Establishing Why Naruto > Edo Madara

[TheTailedSage]

Theres a whole section based on how Preta Path wont work. Theres even another counter to preta in pure speed.

Dont get me wrong. This thread just shows that he would beat Madara, but at Very High - Max Diff.


* P.S.: is there a part of these forums where you can debate for other Universe's? I've been itching to have a debate about Dante (DMC3) vs. Dante (DMC: Devil May Cry)

I get where your coming from about the preta counter but you have to remember He doesnt necessarily need it to block rasengan remember he can block it with the fan, gourd (whatever it is) and the eternal allows you to keep up with incredible speeds, not saying it can keep up with his moves to fine accuracy but it can be countered

And yes :D the anime section!

[' ~ Dantee ~ ']

Your under the assumption Madara will be bothered by Naruto's speed when hes been keeping up with him all this time. He even blocked a punch from the Raikage and Onnoki combined. Naruto has nothing to defeat Madara.

You list alot of Narutos powers and ignore Madaras? He can spam wood dragon until Naruto is out of chakra. What is Naruto doing against a meteor and your method of sealing is laughable at best. PS would stomp Naruto.

[DemonicAvenger]

Your under the assumption Madara will be bothered by Naruto's speed when hes been keeping up with him all this time. He even blocked a punch from the Raikage and Onnoki combined. Naruto has nothing to defeat Madara.

You list alot of Narutos powers and ignore Madaras? He can spam wood dragon until Naruto is out of chakra. What is Naruto doing against a meteor and your method of sealing is laughable at best. PS would stomp Naruto.

Yet Lee absolutely blitzed the **** out of him? no amount of reasoning gets around that Madara couldn't even activate Preta.

I wont waste my breath on someone incapable of reading. Spamming Wood Dragon wouldn't do any good since Naruto is capable of bypassing it and closing the distance.

I get where your coming from about the preta counter but you have to remember He doesnt necessarily need it to block rasengan remember he can block it with the fan, gourd (whatever it is) and the eternal allows you to keep up with incredible speeds, not saying it can keep up with his moves to fine accuracy but it can be countered

And yes :D the anime section!

When im talking about Naruto's Speed im being exclusive to Naruto's Shunshin. Madara mentally or physically wouldn't even register it. I hope you all dont think I mean his basic speed that he used against Beast-Kage, and yes, he can counter Rasengan with Uchiha Gaeshi as long as Naruto adopts a linear movement without using Shunshin. If Naruto uses either of the aformention then I doubt Madara could counter.

Im debating wether i should put it up or not. The original Devil May Cry verse is on a completly diffrent Level from the new one.

[TheTailedSage]

Yet Lee absolutely blitzed the **** out of him? no amount of reasoning gets around that Madara couldn't even activate Preta.

I wont waste my breath on someone incapable of reading. Spamming Wood Dragon wouldn't do any good since Naruto is capable of bypassing it and closing the distance.



When im talking about Naruto's Speed im being exclusive to Naruto's Shunshin. Madara mentally or physically wouldn't even register it. I hope you all dont think I mean his basic speed that he used against Beast-Kage, and yes, he can counter Rasengan with Uchiha Gaeshi as long as Naruto adopts a linear movement without using Shunshin. If Naruto uses either of the aformention then I doubt Madara could counter.

Im debating wether i should put it up or not. The original Devil May Cry verse is on a completly diffrent Level from the new one.

I was a bit worried there LOL if your talking about shunshins if your going with that the gunbai barrier can be used to block that is IF he he can see it coming which i highly think he can since narutos speed hasnt exactly proved to be a huge factor in the fight whilst facing madara, anytime hes gotten even close to hitting madara its been with someones help even with shunshin

And you should do it anyway and see what ppl say

[DemonicAvenger]

I was a bit worried there LOL if your talking about shunshins if your going with that the gunbai barrier can be used to block that is IF he he can see it coming which i highly think he can since narutos speed hasnt exactly proved to be a huge factor in the fight whilst facing madara, anytime hes gotten even close to hitting madara its been with someones help even with shunshin

And you should do it anyway and see what ppl say

Naruto hasn't used Shunshin against Obito or Madara for a multitude of reason's

For Obito it was because of the Debris that made it impossible to use Shunshin to any effective degree, and by the time Shunshin could have been used effectively they had already created a guarenteed hit with Kakashi.

Against Madara it was because he only fought with him for a moment. Basically Madara used MokuRyu, Naruto escaped, blocked attacks from Madara and Obito, Then they went on to fight the Juubi. So i Really dont count Naruto's Scuffle with Madara for much other than the cool factor.


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I'll go put it up now.

[Zenic]

Lord Madara would win at the end of the day 1v1 Uchiha Inza

You and your Uchiha fanboy-ism. I dislike you and Kusanagi35 a lot because you post without reading favouring your favourite character all the time

[TheTailedSage]

Naruto hasn't used Shunshin against Obito or Madara for a multitude of reason's

For Obito it was because of the Debris that made it impossible to use Shunshin to any effective degree, and by the time Shunshin could have been used effectively they had already created a guarenteed hit with Kakashi.

Against Madara it was because he only fought with him for a moment. Basically Madara used MokuRyu, Naruto escaped, blocked attacks from Madara and Obito, Then they went on to fight the Juubi. So i Really dont count Naruto's Scuffle with Madara for much other than the cool factor.


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I'll go put it up now.

Im sure he coul dof done it by now against madara, for pete sake hes immobilized he cant move! LOL any powerful attacks wouldnt work if ther "linear" like you said and the barrier can easily be used as a shell

[DemonicAvenger]

Im sure he coul dof done it by now against madara, for pete sake hes immobilized he cant move! LOL any powerful attacks wouldnt work if ther "linear" like you said and the barrier can easily be used as a shell

Naruto seems to be more focused on the Juubi. Thats why he's been handing out chakra.

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Heres a link to the Dante v Dante thing if your interested

http://narutobase.net/forums/showthr...5#post10020895

[TheTailedSage]

Naruto seems to be more focused on the Juubi. Thats why he's been handing out chakra.

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Heres a link to the Dante v Dante thing if your interested

http://narutobase.net/forums/showthr...5#post10020895

Im talking about before the juubi Madara himself wasnt really trying to hurt naruto because he had already got some of the nine tails charkra

and ok

[DemonicAvenger]

Im talking about before the juubi Madara himself wasnt really trying to hurt naruto because he had already got some of the nine tails charkra

and ok

But it still wasn't truely a fight where either of them was going all out. Which honestly made me kinda upset at kishi :/ got all hype for nothing

[TheTailedSage]

But it still wasn't truely a fight where either of them was going all out. Which honestly made me kinda upset at kishi :/ got all hype for nothing

To be honest i dont know what narutos intentions was when he was fighting madara but its a facts madara wasnt trying at all, how can you have your arms folded during a battle with KM naruto LOOOOL but all together i agree kishi is a dam troll :s i want them to hurry up and beat juubi so we can get back to original fight :D

[TheNineTailedHero]

Agree with the Thread for the most Part.

Not all of it, but I agree with the outcome.

[TheSages456]

absolutely laughable.

naruto flat out stated that he wasnt holding back against madara and he still did nothing to him.

madara was taking on naruto, bee and gai at the same time. they arent even on the same tier.

[Neutra1 Knight]

absolutely laughable.

naruto flat out stated that he wasnt holding back against madara and he still did nothing to him.

madara was taking on naruto, bee and gai at the same time. they arent even on the same tier.

coming from somebody who claims their own opinion to be kishi's. lol gtfo

[TheSages456]

coming from somebody who claims their own opinion to be kishi's. lol gtfo

since i reiterate what he puts into his manga, yes the facts that i present would be the equivalent to kishis opinion.

[TobisPawn]

At this point, Naruto might be on Edo Madara's level. Or maybe a little below. Leaning towards the second option.

[' ~ Dantee ~ ']

Yet Lee absolutely blitzed the **** out of him? no amount of reasoning gets around that Madara couldn't even activate Preta.

I wont waste my breath on someone incapable of reading. Spamming Wood Dragon wouldn't do any good since Naruto is capable of bypassing it and closing the distance.



When im talking about Naruto's Speed im being exclusive to Naruto's Shunshin. Madara mentally or physically wouldn't even register it. I hope you all dont think I mean his basic speed that he used against Beast-Kage, and yes, he can counter Rasengan with Uchiha Gaeshi as long as Naruto adopts a linear movement without using Shunshin. If Naruto uses either of the aformention then I doubt Madara could counter.

Im debating wether i should put it up or not. The original Devil May Cry verse is on a completly diffrent Level from the new one.

Yet he already countered BM Narutos attack?. Madara was hit by Lee not Naruto so try again. If Naruto can just bypass wood dragon it why didn't he do it before? Quit overrating Naruto he can't even use a sealing tech. Who has Naruto blitzed since he got BM?

[karol the don]

Noone can defeat edo madara at the moment,madara stombs with Susanno,Wood release clones,preta deva path,he will still lough at naruto

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Naruto can seal Madara with the following method: After Madara has been caught by Gama Ranbu, Ma and Pa can then Reverse Summon him to mount myoboku. From there they will drop him in the toad oil which will force him to absorb Senjutsu and turn to stone. Since he's not experiencing pain, he will not break from the Genjutsu as a result of this.

would take too long, unreliable and even kages were tricked into sealing a clone. wtf do you think will happen here?

[BigBlade Master]

I don't like that ur idea, so I disagree

[MickNerks]

Naruto uses his chakra transfer technique in sage mode and ramps madara up with natural energy. Madara turns into stone toad.

Madara sealing complete!!

[Meido]

To get Madara sealed via frog juice, you actually have to reverse summon Madara to Mount Myoboku. Which is completely impossible.

[Bijuu mode naruto]

naruto cant win he has no sealing and he doesnt compare to someone who brought down 2 meteorites

[Kages]

I disagree, but nice work :D

[DemonicAvenger]

naruto cant win he has no sealing and he doesnt compare to someone who brought down 2 meteorites

Sealing method in the OP.

The meteorites are no biggie. He can Tank them with his BM Tails or just counter them with Bijudama