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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Na i just think he was pulling off a smug attitude like madara would, even tho he didn't state he was Madara to Minato he still planned to act like it.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by AWSUM SID View Post
    Lets see... at that point in time,
    1) Obito had MS
    2) He had a zetsu body that made him wayyy stronger.
    3) He had hashirama's DNA
    4) I am sure that current Obito is weaker than he was back then since he doesnt use the zetsu body anymore
    5) I really wanted it to be Izuna.That would have made more sense.
    It may have been orig. intended to be izuna but changed in last minute, like starkiller was changed to surname skywalker in the last minute
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Wait, are we STILL fighting about who Obito was supposed to be?
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by NArutouzzi View Post
    Na i just think he was pulling off a smug attitude like madara would, even tho he didn't state he was Madara to Minato he still planned to act like it.
    Could be Izuna originally, and Obito changed afterwards
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by CurseSealofEarth View Post
    Wait, are we STILL fighting about who Obito was supposed to be?
    lol no, only if obito was originally intended to be tobi
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by AWSUM SID View Post
    Lets see... at that point in time,
    1) Obito had MS
    2) He had a zetsu body that made him wayyy stronger.
    3) He had hashirama's DNA
    4) I am sure that current Obito is weaker than he was back then since he doesnt use the zetsu body anymore
    5) I really wanted it to be Izuna.That would have made more sense.
    I don't understand why you believe he is weaker without Zetsu's body. The only advantage his Zetsu body gave him was his protection, but current Obito has Rinnengan now which automatically makes him stronger
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    agreed, the plot holes are so big you could drive the juubi through them
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Midday View Post
    You guys were probably expecting too much. I think it was always meant to be Obito, we had some obvious hints like the names being a rearrangement of the letters his space time technique being just like kakashi's, the most obvious hint for me was when we saw Tobi putting his right arm back on after the fight with Danzo and the back of his head looked like Obito, i'm not sure where I can find that page.
    Yeah, this page was a dead give away.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito




    [IMG]http://www.*****************/images/smilies/series2/kruemelmonster.gif[/IMG]

    anyway someone made a huge thread compiling all the hints that were there for tobi=obito

    http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=235284
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    The truth is this, Japan loves romance-centric plot so Kishi had a last minute decision to make tobi obito because it would have given more dramatic impact if he turned bad because Rin died.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Derp Obito View Post
    You see Kishi meant the series to end with the Pain arc, that is why Obito was with Minato and Rin when Kakashi saw them in the afterlife, but Kishi decided to continue the story.
    I´m pretty sure he never intended to end it with the Pain Invasion. Before the Pain Invasion we see Tobi at that time wearing a cloak while talking to both Pain and Konan, which would be a rather idiotic way to end the Tobi character. Sasuke was also on his way to Konoha during the invasion, which is just pointing straight out that the Pain arc was never intended to be the last one.

    On topic, I really never liked the idea of Obito being Tobi, and I think Kishi was not certain who the masked man was going to be in the end. I honestly think he lacks the skills of a writer.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Seriously, I'm tired of saying this. Since Tobi attacked Konoha we saw his mongekyo sharingan which was the same as kakashi's which we saw before. This is absolute proof that Tobi was always meant to be Obito.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by lol99 View Post



    [IMG]http://www.*****************/images/smilies/series2/kruemelmonster.gif[/IMG]

    anyway someone made a huge thread compiling all the hints that were there for tobi=obito

    http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=235284
    Yeah i know the thread. I even commented there It's just that i still find it hard to believe when i see some of his statements :D
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by lorditachi View Post
    Seriously, I'm tired of saying this. Since Tobi attacked Konoha we saw his mongekyo sharingan which was the same as kakashi's which we saw before. This is absolute proof that Tobi was always meant to be Obito.
    When did we see Tobi's MS during Konoha's attack?
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by lorditachi View Post
    Seriously, I'm tired of saying this. Since Tobi attacked Konoha we saw his mongekyo sharingan which was the same as kakashi's which we saw before. This is absolute proof that Tobi was always meant to be Obito.
    not hard to collect the eyes of dead uchihas and use them for urself
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Derp Obito View Post
    The truth is this, Japan loves romance-centric plot so Kishi had a last minute decision to make tobi obito because it would have given more dramatic impact if he turned bad because Rin died.
    I quote this for truth
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    When did we see Tobi's MS during Konoha's attack?
    He used it to control Kurama
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by lorditachi View Post
    He used it to control Kurama
    Yeah i know but it didn't look like Kakashi's Ms at all
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    yeah how in the hell there is a thomb for a no skeleton inside lol
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Just admit Obito wasnt always intended to be Tobi, you have too much faith on Kishi's writing skills
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Derp Obito View Post
    Why did Kakashi saw Obito with Rin and Minato in the afterlife? coz he was originally intended to have died
    Manga scans? Cause only person I remember kakash seeing in after life is his father.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster View Post
    No, that was his 3-tomoe Sharingan.



    His MS was never shown during the Konoha incident.
    Thanks for the link. It's exactly what i was checking, but i wonder what is the sharingan we see at the bottom of the panel. It looks different than the 3 tomoe
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Oh okay he envisioned them not actually saw them.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster View Post
    That's the Kyuubi's eye as he's being brainwashed. Dunno why it looks so freaky though.
    Or maybe it is how Kishi intended to represent Tobi's MS before changing his mind
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by oShux View Post
    yea nowadays it seems as though kishi is just pulling random shit out of his ass as he goes along, the way Obito survived wasn't even properly explained...
    It seems kind of random how Obito fell right into Madara's cave thingy. And how he survived having half of his head crushed.
     
         

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