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      Tobi was never meant to Obito

      Yeah i know this thread should be outdated but by re-reading some mangapages, i found this one and i still find it hard to believe it's Obito who was talking here



      Like really? Kishi changed Tobi's identity at the last minute. I'm sure of it
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      yea nowadays it seems as though kishi is just pulling random shit out of his ass as he goes along, the way Obito survived wasn't even properly explained...
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      I think you're right, might have been a last minute change
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      yeah some things don't match...even his reason for doing all this isn't good enough..
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      Tobi was Obito all along.
      1)Tobi and Kakashi shared the same mongekyo sharingan in that same time in the manga you're showing.
      2) When Tobi was facing Team Kakashi and team Kurenai, He specifically revealed his sharingan to kakashi and addressed him directly.
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      You see Kishi meant the series to end with the Pain arc, that is why Obito was with Minato and Rin when Kakashi saw them in the afterlife, but Kishi decided to continue the story.
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      WRONG! He was always Obito, we were too naive or too over confident in him not being Obito. And for the most part he was Madara, he played that role perfectly, he needed Madara's name to do the things he did.

      I hated it at first too, but then I saw the genius of it all through the flash backs and couldn't help but wonder how I never expected this.


      Tobi and Kakashi had very similar Mangekyou powers too. That part was a dead give away.
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      His reasons for doing EVERYTHING he did... Are laughable at best.
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      Why did Kakashi saw Obito with Rin and Minato in the afterlife? coz he was originally intended to have died
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      You guys were probably expecting too much. I think it was always meant to be Obito, we had some obvious hints like the names being a rearrangement of the letters his space time technique being just like kakashi's, the most obvious hint for me was when we saw Tobi putting his right arm back on after the fight with Danzo and the back of his head looked like Obito, i'm not sure where I can find that page.

      I didn't think it was Obito until it was getting really obvious before the mask broke and just ignored all the theories of who it may have been
       
           
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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      Quote Originally Posted by Derp Obito View Post
      You see Kishi meant the series to end with the Pain arc, that is why Obito was with Minato and Rin when Kakashi saw them in the afterlife, but Kishi decided to continue the story.
      Now that i think about it, it's true that it was weird that we saw Obito in Kakashi's mind when he was about to die
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      Quote Originally Posted by Derp Obito View Post
      You see Kishi meant the series to end with the Pain arc, that is why Obito was with Minato and Rin when Kakashi saw them in the afterlife, but Kishi decided to continue the story.
      If he meant to end the series with the pain arc
      1) Why did Nagato foreshadow the war?
      2) Sasuke was in the middle of his quest to destroy Konoha. What would have happened with that?
      3) Why would it end with Naruto getting the mission to end hatred but without doing anything?
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      Quote Originally Posted by Midday View Post
      I think it was always meant to be Obito, we had some obvious hints like the names being a rearrangement of the letters his space time technique being just like kakashi's, the most obvious hint for me was when we saw Tobi putting his right arm back on after the fight with Danzo and the back of his head looked like Obito, i'm not sure where I can find that page.
      that was done after the pain arc which is obviously a later addition by Kishi
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      He was always Obito.
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      Quote Originally Posted by Derp Obito View Post
      that was done after the pain arc which is obviously a later addition by Kishi
      His Kaumi also should have been aap dead giveaway.
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

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      He was always Obito.
      nope, Obito was meant to be dead, it was a last minute decision
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      True talk the reason for being a villian is not enough and he barely grief for rin........ Kid obito was very similar to naruto.
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      Yeah I believe he only decided on Obito when Kabuto came with 6th casket, still wish he went with Izuna I wouldn't have lost any respect for Tobi if he had, ohh well Obitos still decent
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      Did anyone see my post? Kakashi and Tobi always shared the same mongekyo sharingan design!
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      Quote Originally Posted by Midday View Post
      You guys were probably expecting too much. I think it was always meant to be Obito, we had some obvious hints like the names being a rearrangement of the letters his space time technique being just like kakashi's, the most obvious hint for me was when we saw Tobi putting his right arm back on after the fight with Danzo and the back of his head looked like Obito, i'm not sure where I can find that page.
      Hum what you say here is interesting, what i'm complaining with is Obito's personality

      I didn't think it was Obito until it was getting really obvious before the mask broke and just ignored all the theories of who it may have been
      It's what i'm saying. It's at the last minute that kishi tried to create hints about the Tobito theory
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      Quote Originally Posted by Midday View Post
      You guys were probably expecting too much. I think it was always meant to be Obito, we had some obvious hints like the names being a rearrangement of the letters his space time technique being just like kakashi's, the most obvious hint for me was when we saw Tobi putting his right arm back on after the fight with Danzo and the back of his head looked like Obito, i'm not sure where I can find that page.

      I didn't think it was Obito until it was getting really obvious before the mask broke and just ignored all the theories of who it may have been
      his arm fell off in the five kage summit arc, that was post pain arc therefore a late addition
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      well as always people moan about the reasons but then i ask .. who or how would you have done it? either that can't answer or they end up proving their just ticked off cos things didn't happen the way they wanted it.

      I'm happy it was Obito - someone we knew instead of some unknown lesser person with zero connection to the history of naruto. (Naruto series not actually naruto himself)
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
      Yeah i know this thread should be outdated but by re-reading some mangapages, i found this one and i still find it hard to believe it's Obito who was talking here



      Like really? Kishi changed Tobi's identity at the last minute. I'm sure of it
      Lets see... at that point in time,
      1) Obito had MS
      2) He had a zetsu body that made him wayyy stronger.
      3) He had hashirama's DNA
      4) I am sure that current Obito is weaker than he was back then since he doesnt use the zetsu body anymore
      5) I really wanted it to be Izuna.That would have made more sense.
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
      Yeah i know this thread should be outdated but by re-reading some mangapages, i found this one and i still find it hard to believe it's Obito who was talking here



      Like really? Kishi changed Tobi's identity at the last minute. I'm sure of it
      Lets see... at that point in time,
      1) Obito had MS
      2) He had a zetsu body that made him wayyy stronger.
      3) He had hashirama's DNA
      4) I am sure that current Obito is weaker than he was back then since he doesnt use the zetsu body anymore
      5) I really wanted it to be Izuna.That would have made more sense.
       
           

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      Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

      Quote Originally Posted by Cqwnt View Post
      Yeah I believe he only decided on Obito when Kabuto came with 6th casket, still wish he went with Izuna I wouldn't have lost any respect for Tobi if he had, ohh well Obitos still decent
      If Tobi lead Akatsuki then why did he only joined later
       
           

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