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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Derp Obito View Post
    The truth is this, Japan loves romance-centric plot so Kishi had a last minute decision to make tobi obito because it would have given more dramatic impact if he turned bad because Rin died.
    I quote this for truth
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    When did we see Tobi's MS during Konoha's attack?
    He used it to control Kurama
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

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    He used it to control Kurama
    Yeah i know but it didn't look like Kakashi's Ms at all
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    yeah how in the hell there is a thomb for a no skeleton inside lol
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Just admit Obito wasnt always intended to be Tobi, you have too much faith on Kishi's writing skills
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Derp Obito View Post
    Why did Kakashi saw Obito with Rin and Minato in the afterlife? coz he was originally intended to have died
    Manga scans? Cause only person I remember kakash seeing in after life is his father.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster View Post
    No, that was his 3-tomoe Sharingan.



    His MS was never shown during the Konoha incident.
    Thanks for the link. It's exactly what i was checking, but i wonder what is the sharingan we see at the bottom of the panel. It looks different than the 3 tomoe
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Oh okay he envisioned them not actually saw them.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster View Post
    That's the Kyuubi's eye as he's being brainwashed. Dunno why it looks so freaky though.
    Or maybe it is how Kishi intended to represent Tobi's MS before changing his mind
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by oShux View Post
    yea nowadays it seems as though kishi is just pulling random shit out of his ass as he goes along, the way Obito survived wasn't even properly explained...
    It seems kind of random how Obito fell right into Madara's cave thingy. And how he survived having half of his head crushed.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    at first he was simply acting as madara thats why it wasnt obvious it was obito.Besides kishi had already planned everything in naruto from the very beginning.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    Yeah i know this thread should be outdated but by re-reading some mangapages, i found this one and i still find it hard to believe it's Obito who was talking here



    Like really? :sy: Kishi changed Tobi's identity at the last minute. I'm sure of it
    what about that shows that he wasn obito? remember when he was his sensei, he was not hokage. but when he fought him years later, he was hokage. He was just saying, yeah deserve that title Nothing more.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by The God of Wind View Post
    WRONG! He was always Obito, we were too naive or too over confident in him not being Obito. And for the most part he was Madara, he played that role perfectly, he needed Madara's name to do the things he did.

    I hated it at first too, but then I saw the genius of it all through the flash backs and couldn't help but wonder how I never expected this.


    Tobi and Kakashi had very similar Mangekyou powers too. That part was a dead give away.
    This^
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Tobi was always meant to be obito, if he wasn't I wouldn't have been able to make all those links and connections I did about tobi being obito.

    I'm using my phone right now so I can't so anyway.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Though I feel the same way about not being to link Obito and Tobi as the same person, I disagree about Kishi deciding on Tobi's identity at the last second.

    1. We never really saw Obito dying. His last scene had the rocks falling upon him, that was it. Another thing that makes Obito's death a lot different from every other character is that he died with regret, with no closure or anything. The only thing that should've been explained better was how the hell he could survive something like that, but it might be revealed in the future.
    2. Kakashi and Obito's Kamui are similar, the pattern of the spirals are pretty much identical.
    3. tobitobitobitobitobitobi
    4. Kishi loves the dramatic concept of friend versus friend. Haven't you noticed that each generation now has a hero and a villain that knew each other? Hashirama and Madara, Hiruzen and Danzo (debatable), Jiraiya and Orochimaru, Kakashi and Obito, Naruto and Sasuke. The latter three follows the pattern of the good guy and the bad guy being good friends.
    5. Kakashi's past and what happened to Rin have been a mystery for ages. If Obito being Tobi was a last minute call, then it wouldn't make sense for Kishi to keep that a secret for so long, or even start a mystery about it.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Tobi has always being OBITO 4rm the start
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    no i am sure that tobi was obito
    1.kakashi has shringan in left eye ,tobi has sharingan in right eye
    2.both of them have a similar power which depend on other dimension and space time
    3.tobi always Praises kakashi's sharingan
    4.when kakashi try to use kamui on tobi after the fight between sasuke and danzu tobi said don't try kakashi that jutsu don't affect me
    because tobi know that they have the same dimension
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    he was always meant to be obito
    i think this page foreshadows it and it's only chapter 16
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Derp Obito View Post
    You see Kishi meant the series to end with the Pain arc, that is why Obito was with Minato and Rin when Kakashi saw them in the afterlife, but Kishi decided to continue the story.
    I thought those were just his projections of them.....Like how he was looking at himself in the reflection of the water.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    Yeah i know this thread should be outdated but by re-reading some mangapages, i found this one and i still find it hard to believe it's Obito who was talking here



    Like really? :sy: Kishi changed Tobi's identity at the last minute. I'm sure of it
    here tobi was a combo of obito and the zetsu he fused with hence the times where he act all childish and craz that was the zetsu so maybe at times obito wanted to rest he let tobi take over
     
         

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