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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    at first he was simply acting as madara thats why it wasnt obvious it was obito.Besides kishi had already planned everything in naruto from the very beginning.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    Yeah i know this thread should be outdated but by re-reading some mangapages, i found this one and i still find it hard to believe it's Obito who was talking here



    Like really? :sy: Kishi changed Tobi's identity at the last minute. I'm sure of it
    what about that shows that he wasn obito? remember when he was his sensei, he was not hokage. but when he fought him years later, he was hokage. He was just saying, yeah deserve that title Nothing more.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by The God of Wind View Post
    WRONG! He was always Obito, we were too naive or too over confident in him not being Obito. And for the most part he was Madara, he played that role perfectly, he needed Madara's name to do the things he did.

    I hated it at first too, but then I saw the genius of it all through the flash backs and couldn't help but wonder how I never expected this.


    Tobi and Kakashi had very similar Mangekyou powers too. That part was a dead give away.
    This^
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Tobi was always meant to be obito, if he wasn't I wouldn't have been able to make all those links and connections I did about tobi being obito.

    I'm using my phone right now so I can't so anyway.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Though I feel the same way about not being to link Obito and Tobi as the same person, I disagree about Kishi deciding on Tobi's identity at the last second.

    1. We never really saw Obito dying. His last scene had the rocks falling upon him, that was it. Another thing that makes Obito's death a lot different from every other character is that he died with regret, with no closure or anything. The only thing that should've been explained better was how the hell he could survive something like that, but it might be revealed in the future.
    2. Kakashi and Obito's Kamui are similar, the pattern of the spirals are pretty much identical.
    3. tobitobitobitobitobitobi
    4. Kishi loves the dramatic concept of friend versus friend. Haven't you noticed that each generation now has a hero and a villain that knew each other? Hashirama and Madara, Hiruzen and Danzo (debatable), Jiraiya and Orochimaru, Kakashi and Obito, Naruto and Sasuke. The latter three follows the pattern of the good guy and the bad guy being good friends.
    5. Kakashi's past and what happened to Rin have been a mystery for ages. If Obito being Tobi was a last minute call, then it wouldn't make sense for Kishi to keep that a secret for so long, or even start a mystery about it.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Tobi has always being OBITO 4rm the start
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    no i am sure that tobi was obito
    1.kakashi has shringan in left eye ,tobi has sharingan in right eye
    2.both of them have a similar power which depend on other dimension and space time
    3.tobi always Praises kakashi's sharingan
    4.when kakashi try to use kamui on tobi after the fight between sasuke and danzu tobi said don't try kakashi that jutsu don't affect me
    because tobi know that they have the same dimension
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    he was always meant to be obito
    i think this page foreshadows it and it's only chapter 16
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Derp Obito View Post
    You see Kishi meant the series to end with the Pain arc, that is why Obito was with Minato and Rin when Kakashi saw them in the afterlife, but Kishi decided to continue the story.
    I thought those were just his projections of them.....Like how he was looking at himself in the reflection of the water.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    Yeah i know this thread should be outdated but by re-reading some mangapages, i found this one and i still find it hard to believe it's Obito who was talking here



    Like really? :sy: Kishi changed Tobi's identity at the last minute. I'm sure of it
    here tobi was a combo of obito and the zetsu he fused with hence the times where he act all childish and craz that was the zetsu so maybe at times obito wanted to rest he let tobi take over
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by rollin View Post
    he was always meant to be obito
    i think this page foreshadows it and it's only chapter 16
    How does that foreshadow it?
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by The God of Wind View Post
    How does that foreshadow it?
    sakura asked who the masked kid was then kakashi starts talking about the hidden mist body erasers
    it already has the reason why obito went evil cause kakashi is explaining that body erasers go after the village's secrets
    and that's probably why he killed rin
    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/605/11
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by rollin View Post
    sakura asked who the masked kid was then kakashi starts talking about the hidden mist body erasers
    it already has the reason why obito went evil cause kakashi is explaining that body erasers go after the village's secrets
    and that's probably why he killed rin
    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/605/11
    Oh I see! You should make a thread with that page pronto! Use the same reason or the reason why Rin was killed, it really shows Kishimoto's master craftsmanship and genius. DO IT!
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    When Kakashi used kamui in deidara's arm, how do you guys think he got it back?...Tobi coincidentally appeared in the Akatsuki at the same time. Why do you think Kishi made the Kakashi Gaiden? Why you think Obito had more development and panel time than Izuna and Kagami? He was meant to be Obito from the start.

    And adressing the whole "kakashi saw Obito in the aftrerlife" nonsense, that was only anime, never appeared in the manga....non-canon.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by lorditachi View Post
    Tobi was Obito all along.
    1)Tobi and Kakashi shared the same mongekyo sharingan in that same time in the manga you're showing.
    2) When Tobi was facing Team Kakashi and team Kurenai, He specifically revealed his sharingan to kakashi and addressed him directly.
    this but kishi is still pulling craps out of his ass.
    hes not even trying anymore or he just lacks the ability to tell a good story properly.

    i swear some of the fan-fics are even written much better.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    the proof that you have given is the most frustrating part of tobi being obito.
    when tobi was revealed to be obito that is the immediate thing that came to my mind.
    i mean that little punk geek obito telling minato that he deserves the title of fourth hokage, i mean who the Fvck is he to even judge minato.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by The God of Wind View Post
    WRONG! He was always Obito, we were too naive or too over confident in him not being Obito. And for the most part he was Madara, he played that role perfectly, he needed Madara's name to do the things he did.

    I hated it at first too, but then I saw the genius of it all through the flash backs and couldn't help but wonder how I never expected this.


    Tobi and Kakashi had very similar Mangekyou powers too. That part was a dead give away.
    Agree'd
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    the ramen guy would've been a better choice ...... talk about shcoking ....

    but i agree it had to be a last minute change believe it !
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    He kept his options open I feel. There are a few characters that can also fit to be Tobi. In the end I guess he decided to make him Obito.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    It was destiny.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    It was always meant to be Obito, I mean the similar Mangekyou abilities was like a dead giveaway.. but I don't think Kishi made it a last minute decision at all.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito



    So much troll logic on this thread. Your argument is that Obito was pretending to be Madara, therefore he's not Obito. Are you people retarded?
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    I agree. Either that or i overestimated him
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster View Post
    Yup.

    Either Kishimoto is a shit writer who doesn't even know his own characters or he just changed it at the last minute. I'm gonna be generous and assume it was the latter.
    So why did you start reading the manga if he is such a shit writer? Why are you continuing to read it if he is such a shit writer? Please think before you post, LOL!
    I've always said Tobi was Obito from the moment we saw his Sharingan. Up to that point there were only two Uchiha: Sasuke and Itachi and the only other sharingan user to be featured in the manga was indeed Obito. The Kakashi Gaiden was a dead giveaway and the fact that Tobi had only one sharingan in his right eye proves that the story was meant to take this turn. If you guys think that he just up and changed his mind at the last minute then you have no sense of how a writer operates and you need to silence your criticism or simply stop reading his work, but you won't because it's epic as ****.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by derp obito View Post
    nope, obito was meant to be dead, it was a last minute decision
    wrong again!
     
         

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