto is holding his own while protecting others at the same time. He's sage level at the least
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    Beginning of Ship Naruto: High Chuunin
    Naruto Post rasenshuriken: High Jounin
    Naruto post sage mode: Mid-kage
    Naruto Post KCM: High-kage low-god
    Naruto post bijuu mode: Mid-high God
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    He is a kage.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    naruto is at a level of his own far beyond that of the kages
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    Beyond kage
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze Release View Post
    In terms of power naruto is high kage, however in terms of skill set he doesn't cut the jonin mark for me and sits at chunnin level.

    True the requirements for jonin hasnt been explicitly been given in the manga therefore neither parties can make a claim for naruto being jonin or not. However the manga has given us hints of the skill set a jonin level ninja requires though ill admit some jonins do not meet these skill set.

    The first is that those in the jonin category usually have 2 nature manipulation. Something that naruto lacks though quiet alot of jonins havent shown this therefore it isnt limited to naruto, though for example people like gai who uses taijutsu, this requirement would be evaded by him, however not by naruto who uses ninjutsu

    Basic knowledge in the field of all 3 ninja arts and to an extent the ability to demonstrate all 3 forms. Though again majority of jonin's havent shown this. however the ability to disrupt your chakra, effectively breaking out of genjutsu is a skill that a jonin who isnt even a genjutsu user should know. Gai might not even know the basic genjutsu however he has shown the ability to know that he is a genjutsu and release himself from it.

    Attention to detail and leadership. Naruto has shown some form of attention to detail, however usually its hinted to him. His intelligence feats is also very limited to battle situations and there is more to intelligence than just battle intelligence, but also his way of understanding things are quiet tricky to the extent that kakashi was surprised that jiraiya managed to teach him rasengan, but also kakashi decided not to go down the root of informing naruto about kg's, medic ninjutsu and genjutsu. As for leadership, he hasnt shown much of this unless you consider being the leader of konohamaru, udon and the other girl as leadership.

    When judged on power alone then yes he is kage level, however he lacks the other ingredients imo which makes a jonin

    Just to elaborate more on this. Base sasuke meets more requirements for jonin than base naruto, though i dont want to turn this into a sasuke vs naruto thread. Firstly he has 2 nature manipulation in raiton and katon. He demonstrated above average skill in ninjutsu, taijutsu and genjutsu, add to this kenjutsu and excels at weapon usage (shurinkenjutsu) in the form of Fuma Shuriken and Sofushasan no Tachi and Soshuriken no Jutsu. Did i forget to add that he can run his raiton through either his sword or shurikens. His base speed is also superior than base naruto's and commands a 4.5/5

    His intelligence isnt limited to battle situations but also he has shown leadership skills when he recruited, karin, juugo and suigetsu and made it clear that he was the leader and at first suigetsu wasnt sure of him, however he came to acknowledge sasuke as his superior.

    Base sasuke fits the bill for jonin more than base naruto and even then i wouldnt give base sasuke the title of kage
    sasuke is leading three punks while naruto is leading a joint army and he is also kurama's leading. whats greater than that?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    In power yeah, but obviously he couldn't actually run a village.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    Quote Originally Posted by Naruto Boss View Post
    sasuke is leading three punks while naruto is leading a joint army and he is also kurama's leading. whats greater than that?
    Sasuke- I beat Naruto 5 times, he let his friend die, twice, and he let me end up in darkness your comment is invalid :
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    Sasuke is mid-kage level and Sasuke stands no chance against BM atm so
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    Naruto is above Kage level. Now as a leader he still has a ways to go but he is learning. He will most likely be ready to be Hokage by the end of the series.

    In many ways this series is about Naruto growing up.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    Quote Originally Posted by Narutofan4203 View Post
    Sasuke is mid-kage level and Sasuke stands no chance against BM atm so
    Sasuke has perfect susanoo now he went through the kage summit with 3 heals naruto is always healing so he's weak af he'd be dead if the fox didn't help him (plot no jutsu)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    Quote Originally Posted by MinatoTheYellowFlash View Post
    Sasuke has perfect susanoo now he went through the kage summit with 3 heals naruto is always healing so he's weak af he'd be dead if the fox didn't help him (plot no jutsu)
    Sasuke had to be rescued at the Five Kage Summit if it weren't for Tobi Sasuke would be dead.

    Naruto fought 6 tailed beasts at once and won.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    kage level...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    chunin level
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    Quote Originally Posted by MinatoTheYellowFlash View Post
    Sasuke- I beat Naruto 5 times, he let his friend die, twice, and he let me end up in darkness your comment is invalid :
    Since when was Sasuke Naruto's responsibility?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

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    he is kage level and what do you mean is IQ is still genin?
    Cos he stupid?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    just thought to mention that he isnt actually able to control kurama controlling kurama would mean he tell kurama what to do hes in control but they're actually working together so the correct term would be Cooperating ^^ and hes far beyond kage level

    1. He beat garra i part one and he only used gamabunta
    2. he beat pain someone who tsunade could not which makes him stronger than her not strength wise but battle wise
    3. He outclassed Ay in speed in KCM and bijuu mode is faster
    4.oonoki is a old man and is outclassed in speed and power of Youth by naruto ^^
    and 5. well naruto would lose to her no doubt shes (hot) In more ways than 1 ^^
     
         

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    Re: Naruto is kages Level?

    I dont think he can take on 5 kage solo, remember wht happened when he used raseshruken against third raikaga
     
         

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