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    Re: Pretty Much Safe To Say That Madara...

    Its not that Itachi lied, its because he didn't know the truth
     
         

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    Re: Pretty Much Safe To Say That Madara...

    I really like all these comments... good theories, good theories. But we have to remember one thing: Obito has been known to stretch the truth for his own personal gain. He did it to Pain, only using him as a pawn. He did it to Sasuke, using Sasuke to get what he wants, while "seemingly" being protective of Sasuke. You saw how fast he was to throw Sasuke to the side when the war was over, promising him to Kabuto as if he was some piece of meat.

    Madara also had a hidden agenda for wanting Obito around, which is obviously using him to restore his own life. He also manipulated Obito for his own gain.

    People keep saying Itachi lied all his life... perhaps it was true, but he did it for the good of the village and for Sasuke. Itachi wasn't trying to turn Sasuke into a criminal. He wanted Sasuke to be ignorant to the truth. He wanted Sasuke to think that he killed the clan because he felt like it. He wanted Sasuke to kill him & be done with it. He wanted Sasuke to then return to the village a good guy.

    Since Obito wanted/needed Sasuke he told Sasuke about the clan, but who is to say that he wasn't lying about Madara getting Izuna's eyes willingly? Who is to say that Madara wasn't lying to Obito. Obito was a good person back then when he knew Madara. If he knew that Madara took Izuna's eyes by force, do you think that he would've wanted to help Madara?

    Perhaps Madara lied to Obito... but I don't think Itachi would lie about Madara and Izuna.
     
         

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    Re: Pretty Much Safe To Say That Madara...

    It could be possible. But I think that Izuna gave them to him, and maybe the reason that Madara went evil, because he felt as if Izuna sacrificed his eyes in vein and got sad.
     
         

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    Re: Pretty Much Safe To Say That Madara...

    Dude, you can't rationalize on this matter. Nor can you tell who is more trustworthy. Itachi wanted to paint a hateful image of Madara. And he wanted Madara to be his idol. That is why he said, Madara stole his younger brothers eyes. Just like Itachi would steal Sasukes eyes. So it was just to make Sasuke dislike / distrust Madara, if he ever met him.

    So no it's not safe to say till the manga shows, what really happened.

    Also you say that Obito has lied a lot, well wake up bro, Itachi lied the most in the entire manga, though for different purposes. Everything he said till he was revived in edo tensei, can't be trusted...

    And even in edo tensei form, he was still abiding by the will of KA to protect Konoha..

    Itachi only knew, what the Uchiha clan said about Madara, when he left the village. This is what Obito corrected, since the other uchihas were mad at him, since he wanted to leave the village, they twisted the story. So Itachi would only know this rumor, which Obito put doubt upon.
     
         
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