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    Quote Originally Posted by kydo View Post
    wow that theory about tobi being some sort of "actual clone" of danzo is actualy a good one and probly the best "who is tobi theory" ive heard in terms of its posibilities of twisting the story and at the same time making sense "IF IT WAS ACTUALY TRUE that is" idk if the guy who wrote it thought about it seriously or not but,props awarded and it got me to think for a couple secs[all known clones in narutoverse are less than the original in some way why i said actual clone] .jus expounding on why "I" think it wud make sense.IF danzo is uchiha madara it cud explain why danzo hates people who follow the teachings of the 1st & danzo's injuries, the injuries cud be the result of madara being beaten by the 1st as he was thought to be dead his injuries can be expected to have been severe and posibly iriversable leading to him needing some special power like the tailed beasts to "become complete again".The formation of root would basicaly be him forming a new loyal clan.Even tho drawing styles are often repeated, if the theory was true it wud explain why tobi is drawn similarly to danzo and why he wears the mask to hide his identity and since danzo remained in the shadows it wud clear him in the puplic eyes to be the 4th mizukage.The 4th "kazekage", altho he was orochimaru at the time, his face wasnt shown during the chunin exam so the 4th "mizukage" could have done the same during formal meetings with konoha and theres always transformation which wud be a much easier solution.Danzo's damaged right eye [sharingan] wud be a result of the battle making it unable to revert to its non sharingan form, his eye was in bandages even as early as when he was ablebodied in nagato's youth lol, i kno this part is weak but i seriosly only thought about the theory for like literaly 20 seconds and the posibilities poped into my head, just thought it didnt "seem" like "total" bullsh*t so it couldnt hurt to write what i was thinking.right?? -but even i think the 20 seconds of thought i put into it was reading too much into it rofl-
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    Yeah...not bad but i Still Say Tobi/madara/ is MASASHI KISHIMOTO :D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Xero View Post
    he might not win since there are so many people around that can save him.. gaara, team 7 and tobi are likely to step in. maybe you're right though i mean it looks like raikage's going to get burnt by the amaterasu shield so we'll see if he can put it out (most likely he can). and we probably won't be seeing much more from susanoo until naruto or tobi vs sasuke. leaving just tsukuyomi which i think raikage's already said he's immune to...

    how can sasuke win? new technique or he'll be saved.. maybe we will see more from susanoo
    Yea everyone was saying sasuke would get raped ... haha and too that guy who said that sasuke would never be better than itachi.. he's already managed to use one of his brothers prized techniques better than he could... dude we all need to face it sasuke is gettin stronger an all yall can do is hate lol... like really i bet all you sasuke haters didnt see susanoo coming hahahah.... an i know yall aint see him usen ameratsu as a shield.. itachi barely could put out ameratsu ... not only can sasuke use it an put it out// he can control it haha i love it... if sasuke can learn to control ameratsu like gaara with his sand... sasuke will become even more deadly.

    OO an one more thing yes i am a sasuke fan but not a fanboy ion think he a god i jus think he's the definition of what a real shinobi is... but like i said if sasuke beats raikage fair an square ima go find all of you who were swearing that raikage would win and repost all of your stupid post after all of your new stupid post.

    o an one more thing raikage is kick ass i haven't seen a character his size move that fast yet in this series,its very exciting to know that he's not jus strong but he's also fast like lightning lol.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    please just transfer this to the spoilers section....

    found a confirmed spoiler for Naruto 464

    Source: NARUTO Manga and Spoilers
    Credits: Sho, vered - NF

    んじゃやっぱりギロチンドロップから
    サスケも抵抗しようと天照を自分の前に移動させる
    その時 砂が雷影の攻撃を防ぎ吹き飛ばす
    雷影 風影貴様場合によっては容赦はせんぞ!!
    ガアラ あんたにこれ以上怪我をされても困るからな
     
    雷影自分の腕を切り落とし シーに治療させる

    サスケとガアラとの会話

    今もお前は昔と同じ目をしている~まだ遅くはないこっちに戻って来い~
    戻ったとしても俺に何がある~?俺は気づけたがお前にも小さい光がみえるだろ~
    俺はもうそんな光を見る眼は閉じたあるのは闇のみだ~
    テマリ もうよせ~そいつは時期に国際手配になるそうしたらもう戻れる場所なんてないんだ~私 情をはさむな !お前は風影だろう!!

    ガアラの左眼から涙が流れる  分かっている!! とヒョウタンからすべての砂を出す

    混乱に乗じついにカリンが火影の場所を突き止める
    場面は会議室へ
    居場所がばれたのでダンゾウは混乱になったら外に出るぞ とヒソヒソ 青が大人しくしていろと 一括

    場面は戻り デイダラ妹 すごい!!
    すべての天照を砂でガードするガアラ サスケ「さすが絶対防御だな俺の炎遁をここまで防ぐとは な」
    ダルイが 加勢します私が最初に術を放つので一斉に皆さんも 風3人 おk!!

    攻撃があたる瞬間にサスケのスサノオがついに現れる (真っ黒なスサノオ)
    カリン 以前のサスケじゃもうない 冷たすぎる><
    サスケ ガアラこれが俺の絶対防御だ!!
        両眼の万華鏡を開眼したときに得られる 第三のチート能力 スサノオだ!!

    で完です
    Source: NARUTO Manga and Spoilers
    Credits: Sho, vered - NF

    Is this spoiler even real? I'm not even sure if I should bother with it since it's so retarded (even though it apparently comes from nja). A few examples:

    Gaara interrupts Raikage's attack
    Gaara says Sasuke has the eyes as he once did
    Gaara starting to cry from his left eye
    Sasuke praising Gaara for his complete defense against Amaterasu with his sand
    Sasuke forms a pitch-black Susano'o
    Karin: "He's no longer the Sasuke from before. He's too cold!"
    Sasuke saying: "Gaara, this is my absolute defense! When I activated the Mangekyou in both eyes, the third cheat power I attained is Susano'o "

    And much more

    Utter garbage if this is a real chapter from Kishimoto



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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by ice palacio View Post
    please just transfer this to the spoilers section....

    found a confirmed spoiler for Naruto 464

    Source: NARUTO Manga and Spoilers
    Credits: Sho, vered - NF


    Source: NARUTO Manga and Spoilers
    Credits: Sho, vered - NF

    Is this spoiler even real? I'm not even sure if I should bother with it since it's so retarded (even though it apparently comes from nja). A few examples:

    Gaara interrupts Raikage's attack
    Gaara says Sasuke has the eyes as he once did
    Gaara starting to cry from his left eye
    Sasuke praising Gaara for his complete defense against Amaterasu with his sand
    Sasuke forms a pitch-black Susano'o
    Karin: "He's no longer the Sasuke from before. He's too cold!"
    Sasuke saying: "Gaara, this is my absolute defense! When I activated the Mangekyou in both eyes, the third cheat power I attained is Susano'o "

    And much more

    Utter garbage if this is a real chapter from Kishimoto



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    thats questionable indeed and its way to early for spoilers
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Rock Freakin Lee View Post
    i agree with you and sasukes abilities. But just because his sharningan has gotten stronger doesnt mean he himself has improved. he has been using it more and more. its his life line. hes been dependent on it. like most characters. you take away their trait and they struggle. tobi hasnt been showing his abilities for a long time and now hes in control.(or always been) im just sayin thats all. i do think hes improved immensly, just not enough.
    Sasukes Mangekyou has been gradually improving; the proof is when Susanoos premature self comes into play and then when Amaterasu is wrapped around Susanoos ribs as another line of defense. Although, you all still continue to not even give Sasuke the benefit of the doubt. Your quote "But just because his sharningan has gotten stronger doesnt mean he himself has improved." Well Sasuke's Mangekyou Sharingan does seem stronger but dont you think it takes the user to be able to wield their techs correctly? In other words, Sasuke has improved within himself since the break between the Kirabi and Raikage fights. Like Ive said before, Itachi has never used this Amaterasu/Susanoo combination.

    It seems to be that Sasuke is the only one who exclusively has done this. Now, Im not saying that Itachi doesnt have the possibilities of doing this combo but rather hes never been shown doing so in the manga. Oh yeah, Id like to point out when people said that if it wasnt for Suigetsu and Juugo blocking Sasuke, then that would have been a deadly blow. Yet in the most recent chapters Sasuke uses Susanoos ribs to protect himself against the Raikage, so whos to say he couldnt have done THAT then? Yes, the Raikage did happen to break through a rib or two but it still would have served as some sort of protection for Sasuke against Darui and Raikages blows.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystikk****** View Post
    Yea everyone was saying sasuke would get raped ... haha and too that guy who said that sasuke would never be better than itachi.. he's already managed to use one of his brothers prized techniques better than he could... dude we all need to face it sasuke is gettin stronger an all yall can do is hate lol... like really i bet all you sasuke haters didnt see susanoo coming hahahah.... an i know yall aint see him usen ameratsu as a shield.. itachi barely could put out ameratsu ... not only can sasuke use it an put it out// he can control it haha i love it... if sasuke can learn to control ameratsu like gaara with his sand... sasuke will become even more deadly.

    OO an one more thing yes i am a sasuke fan but not a fanboy ion think he a god i jus think he's the definition of what a real shinobi is... but like i said if sasuke beats raikage fair an square ima go find all of you who were swearing that raikage would win and repost all of your stupid post after all of your new stupid post.

    o an one more thing raikage is kick ass i haven't seen a character his size move that fast yet in this series,its very exciting to know that he's not jus strong but he's also fast like lightning lol.
    That is what I have been trying to say, that is has yet to be confirmed whether Itachi can extinguish Amaterasu outside a genjutsu or even encircle it around Susanoo. It does seem that Sasuke over the break against Kirabi (elapsed time) has improved. The same thing goes for me, I am a Sasuke supporter not a fanboy, the difference is very simple. A fanboy is a term used to describe one who is devoted to a single subject in an emotional or fanatical manner, or to a single point of view within themselves. I will only state the facts to the best of my abilities to at least give Sasuke the benefit of the doubt.

    I can understand if people dislike a character but when you act ridiculous and slur out disturbing things that makes you either naive, immature or a troll. Yes, its the "I told you so" but in my case it would be more like I told you so that Sasuke had a chance to win against Raikage and did. Like Ive said before it is Kishimoto who is the creator not us and he is the one who can do anything he wants to his manga.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by kydo View Post
    wow that theory about tobi being some sort of "actual clone" of danzo is actualy a good one and probly the best "who is tobi theory" ive heard in terms of its posibilities of twisting the story and at the same time making sense "IF IT WAS ACTUALY TRUE that is" idk if the guy who wrote it thought about it seriously or not but,props awarded and it got me to think for a couple secs[all known clones in narutoverse are less than the original in some way why i said actual clone] .jus expounding on why "I" think it wud make sense.IF danzo is uchiha madara it cud explain why danzo hates people who follow the teachings of the 1st & danzo's injuries, the injuries cud be the result of madara being beaten by the 1st as he was thought to be dead his injuries can be expected to have been severe and posibly iriversable leading to him needing some special power like the tailed beasts to "become complete again".The formation of root would basicaly be him forming a new loyal clan.Even tho drawing styles are often repeated, if the theory was true it wud explain why tobi is drawn similarly to danzo and why he wears the mask to hide his identity and since danzo remained in the shadows it wud clear him in the puplic eyes to be the 4th mizukage.The 4th "kazekage", altho he was orochimaru at the time, his face wasnt shown during the chunin exam so the 4th "mizukage" could have done the same during formal meetings with konoha and theres always transformation which wud be a much easier solution.Danzo's damaged right eye [sharingan] wud be a result of the battle making it unable to revert to its non sharingan form, his eye was in bandages even as early as when he was ablebodied in nagato's youth lol, i kno this part is weak but i seriosly only thought about the theory for like literaly 20 seconds and the posibilities poped into my head, just thought it didnt "seem" like "total" bullsh*t so it couldnt hurt to write what i was thinking.right?? -but even i think the 20 seconds of thought i put into it was reading too much into it rofl-
    i dont think danzo is madara,im jus sayin what poped up in my head when i read a decent theory.
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    "zeke' i agree people on here shud chill but i am not 'people',idk maybe i word things aggresivly to make my point but ive yet to get wound up,good lookin out tho,pce"
    This is actually a pretty good prediction...not only all that stuff you said, about Tobi and Danzo, but if you think about it, Danzo's tech for his sharingan is mind control...or thats what the guy with the byuakugan said...and we all know tobi likes to control peoples minds...their sharingan powers are very similar...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironreaver7 View Post
    thats questionable indeed and its way to early for spoilers
    that is not the real spoiler... in naruto anime they dont say such "shit" or "F***"
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    Awesome prediction about Madara perhaps being a clone operating for Danzo...makes sense. Maybe his (The clone's) abilities are, being he was the founder of Root kinda like Sai's? Whereas he is a drawing or painting that appears and disappears...ya know...watever.


    Also, my prediction was that Madara was in a stronger form than what Yondaime, The 4th was in. You know, how he appeared in Narutos head as a meager chakra taken on the form of himself. Madara could be a stronger chakra left over from his demise, one who can "teleport" and travel around and what not.

    I've never seen madara fight in this form, have you guys? I mean, i see him run away and vanish and "act" like hes taking a hit. But does he actually fight? I ask because maybe he cant fight cuz he's still tryna "come back"...


    .....I wonder if The 4th can still come back....
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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    about that spoiler on another site there is more details and its very intresting except gaara doesnt say shyt but for a moment him and sasuke talk and gaara says u have the same eyes i once had come with me while there is a little light left and sasuke says , come back to what and temari warns gaara he is the kazekage and to ignore his feelings
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by culinaryg View Post
    LOL THE GREATEST RIVALS NARUTO VS SASUKE ....THE ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN......BODY VS EYES.......and they both kissed each other
    are they gonna **** each other?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    Every new generation surpasses the previous one. That has been said many times and is pretty much the essence of this series (along with good vs bad etc). It is obvious that Naruto will surpass Yondaime and Sasuke will surpass Itachi. It is also more than obvios that their fated fight will be much, much better than the one Madara lost to Hashirama. For this to happen, Sasuke needs to defeat Raikage or Danzo. Since Raikage is closer to him :D he will be the one getting burned. Every fight starts off pretty much the same. Every technique that cannot be dodged is dodged somehow. If an opponent is stronger and techs aren`t working and everything seems like defeat is about to happen, the seemingly weaker fighter rises above the situation and comes up with a briliant plan.

    Sasuke is not stupid. In Deidara fight we saw his way of thinking. He has got a plan for Raikage, all we can do is wait :D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    i like all that everyone is saying but what about the fact that sasuke is holdin his own with a kage we still have no real idea of what it takes to be so damn powerful in this world n kishi only lets on a little at a time every chapter someone has the upper hand, but naruto n sasuke will most likely team up to kick madaras ass cause its not clear if sasuke actually cares what madara is after the "hate" is still after madara remember he helped kill the uchiha clan
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    honestly he isnt a clone y would a clone want to kill the original that doesnt make sense. not sayin its not possible but tobi wouldny have mention danzo at all. all that danzo wants is power n stability of that power. plus he is a bitaoch. madara probable needs all the bijuus chakra to bring his original body to life with all of his power intact. i think of him more as a leech than a person. he attaches his chakra to a new host which is where sasuke will be in a few more fights. needin more power n abilities just to fight naruto n the leaf.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    if spoiler true raikage is already dead cut his own arm he cant make hand sign jutsu!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    has he needed to use any hand signs
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    To all the Sasuke fans that talking about his strength etc.

    It's true sasuke is very strong, if you can competete with a kage, that means u must be very strong. He can use new tricks with his sharingan. So i admit he got very strong.

    But you guys must admit that its all thanks to itachi that transplated all his technique into sasuke, cause to use those technique's needs a lot of training, he got those technique's for free. And must have been training to make those technique stronger. But without itachi he wouldn't be this far and wouldn't be this strong.

    By the way it's a very nice fight ^_^ i hope this will go a bit further. I want to see what technique's these guys have.
     
         

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    To all the Sasuke fans that talking about his strength etc.

    It's true sasuke is very strong, if you can competete with a kage, that means u must be very strong. He can use new tricks with his sharingan. So i admit he got very strong.

    But you guys must admit that its all thanks to itachi that transplated all his technique into sasuke, cause to use those technique's needs a lot of training, he got those technique's for free. And must have been training to make those technique stronger. But without itachi he wouldn't be this far and wouldn't be this strong.

    By the way it's a very nice fight ^_^ i hope this will go a bit further. I want to see what technique's these guys have.
    indeed without itachi he would still be walking aroudn whit hsi regular sharingan!
    no mangekyou, no ametarus and no susanoo
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    my prediction:

    were seein nothin of naruto this time.

    amatersau burns down raikages arm, but nevertheless he almost kills saskuke. Sasi is only able to escape by using the curse and flyin away, because he recognizes that theres no point in fightin raikage to death and then not to be able to fight danzou so he waits till amatersau eats up raiki (or, whats also very probably, he uses an eyetechnique, which defeats raiki in one shot).
    In the meantime karin had found the other kages and sees that tobi has appeared within the circle of the kages.

    or other version, during the fight, sasi vs raiki tobi appears and orders sasi to search for danzo. in the meantime tobi is riping raiki, shi and darui in pieces.

    which one is more possible?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 463 Discussion / 464 Predictions

    ok guys u all seem to be forgetting somthin.Sasuke is like roughly 17 years old right now fighting a guy who is probly late 40's or in his 50's [that shud be like 1 of us owning a 1 yearold] and sasuke's pushing the 50 year old to his full powers.For the people who are slow, im saying sasuke shud be completely out matched because not only the battle experience but the main thing is raikage has had like atleast 30 more years to develop in every way u can think of.Nauto got to his current status which is either as strong or stronger than sasuke because oh his unique ability to train utalising shadow clones which boost the traing to light speed.Altho i have always thought of naruto and his clones being the balancer to sasukes sharingan,the clones give naruto an unlimited potential due to the training method so that is the main reason why he is stronger as he used the clones in his nature manipulation training and sage training, i dont think anything is wrong with usin what u were born with but the fact remains that now naruto has a rocket strapped to his back now in terms of potential,I am an uzumaki naruto fan and im tired of saying it but my recent posts have been directed at the sasuke bashers of late so i beleive it is neccesary to show im not being biased but stating the "facts of the manga".Both the 17 year olds are probly stronger than most kages emagine when they are 30, btw i hink sharingan is somthin that takes years to develop so sasuke isnt anywhere yet in his abilities especialy since hes now using itachi's[itachi was years older and a genius so it was automatic he was stronger than sasuke, i beleive sasuke did good against itachi who was the strongest man in the world imo even tho itachi was not at full strenth].
     
         
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