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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by rollin View Post
    he was always meant to be obito
    i think this page foreshadows it and it's only chapter 16
    How does that foreshadow it?
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by The God of Wind View Post
    How does that foreshadow it?
    sakura asked who the masked kid was then kakashi starts talking about the hidden mist body erasers
    it already has the reason why obito went evil cause kakashi is explaining that body erasers go after the village's secrets
    and that's probably why he killed rin
    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/605/11
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by rollin View Post
    sakura asked who the masked kid was then kakashi starts talking about the hidden mist body erasers
    it already has the reason why obito went evil cause kakashi is explaining that body erasers go after the village's secrets
    and that's probably why he killed rin
    http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/605/11
    Oh I see! You should make a thread with that page pronto! Use the same reason or the reason why Rin was killed, it really shows Kishimoto's master craftsmanship and genius. DO IT!
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    When Kakashi used kamui in deidara's arm, how do you guys think he got it back?...Tobi coincidentally appeared in the Akatsuki at the same time. Why do you think Kishi made the Kakashi Gaiden? Why you think Obito had more development and panel time than Izuna and Kagami? He was meant to be Obito from the start.

    And adressing the whole "kakashi saw Obito in the aftrerlife" nonsense, that was only anime, never appeared in the manga....non-canon.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by lorditachi View Post
    Tobi was Obito all along.
    1)Tobi and Kakashi shared the same mongekyo sharingan in that same time in the manga you're showing.
    2) When Tobi was facing Team Kakashi and team Kurenai, He specifically revealed his sharingan to kakashi and addressed him directly.
    this but kishi is still pulling craps out of his ass.
    hes not even trying anymore or he just lacks the ability to tell a good story properly.

    i swear some of the fan-fics are even written much better.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    the proof that you have given is the most frustrating part of tobi being obito.
    when tobi was revealed to be obito that is the immediate thing that came to my mind.
    i mean that little punk geek obito telling minato that he deserves the title of fourth hokage, i mean who the Fvck is he to even judge minato.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by The God of Wind View Post
    WRONG! He was always Obito, we were too naive or too over confident in him not being Obito. And for the most part he was Madara, he played that role perfectly, he needed Madara's name to do the things he did.

    I hated it at first too, but then I saw the genius of it all through the flash backs and couldn't help but wonder how I never expected this.


    Tobi and Kakashi had very similar Mangekyou powers too. That part was a dead give away.
    Agree'd
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    the ramen guy would've been a better choice ...... talk about shcoking ....

    but i agree it had to be a last minute change believe it !
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    He kept his options open I feel. There are a few characters that can also fit to be Tobi. In the end I guess he decided to make him Obito.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    It was destiny.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    It was always meant to be Obito, I mean the similar Mangekyou abilities was like a dead giveaway.. but I don't think Kishi made it a last minute decision at all.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito



    So much troll logic on this thread. Your argument is that Obito was pretending to be Madara, therefore he's not Obito. Are you people retarded?
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    I agree. Either that or i overestimated him
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster View Post
    Yup.

    Either Kishimoto is a shit writer who doesn't even know his own characters or he just changed it at the last minute. I'm gonna be generous and assume it was the latter.
    So why did you start reading the manga if he is such a shit writer? Why are you continuing to read it if he is such a shit writer? Please think before you post, LOL!
    I've always said Tobi was Obito from the moment we saw his Sharingan. Up to that point there were only two Uchiha: Sasuke and Itachi and the only other sharingan user to be featured in the manga was indeed Obito. The Kakashi Gaiden was a dead giveaway and the fact that Tobi had only one sharingan in his right eye proves that the story was meant to take this turn. If you guys think that he just up and changed his mind at the last minute then you have no sense of how a writer operates and you need to silence your criticism or simply stop reading his work, but you won't because it's epic as ****.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by derp obito View Post
    nope, obito was meant to be dead, it was a last minute decision
    wrong again!
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Tobi turning out to be Obito really changed my outlook on the manga. It lost something special when that reveal happened.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    The fact that obito survive beig crush before he even had the ms is bs.
    The fact that he was shocked by minato ability let's you know tobi was never intended to be obito.
    The fact that the last time he seen minato, minato had pretty much won the war by his self n obito thought he was a match for him let's you know tobi wasnt meant to be obito.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by sage22 View Post
    The fact that obito survive beig crush before he even had the ms is bs.
    The fact that he was shocked by minato ability let's you know tobi was never intended to be obito.
    The fact that the last time he seen minato, minato had pretty much won the war by his self n obito thought he was a match for him let's you know tobi wasnt meant to be obito.
    yes he was all of naruto is showing teachers fighting theyre students. everyone thought it was gonna be obito like 2 years ago. the spelling in his name was a give away. it was always meant to be obito he thats why it showed kakashi at the grave so much and it showed kakashi's gaiden. to show you who obito was. every character in naruto except for the sage and izun uchiha has been shown once theyre names were brought up. when they show lees background when his ass is beat by garra ten ten brings up she wisht to be like tsunade. then bam couple of episodes down the line after the third dies who does naruto and jiriya go find? tsunade. my point every character in naruto is meant to have a real impact not just be there for back stories. madara was mentioned at the beginng whos the main bad guy behind it all. oh madara. the only person tobi could be is obito was he suppose to make up another character out his ass? no! he was the only uchiha in the story missing.theres not one other person in naruto besides izun it could have been and danzo had a sharigan in the same side of as tobi so that couldnt be and he was a good guy. he perfectly made it fit and it couldnt have been a random guy that would make the story suck it. it had to be obito. naruto its is sololy based on two friends one who choose the good light side. one choose bad darkness. they are honestly friends but ciccumstances wont allow it. how are you a fan and not know that. its common knowledge. orchimaru jiriya. like i said teachers fighting students. is it now clicking why it had to be obito and it wouldnt make sense to be anyone else.

    some one doesnt have a long running anime/manga because they make random decisions. its the only plossible fit for the story. thats why in the anime it showed guy and kakashi walking around before the nine tails attack and kakashi is in anbu out fit. all those episodes they purposely drew tobi as a teenager like timeskip-sasuke, timeskip-naruto's age basically maybe a tad older.

    he said last year hes had the manga's end and how it end's figured out just how long they want it to go will depend on how long he cant build the story and that he has tons of directions he can go. he created this world of naruto. yall saying thats a spit in his face. kisimoto is shikamuru, shikamaru's dad sasuke madara obito kakashi all in one. he is wrote a 616 chapter manga!!!
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    i dont get your point... how does this prove tobi wasnt meant to be obito?
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    He talked the same way at the Kage summit
     
         

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